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My girlfriend has an interview date for a tourist visa. She lives in Latin America, is educated, and speaks fluent English. In spite of this, its still quite likely that her tourist visa will be denied.

I'd like to go ahead and start to the K-1 visa process but don't want to interfere with her chances of getting a tourist visa. However, I know we can qualify to the K-1 visa and don't want to waste 5-6 weeks waiting for her B-1 interview only to get it denied. I'd rather just scrap the B-1 process and go straight to K-1.

Anyone have an good links on this subject or experience with this issue?

Thanks,

Mike

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Ecuador is one of the worst countries when it comes to issuing tourist visas (or any visas for that matter). Check out the Guayaquil Consulate thread in the US Embassy and Consulate Discussion forum. It's filled with horror stories.

I hate to tell you that, but it's something you need to prepare yourself for.

If you file an I-129F, your fiance will still have to be in Ecuador for her interview, and usually any B1/B2 visa applications are cancelled. If the consulate officer finds out she's engaged to you prior to her interview for her B1, it's even less likely that she'd be allowed a B1, even if everything else was stacked in her favor.

I'm really sorry to have to tell you that, but it's an extremely difficult country. Talk to TBoneTX for more info. He can give you the scoop. Good luck.

Angela & Peter

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K-1 Process (Condensed)

02/01/10: Took atty's bad advice and applied for B2 visa

02/16/10: B2 Visa Interview: DENIED - K1 Required

05/07/10: Atty sent I-129F Petition to Chicago Lockbox

05/31/10: Atty rec'd Petition back due to wrong location

06/01/10: I-129F pkg sent to VSC

06/11/10: NOA1 Rec'd/Touch

09/17/10: INTERVIEW = APPROVED

10/22/10: Marriage in the US

AOS Process

11/13/10: Mailed Packet to CHI Lockbox

11/18/10: NOA1 Rec'd via Text

11/20/10: Soc. Sec. fixed mistake/Processed SSN

11/23/10: Rec'd SSN

11/23/10: Touch

12/09/10: RFE - Supposedly didn't sign I-864 when I KNOW I did. (Copies to prove it.)

12/20/10: Biometrics Appt

12/20/10: RFE Response Rec'd/Processing Resumed

12/27/10: Transferred to CSC

12/29/10: Contacted Senator re: EAD Expedite Request

12/30/10: AOS Touch

12/30/10: EAD & AP Approved (Card Production Ordered)

01/05/11: AOS Touch (Rec'd @ CSC)

01/06/11: AOS Touch/EAD Mailed

01/08/11: EAD & AP Rec'd

01/10/11: AOS Touch

01/14/11: EAD Touch

01/26/11: AOS APPROVED!!

02/02/11: Green Card Received

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My girlfriend has an interview date for a tourist visa. She lives in Latin America, is educated, and speaks fluent English. In spite of this, its still quite likely that her tourist visa will be denied.

I'd like to go ahead and start to the K-1 visa process but don't want to interfere with her chances of getting a tourist visa. However, I know we can qualify to the K-1 visa and don't want to waste 5-6 weeks waiting for her B-1 interview only to get it denied. I'd rather just scrap the B-1 process and go straight to K-1.

Anyone have an good links on this subject or experience with this issue?

Thanks,

Mike

I will not directly answer the B1/B2 question because I do not want to give any false information, but I do believe that a call to the Quito Consulate (not Guayaquil...they charge) will likely provide you any details on the legality. With that being said, getting a B1/B2 visa if you are from Ecuador is not easy, but I do have many Ecuadorian friends that have done it. I do not think that it is extremely different though from many countries that are in a similar economic situation. It really settles down to whether you can prove that you have a lot of ties to Ecuador. Having a good education and speaking English alone will not be enough...in fact a some of my Ecuadorian friends with tourist visas do not even speak English. What is important are things like her job (aka salary), whether she owns a car, has a house, has family (aka kids that she would not want to abandon), etc. I had a friend who was about 45 who had three kids, a very nice house, a couple of cars AND was invited by the U of Utah and was still denied, but was later approved when he reapplied, so often times you have to go back a couple of times. Regrettably, the fact that she is thinking about moving permanently with a K1 probably is an indication that she will get denied.

Personally, I do not know why you wouldn't just start the K1 visa and forget about a B1/B2. Sure, she might be able to spend a couple of weeks with you as a tourist on the off chance that she is given a visa, but it is not permanent...unless you are thinking about getting married and adjusting her status in the US. I will caution you that this would constitute visa fraud. People do get away with it but there are numerous risks, like very very long bans.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Personally, I do not know why you wouldn't just start the K1 visa and forget about a B1/B2.
Si, man, along with everything else that Indy90 has said. Before you even consider petitioning for the K-1, read the Embassy Reviews (see link atop this page) and the Embassy Info (atop this page) for Ecuador, and read the entire "US Consulate in Guayaquil, Ecuador" thread in the Embassy/Consulate forum. Pay particular attention to the worst experiences, and to the guidance of everyone before you who learned the hard way.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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