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German passport expiered: Should I renew it while filing for AOS

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Chocolatelover   0

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Hello everyone,

I entered the USA on the VWP, overstayed, got married and now I'm about to file for AOS.

My German Passport expired and I'm wondering should I renew it before filing for AOS, or while I'm waiting for a response? Should I have my new passport ready for the interview?

When I apply for my new passport, the German authority will take away my expired passport, right? I remember that's what they do in Germany.

I made copies of all the pages in my passport. What if I'm asked to show USCIS my original passport?

What should i do?

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As far as I understand you will have to go to your nearest German consulate in person to apply for a new passport. You will not have to surrender the passport until they hand you the new one. And the old one can also be "cancelled" (ungueltig stempel/ Locher etc.). That way you can keep it.

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As far as I understand you will have to go to your nearest German consulate in person to apply for a new passport. You will not have to surrender the passport until they hand you the new one. And the old one can also be "cancelled" (ungueltig stempel/ Locher etc.). That way you can keep it.

Thank you for your response!

Do you know if I can still renew my passport even though I'm out of status right now?

I will be filling for AOS (hopefully) next week when I have everything together.

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You can always renew your passport, got nothing to do with your status in another country. The question is if the German bureaucrats will let you renew your passport here, are you still "gemeldet" in Germany?

In my opinion: renew your passport as soon as possible, you never know what you need it for. Keep it dear.

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Chocolatelover   0

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You can always renew your passport, got nothing to do with your status in another country. The question is if the German bureaucrats will let you renew your passport here, are you still "gemeldet" in Germany?

In my opinion: renew your passport as soon as possible, you never know what you need it for. Keep it dear.

Yes, I'm still 'gemeldet' in Koeln since I came here with the VWP... I never intended to overstay.... So, do I need to be 'abgemeldet' before I can renew my passport here in in NYC? How can I do that from here?

Thank you for your response!

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Yes, I'm still 'gemeldet' in Koeln since I came here with the VWP... I never intended to overstay.... So, do I need to be 'abgemeldet' before I can renew my passport here in in NYC? How can I do that from here?

Thank you for your response!

Yes, as you have to attach it to your passport application. As far as I know you can appoint somebody to get the "Abmeldebestaetigung" via power of attorney. I know people have sent their parents and such. You can't really do it from the US, you'll actually need someone to do it for you. Maybe you can call your "Kreisverwaltungsrefarat/Einwohnermeldeamt" and ask what to do.

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You should not renew your passport. Luckily for you, you cannot even renew your passport when out of status.

All they would give you is travel papers to Germany. When you have your GC and renew, they invalidate your old passport by cutting off the lower right corner, before giving it back to you. Keep it in a safe place! Your new passport application will be forwarded to the Einwohnermeldeamt in Koeln. It will take about 2-1/2 weeks and cost in excess of $200 to get a new one.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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You should not renew your passport. Luckily for you, you cannot even renew your passport when out of status.

All they would give you is travel papers to Germany. When you have your GC and renew, they invalidate your old passport by cutting off the lower right corner, before giving it back to you. Keep it in a safe place! Your new passport application will be forwarded to the Einwohnermeldeamt in Koeln. It will take about 2-1/2 weeks and cost in excess of $200 to get a new one.

I also thought that I wouldn't be able to renew my passport when I'm out of status. So, I will wait 'till I have the GC.

Two more questions: I read on several posts that one has to bring the passport to the interview and after the interview they will give a stamp...

Would they stamp my passport when it's expired?

Should I get an "Abmeldung" from Germany?

Thank you!

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No, they won't give you a stamp. If you had a visa, they'd cross it out and in most cases they remove the green I-94 card. That's it.

I'm still gemeldet and I haven't been in Germany since January 1994. A lot of discussion with pros and cons has been taken place on this, and the jury is still out. I like the idea of a Personalausweis und Führerschein, both of which require to be gemeldet. (I really don't want to get into this here.)

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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No, they won't give you a stamp. If you had a visa, they'd cross it out and in most cases they remove the green I-94 card. That's it.

I'm still gemeldet and I haven't been in Germany since January 1994. A lot of discussion with pros and cons has been taken place on this, and the jury is still out. I like the idea of a Personalausweis und Führerschein, both of which require to be gemeldet. (I really don't want to get into this here.)

Ok, thank you!

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Just a few weeks after the interview, you will have your GC in the mail. The envelope will look inconspicuous, so don't throw it away with the daily junk mail.

If you want to do an Abmeldung, you can do this anytime via snail mail, or you can do this at the Consulate when applying for a new passport. It would save you some time and money as they would not have to wait for a confirmation of the Einwohnermeldeamt that you are still gemeldet at your German address.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Just a few weeks after the interview, you will have your GC in the mail. The envelope will look inconspicuous, so don't throw it away with the daily junk mail.

If you want to do an Abmeldung, you can do this anytime via snail mail, or you can do this at the Consulate when applying for a new passport. It would save you some time and money as they would not have to wait for a confirmation of the Einwohnermeldeamt that you are still gemeldet at your German address.

That's good to know. I didn't know all that. Thank you!

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