Catholics angry as church puts female ordination on par with sex abuse

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It was meant to be the document that put a lid on the clerical sex abuse scandals that have swept the Roman Catholic world. But instead of quelling fury from within and without the church, the Vatican stoked the anger of liberal Catholics and women's groups by including a provision in its revised decree that made the "attempted ordination" of women one of the gravest crimes in ecclesiastical law.

The change put the "offence" on a par with the sex abuse of minors.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/15/vatican-declares-womens-ordination-grave-crime

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Nice.

Bunch of geriatric deviants.

[BishopM 114]

...it is interesting. When I was in 'formation' of sorts with a a truly blessed Priest, who was somewhat liberal but entirely holy, he consistently said that it was only tradition which blocked the ordaining of women, nothing Biblical per se. But, truly, within our Catholic Church, tradition is quite strong and if it does ever change it would change slowly, per design and for good reasons as we're not really interested in moving with 'the world'. That is difficult for a lot of people to understand, undestandably....

I'm not sure of the 'gravest of sins' though. That seems harsh.

Blessings.

[Atencio 43]

...it is interesting. When I was in 'formation' of sorts with a a truly blessed Priest, who was somewhat liberal but entirely holy, he consistently said that it was only tradition which blocked the ordaining of women, nothing Biblical per se. But, truly, within our Catholic Church, tradition is quite strong and if it does ever change it would change slowly, per design and for good reasons as we're not really interested in moving with 'the world'. That is difficult for a lot of people to understand, undestandably....

I'm not sure of the 'gravest of sins' though. That seems harsh.

Blessings.

From what I can remember Priests used to be allowed to marry. Back in the middle ages when this tradition started many Priests came from wealthy families. When the Priest died the Church was deemed to be the inheritor. I really disagree with the Church on this aspect. World-wide there is a great shortage of Priests. I can't remember the last time I saw a Priest under 55 that wasn't from one of the poorer countries.

[rlogan 2,036]

Actually, it is quite reasonable from their perspective and you can see why the two go together.

If they let women in, then the women are going to compete for some of the little boys they diddle.

[BishopM 114]

From what I can remember Priests used to be allowed to marry. Back in the middle ages when this tradition started many Priests came from wealthy families. When the Priest died the Church was deemed to be the inheritor. I really disagree with the Church on this aspect. World-wide there is a great shortage of Priests. I can't remember the last time I saw a Priest under 55 that wasn't from one of the poorer countries.

Brother Atencio, you are correct that there is a shortage of vocations, and that most younger Priests are from other countries. Its a nice reciprocity for the activities of the Catholic Church in those countries, and right now this is helping the shortage in the USA.

[BishopM 114]

Actually, it is quite reasonable from their perspective and you can see why the two go together.

If they let women in, then the women are going to compete for some of the little boys they diddle.

Well...perhaps it shouldn't...but, in all honesty, this did make me laff

Blessings to the Church and to the Thread, both need it

[Atencio 43]

Brother Atencio, you are correct that there is a shortage of vocations, and that most younger Priests are from other countries. Its a nice reciprocity for the activities of the Catholic Church in those countries, and right now this is helping the shortage in the USA.

One of the best Priests my church has had lately was a young African. His sermons were always interesting as he would add in situations from his life there.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I can't find any quotations of the actual wording from the Vatican in that article. Does anybody know where it can be found?

Edited July 16, 2010 by El Buscador