Mexicans seething over Border Patrol killing of teen

[HappyKnappy 30]

I'll take a different approach since you at least explain your opinion, which I like.

What do you propose America do to control this illegal alien problem? In particularly with Mexico, since 80% of the illegals are from there.

As posted on the other thread regarding the boy's death:

No - the first step is to enforce employment law to remove the incentive to come, not wait several years while expensive walls are built that cannot be cost-effectively patrolled and maintained (and which create political problems with a country that supplies a lot of the US' manufactured goods).

Sir, you have nailed it. If you stop allowing farmers, contractors, etc. from getting a few extra bucks by hiring illegal aliens, there will be no reason for them to come. End of problem.

Building a wall is counter productive, as it will cost billions in an already pummeled economy, not to mention that illegals always find a way to get in.

Aside from the drug and illegal immigration issue, as MADHOUSE pointed out, the US benefits a lot more from Mexico than viceversa. The NAFTA has allowed the US to enter the Mexican economy with everyday products, franchises, etc. You might as well want to be on their good side. By this I do not mean anything supporting illegal workers, rather asking the feds to enforce the labor laws and avoid all this violence.

Adding to this, 80% come from the south, but not all of them are Mexican. You got a whole bunch of South Americans, including gangs like MS13 coming through Mexico, smuggled Chinese nationals who are brought in by boat loads to Mexico, etc.

[jimnlena 8]

Its a shame Mexican President doesn't spend his efforts creating jobs and helping his people in Mexico. Instead of trying to push them across border.

[Heracles 417]

Adding to this, 80% come from the south, but not all of them are Mexican. You got a whole bunch of South Americans, including gangs like MS13 coming through Mexico, smuggled Chinese nationals who are brought in by boat loads to Mexico, etc.

Thanks for illustrating why America needs a huge wall along the entire border. An Israeli style wall that you cannot even see past.

[Captain Oates 911]

They should be for repeat offenders. I never changed my stance.

I was referring to not being afraid to say things out loud.

The death sentence for illegal immigration ? jeez you are a NAZI and born too late.

I am more determined than ever now to become an American citizen and then I can help stamp out your kind

That would be the most valuable thing I could do for the USA

Think I will adopt some Mexican kids too and bring em here just to get up your nose

[Heracles 417]

Its a shame Mexican President doesn't spend his efforts creating jobs and helping his people in Mexico. Instead of trying to push them across border.

It's not a shame, it's a shifty strategy that allows billions be pumped out of the United States and into Mexico.

Edited June 10, 2010 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

I am more determined than ever now to become an American citizen and then I can help stamp out your kind

Mate, you are not going to stamp out anything with those POV. The second you bring up the NAZIs or some Kumbaya comment, you have lost the argument.

As posted on the other thread regarding the boy's death:

Since Southern Nationals evidently don't grasp the concept of not-Mexico, a wall is need to prevent such teenagers from being shot.

[^_^ 5,021]

The death sentence for illegal immigration ? jeez you are a NAZI and born too late.

I am more determined than ever now to become an American citizen and then I can help stamp out your kind

That would be the most valuable thing I could do for the USA

Think I will adopt some Mexican kids too and bring em here just to get up your nose

slow down, mate, you're gonna tire yourself out.

[HappyKnappy 30]

Its a shame Mexican President doesn't spend his efforts creating jobs and helping his people in Mexico. Instead of trying to push them across border.

It's more of a shame that you speak without knowing how it is. Agreed, the mexican government needs to look at creating jobs, stimulating the economy, and to sum it all up, it's THEIR problem. BUT, if at the same time, the US offers the opportunity to make a better living even if you don't have the documents authorizing you to be there, you will have this phenomenon.

The Mexican government cannot avoid free transit throughout the country, it's against the Constitution, just like the American Constitution. It's not like government officials are holding the barbed wire up so they can pass through... Think before posting, thank you.

[jimnlena 8]

Thanks for illustrating why America needs a huge wall along the entire border. An Israeli style wall that you cannot even see past.

Plus a huge fine with property confiscation to any person or business that hires an illegal. The sale of this property should offset cost of the wall!

[Captain Oates 911]

Mate, you are not going to stamp out anything with those POV. The second you bring up the NAZIs or some Kumbaya comment, you have lost the argument.

If it talks like a NAZI and thinks like a NAZI and posts like a NAZI and kills kids like a NAZI in order to teach em a lesson, then its a NAZI

NAZIS exist. I know real NAZIS and my family has had members killed and disabled fighting NAZIS.

I thought I would not have to engage them but I was wrong - they are here with us now and must be opposed

They call themselves patriotic Americans but they are Nationalists and NAZIS and a real American with American real values from the declaration and the constitution would disown them and their views. This is America and not the fourth Reich and we don't kill children to teach other people a lesson.

[HappyKnappy 30]

Since Southern Nationals evidently don't grasp the concept of not-Mexico, a wall is need to prevent such teenagers from being shot.

Yeah, good luck on that. Maybe you would like China to lend you more money for a wall like that? 13 trillion apparently is pocket change to you...

They call themselves patriotic Americans but they are Nationalists and NAZIS and a real American with American real values from the declaration and the constitution would disown them and their views. This is America and not the fourth Reich and we don't kill children to teach other people a lesson.

Exactly, there is a huge difference. A bit extreme, but still real

Edited June 10, 2010 by HappyKnappy

[Heracles 417]

It's more of a shame that you speak without knowing how it is. Agreed, the mexican government needs to look at creating jobs, stimulating the economy, and to sum it all up, it's THEIR problem. BUT, if at the same time, the US offers the opportunity to make a better living even if you don't have the documents authorizing you to be there, you will have this phenomenon.

The Mexican government cannot avoid free transit throughout the country, it's against the Constitution, just like the American Constitution. It's not like government officials are holding the barbed wire up so they can pass through... Think before posting, thank you.

Actually the US is not offering any opportunity, it's that Mexicans feel they have the right to come here and work.

Mexican government is an epic failure. It's why Mexico has the richest man in the world but also a large number of the poorest in the region.

[Captain Oates 911]

Yeah, good luck on that. Maybe you would like China to lend you more money for a wall like that? 13 trillion apparently is pocket change to you...

Exactly, there is a huge difference. A bit extreme, but still real

My cat just read booyah's sick posts and she has vomited on the carpet - now look what he's done. jeez - off to clean it up.

[HappyKnappy 30]

Actually the US is not offering any opportunity, it's that Mexicans feel they have the right to come here and work.

Mexican government is an epic failure. It's why Mexico has the richest man in the world but also a large number of the poorest in the region.

Uh, so they put a gun to the farmer's head, or threaten to kill the contractors they work for if they are not hired? Opportunities in the US are not necessarily offered by the government you know? Reading comprehension skills should be mandatory for all immigration procedures... GEEZ

And I agree with you on your second statement, the population sectors are very obvious, either you are making it, or you are not.

Edited June 10, 2010 by HappyKnappy

[Heracles 417]

They call themselves patriotic Americans but they are Nationalists and NAZIS and a real American with American real values from the declaration and the constitution would disown them and their views. This is America and not the fourth Reich and we don't kill children to teach other people a lesson.

One kid shot for circumstances we know little about is hardly a NAZI movement or the bloody fourth Reich.

Edited June 10, 2010 by Booyah!