gang rape in pakistan

[evli1966 88]

You don't think that it's odd to ignore the biggest news story in Pakistan in order to focus on this one? It goes back to what I said before - that JAS is pushing an agenda of prejudice.

You might as well ask why anyone is spending money on anything when there are more desperate causes that need it.

BTW mad

Thanks for not bashing on me for the show.

He kind of reminds me of you

His statement

"I am right they are wrong, thats the end of the story"

Just kiddign you.

That could be asked about any church, mosque or synagogue building project. Money is always needed somewhere else, and always will be.

I agree

[Sofiyya 1,687]

The one above I agree media may not provide the full picture

Show me when an Islamic extremist and/or terrorist organization was denounced ejected arressted punished etc by islam leaders.

Show me Islam leader refusing to give money to these organizations

show me Islam leader not taking money from these leaders

show me what is the Islamic law of against an act of terror in the name of "Jihad" against another country even if the rest of Islam is not at war with the country.

Why don't you ask why this information is so hard to find instead of assuming it doesn't happen? Why don't you ask why the censorship against positive news about Muslims, and, when something good does peek through, it's denounced on the right as leftist appeasement of the Muslim world?

[Fandango 1,440]

Despite that, there is a balance in the news that didn't allow for only the anti-Catholic pov. There is none of that when it comes to Muslims.

And there will alwats be people who appease them. You can avoid being one of them by giving motives more thought.

Why are you trying to micromanage dissent against prejudicial posting?

I am not an appeaser of racists, and I think you need to take that back immediately.

This is why OT is being ruined with the 'oh it's so racist' in there schpiel. The OP posted an article, didn't say anything racist, yet here we are, page two of a whole diatribe about his motives for posting it, whether he has any relatives in Pakistan, what this thread will do to further people's understanding of Islam, etc. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Now we've moved onto the lack of positive Muslim articles in the press. Guess what? I'm not a journalist You don't like the lack of balance...CREATE SOME. It is not my dog to fight, nor is it relevant to these poor girls getting raped.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I am not an appeaser of racists, and I think you need to take that back immediately.

This is why OT is being ruined with the 'oh it's so racist' in there schpiel. The OP posted an article, didn't say anything racist, yet here we are, page two of a whole diatribe about his motives for posting it, whether he has any relatives in Pakistan, what this thread will do to further people's understanding of Islam, etc. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Now we've moved onto the lack of positive Muslim articles in the press. Guess what? I'm not a journalist You don't like the lack of balance...CREATE SOME. It is not my dog to fight, nor is it relevant to these poor girls getting raped.

Bottom line, you are being willfully obtuse. Lisa. You're right, bigoted reporting is not your problem; if you don't give it much thought, so what? No skin off your teeth. Gotcha.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Lisa, the OP didn't say anything racist in the thread title - but it is clear, if you follow his posting history, that he has a very definite agenda where muslims and Islam are concerned. That agenda is not to promote understanding or have a reasoned debate about the nature of these things.

You might not be aware of that, but a lot of us are.

Once again, I don't see what's so outrageous in asking people what exactly they take from a story like this. What did you take from it?

Edited August 22, 2010 by Its a MADHOUSE

[Fandango 1,440]

Bottom line, you are being willfully obtuse. Lisa. You're right, bigoted reporting is not your problem; if you don't give it much thought, so what? No skin off your teeth. Gotcha.

Le sigh. Whatever.

[evli1966 88]

Why don't you ask why this information is so hard to find instead of assuming it doesn't happen? Why don't you ask why the censorship against positive news about Muslims, and, when something good does peek through, it's denounced on the right as leftist appeasement of the Muslim world?

Actually why is it so hard to find?

Again Mad nor you show posts were Muslims leaders reject or eject the extremists or punish them for killing innocent people. which countries still allow money to be sent to these extremists these are valid questions.

I have not seen censorship against positive news on Muslim

Show me were something good that is happening that is protrayed as appeasement of the muslim world?

With all these questions I still do not hold the actions of the extremists and terrorst against those who would speak out openly against them. but for thos ewho blindly ignore or remain quite give excuse to them they are no better.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Reading between the lines and then somehow turning it into something different seems to be all the rage. I dont know the OP personally nor will I judge him based on what he posts and why. Guilty by a certain number of posts on a subject. Is exactly the same judgmental attitude that creates the attitude that all muslims are terrorists.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Reading between the lines and then somehow turning it into something different seems to be all the rage. I dont know the OP personally nor will I judge him based on what he posts and why. Guilty by a certain number of posts on a subject. Is exactly the same judgmental attitude that creates the attitude that all muslims are terrorists.

Guilty by post content and thread choice? Absolutely. Do you really think that that is unreasonable?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Reading between the lines and then somehow turning it into something different seems to be all the rage. I dont know the OP personally nor will I judge him based on what he posts and why. Guilty by a certain number of posts on a subject. Is exactly the same judgmental attitude that creates the attitude that all muslims are terrorists.

Seriously, Marc. I hope you're not sober writing this

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Guilty by post content and thread choice? Absolutely. Do you really think that that is unreasonable?

Totally unreasonable. I have know way of knowing what his intent is for sure and neither do you. What I do have a problem with is the jumping to conclusions.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Totally unreasonable. I have know way of knowing what his intent is for sure and neither do you. What I do have a problem with is the jumping to conclusions.

We infer based on past behaviour.

If someone bangs on over months about how they hate Jews and then posts a series of articles about bad things that Jews have done - what conclusion would you reach?

[evli1966 88]

We infer based on past behaviour.

If someone bangs on over months about how they hate Jews and then posts a series of articles about bad things that Jews have done - what conclusion would you reach?

point taken

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Seriously, Marc. I hope you're not sober writing this

I got one he11 of a coffee buzz goin.

[evli1966 88]

Why would *I* do that

If *you* are genuinely interested in this, wouldn't *you* look for it?

As I said, you can look in the archive if you care to. Or not.

Why don't you ask why this information is so hard to find instead of assuming it doesn't happen? Why don't you ask why the censorship against positive news about Muslims, and, when something good does peek through, it's denounced on the right as leftist appeasement of the Muslim world?

I stand corrected after more targeted searches I did find Islamic leaders speaking out more so.

The controversy is they speak out more as more Muslims are targeted and then refer to any human life including nonmuslim.