A qusestion to men who would pay for sex...

[Marilyn. 340]

I wasn't talking abut vibes ...

I was just trying to be funny but I guess I failed

Edited July 26, 2010 by Marilyn.

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe so, though in a thread such as this, why would one bother?

[slim 1,533]

I guess I used many men for sex just like maven said she did.

So that's OK to do because there was no money involved?

What I'm being told by folks on here is it's wrong for men to use women for sex if they pay them money but it's perfectly acceptable for women to use men for sex as long as no money is exchanged. What's the difference? The exchange of money?

Keep in mind, if you argue that side you've just lost your emotional attachment/respect angle because it becomes a business transaction.

[Amby 490]

So that's OK to do because there was no money involved?

What I'm being told by folks on here is it's wrong for men to use women for sex if they pay them money but it's perfectly acceptable for women to use men for sex as long as no money is exchanged. What's the difference? The exchange of money?

Keep in mind, if you argue that side you've just lost your emotional attachment/respect angle because it becomes a business transaction.

oh I think it's ok for men to pay for sex. just make sure she's clean. maybe double bag it.

[Peikko 1,575]

So that's OK to do because there was no money involved?

What I'm being told by folks on here is it's wrong for men to use women for sex if they pay them money but it's perfectly acceptable for women to use men for sex as long as no money is exchanged. What's the difference? The exchange of money?

Keep in mind, if you argue that side you've just lost your emotional attachment/respect angle because it becomes a business transaction.

That's not what is being said at all. Focus. Amby did not and does not 'use men' for sex - she quite clearly stated that there must be mutually gratifying sex, sex for money and no gratification does not interest her at all.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I think Charles is correct...I've never seen a vibe that didn't take AA batteries

eta: though those look like they may be AAA

Huh, mine takes D batteries.

I don't have a lot of regrets about my sex life. I'm fairly open about it. I was wild in my youth, then settled down at the age of 22 to one guy, who I was with for ten years and faithful for all of them. After we parted, I dated a number of men but didn't have sex (or "full on sex") with any of them until I met the man that I then married. Until we split, I was faithful to him. I like sex a lot, but now I prefer to have it with one partner at a time.

I know that what I did was never selling myself, because I never had any motivation beyond sex (and maybe a little power). I know I could never sell myself now.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So, basically what you're telling me is it's possible to have sex without "forming opinions of an entire gender?" In other words, you can have completely detached, unemotional sex with someone - with or without the exchange of cash - and there's no long term side effects?

That's not what others have said in this thread. According to them, someone who would do that - especially someone who would pay to do that - is despicable.

There's nothing ideological about it. It is a fact. All women can be prostitutes if they desire. That's not an idea... it's because of thier biological make-up.

How are male/female social constructs biological in nature?

[Amby 490]

maven - I think I need to upgrade to something more powerful then

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That is your opinion and we do not need it foisted upon us. And people do not need you or the law to prevent them from degrading themselves. Thanks, but no thanks.

Let women, and men, have freedom of choice.

Hold your horses Gary, you're away with the fairies once again.

Where are you getting this idea that I want prostitution to be illegal? I have never SAID, IMPLIED or SUGGESTED anywhere that this is what I want to happen.

My opinion is and has consistently been that prostitution is unethical and degrading to the parties who take part in it. The guy who admitted to using prostitutes has stated that in his experience many of the women end up "jaded". And we've seen another article about the type of men who go in for it - men who are, on some level, social failures - a lot of whom feel guilty and dirty after the act.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

maven - I think I need to upgrade to something more powerful then

I got mine at Ann Summers before I left the UK. Suggest you do the same. Very discreet and looks nothing like anything anatomical.

[KaiserD 12]

I got mine at Ann Summers before I left the UK. Suggest you do the same. Very discreet and looks nothing like anything anatomical.

I miss that shop! A lot of their lingerie was so cute, I always thought about buying those edible string candy bras but never got around to it

[Gemmie 142]

I've only ever had sex with the one man, but I have friends that like to have sex just for the pleasure and don't expect anything out of it afterwards. Other than one of them contracting a virus and a guilty conscience, it doesn't do any harm when the boundaries are set from the beginning.

You can't really compare that to men wanting to pay women for sex. That implies that she's only doing it for the money, and not interested in the sex itself, which isn't OK in my book.

[justashooter 430]

Is there one man here that wasnt a ####### when they were in their late teens early twenties?

that would be me.

[slim 1,533]

oh I think it's ok for men to pay for sex.

Why do you suppose some folks think it's wrong?

Amby did not and does not 'use men' for sex - she quite clearly stated that there must be mutually gratifying sex, sex for money and no gratification does not interest her at all.

She said she wouldn't pursue more sex from a man who didn't satisfy her. That means she wasn't necessarily in it for mutual gratification.

I never had any motivation beyond sex (and maybe a little power).

But what we're seeing from some posters is impossible to separate sex from any other motivation. There has to be more to it! (That's what they're saying, anyway.)

How are male/female social constructs biological in nature?

Who's talking about social constructs? I'm talking about sexual engagement, nothing more nothing less.

My opinion is and has consistently been that prostitution is unethical and degrading to the parties who take part in it.

Yet you haven't made it clear why that's any different than folks who willingly participate in strictly sexual encounters simply for the pleasure of doing so.

I have friends that like to have sex just for the pleasure and don't expect anything out of it afterwards.

You can't really compare that to men wanting to pay women for sex. That implies that she's only doing it for the money, and not interested in the sex itself, which isn't OK in my book.

You mean you can't compare the women in that situation. If one woman enjoys having sex for free there's no problem, yet for some reason, when a man enjoys having sex - but chooses to pay for it - there is.

Why is that?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Sexual engagement for money and that any woman can be a prostitute. How is that biological?