Anyone who have Different Religion or beliefs with their Partner??

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... it's pretty difficult to completely suppress the natural tendency to question the very values and beliefs we were taught as children.

They can't even do it in Saudi Arabia and Allah knows they try hard

I hear ya.

I wish some people would be more discerning with their blessings distribution. I mean, I appreciate the sentiment behind it, but it doesn't consider that maybe I have my own belief system that doesn't involve blessings, but fondue.

My belief system involves many things, the centerpiece being lots of crispy bacon.

[Peikko 1,575]

It's a belief system. Whether it qualifies as a 'religion' I don't know. I don't think it particularly matters.

Whether a 10 year old feels something is 'unjust' or not was never the point. Now you're pulling a Boo Yah on me and rebutting something that was never said

The point... once again... is whether not allowing them harmed them. Not whether their immediate reaction was to stomp their feet on the ground and yell "not fair!".

Some people do believe just that. I don't share the belief but neither of us gets to replace their value system with our own just because we think we're cooler.

Well, that's something else again, what is harm? I don't think not allowing a child to participate in sports because of some religious requirement not to wear shorts is simply a matter of tantrums but obviously as playing soccer is not something we need to do in order to lead a fulfilled life then it can't be said to be ultimately harmful. However if it is something the child enjoys doing and is excluding from doing for a reason that can't be justified outside of a particular belief system then there is the harm of not being able to fully participate in some experiences. Wearing shorts after a certain age is not something that is peculiar to those who's belief is non belief so I can't see how one can say it's simply a matter of thinking that point of view is right.

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However if it is something the child enjoys doing and is excluding from doing for a reason that can't be justified outside of a particular belief system then there is the harm of not being able to fully participate in some experiences.

Wow. What you're really saying here is, if any religion places demands upon its adherents that aren't supported by members of other religions (or people who have no faith at all), then there's something wrong with that.

I find that judgmental and frankly, unduly harsh. That's the kind of tone I'd expect from an evangelical tard, not you.

[Peikko 1,575]

You framed it in a way to suggest that raising a child a certain religion eliminates them from making the choice on their own and what I'm pointing out is that you raise your child with a set of values and principles in the same way (you don't offer them alternative choices). In the Catholic faith, once a child becomes a teenager, there is a ceremony called Confirmation where they confirm their faith and must do it of their own free will. Now you may argue that after years of being raised Catholic, how could one even dare to question whether they want to remain Catholic, but there is a natural process in adolescence when one begins to re-examine beliefs and values they were taught. Even in the most domineering, dogmatic family structure, it happens. I'm not suggesting that it's okay for parents to be overbearing with their beliefs, but IMO, it's pretty difficult to completely suppress the natural tendency to question the very values and beliefs we were taught as children. Enlightenment would not be possible without such a trait.

Teenagers don't do anything from a basis of real understanding and free will. However, I know what you are saying, however I am saying that only being exposed to one set of practices only allows one to have a really good understanding of those practices and if there are practices that inherently predispose one to be wary of or resistant to a different set of practices, it takes a really confident young person to shake those off and experiment with alternate belief systems.

Wow. What you're really saying here is, if any religion places demands upon its adherents that aren't supported by members of other religions (or people who have no faith at all), then there's something wrong with that.

I find that judgmental and frankly, unduly harsh. That's the kind of tone I'd expect from an evangelical tard, not you.

Wow indeed - clearly I am a tard then. I don't like indoctrination, and I don't like children to be excluded from experiences simply because there is some taboo on doing it that can't be rationally explained.

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...it takes a really confident young person to shake those off and experiment with alternate belief systems.

Look at how church attendance and belief in god has fallen all over the industrialized world... it can't be that hard.

Wow indeed - clearly I am a tard then.

On this issue, you strike me as just as bad as an evangelical.

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My wife's a Buddhist. No problems so far.

[chri'stina 190]

Wow indeed - clearly I am a tard then. I don't like indoctrination, and I don't like children to be excluded from experiences simply because there is some taboo on doing it that can't be rationally explained.

So do you plan to take your kids to experience all the choices that are out there? Like a visit to a church, to a mosque, a Jewish or Hindu temple, Satanic ritual, etc so they are not excluded from any possible choices in their life? Or no?

[Peikko 1,575]

Look at how church attendance and belief in god has fallen all over the industrialized world... it can't be that hard.

On this issue, you strike me as just as bad as an evangelical.

Maybe I am as bad as an evangelical.

Most people don't become atheists or believers in other systems, they become agnostics, they do find it hard to shake off their beliefs preferring instead to mostly ignore it until something bad happens when they return to the original belief system because they don't know of an alternative way of dealing with grief or bad experiences that seem unfair. That's not very satisfactory or very evolved.

[Peikko 1,575]

So do you plan to take your kids to experience all the choices that are out there? Like a visit to a church, to a mosque, a Jewish or Hindu temple, Satanic ritual, etc so they are not excluded from any possible choices in their life? Or no?

I wouldn't take a child to a sect of any description, particularly one I don't know anything about - there are some very unscrupulous people out there who claim to be religious but who are simply extortionists. That's not a good environment for a child.

No, frankly I don't intend to embark on a series of religious immersion experiences for my child. He'll have to make those decisions on his own when he is older, but if you think I simply tell him that there is no god and to shut up about it, then you are mistaken.

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I wouldn't take a child to a sect of any description, particularly one I don't know anything about - there are some very unscrupulous people out there who claim to be religious but who are simply extortionists. That's not a good environment for a child.

No, frankly I don't intend to embark on a series of religious immersion experiences for my child. He'll have to make those decisions on his own when he is older, but if you think I simply tell him that there is no god and to shut up about it, then you are mistaken.

No, I don't think that. Just like I won't tell my child there is a God and to shut up about it.

[Peikko 1,575]

No, I don't think that. Just like I won't tell my child there is a God and to shut up about it.

Was there something in what I said that implied that you would?

If you are one of these christians that are comfortable with your faith and open to discuss alternatives with your children then great - if you are like that, it is unlikely that you would force a child to endure a religious practice that was exclusive.

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We had to wait 30 days before we could get married in India as we are from different communities and had to get married under the Special Marriage Act. I also know many foreigners who convert to Hinduism so that can have a quickie Hindu wedding without any waiting time. For some reason that really bugs me. I don't know why. It tells me that they don't know much about the religion in the first place and for them, it's merely a matter of convenience. You simply cannot "convert" to Hinduism. You are either born one or not. Hinduism is more of a culture than religion, and while "legally" the conversion is allowed, spiritually, it doesn't mean anything. Hinduism, as a body of religion, doesn't believe in conversion unlike other major global religions such as Buddhism, Christianity or Islam.

I would not convert for my husband. Neither would I let him for me. Even though we are not really religious. It's still the people we are, and I wouldn't change that.

No offense intended, this is just how I feel.

We did have an Arya Samaj marriage, where my "gora" husband had to convert to Hinduism. Now I don't believe in either you are born as a Hindu or you aren't. I am born as a Hindu but I don't believe in it (may be technically I am a Hindu because Atheism is a part of Hinduism after all, Chanakya anyone), where as my husband is more of a Hindu, he must have known every line of Bhagvatam by heart. My point is just because he wasn't born a Hindu doesn't mean he can't be a disciple. He is spiritually there more than a lot of "born Hindus" I know of, including me.

As for answering OP, I am an Atheist, hubby was born into a Protestant family but he has been more interested in Hinduism since his early teenage years. We don't have any conflicts because of religion, but I enjoy discussing things with my husband, I find it very sexy when he talks and knows about all the major religions of the world, his knowledge of different religions and history is very fascinating to me. When the time comes to raise kids, I really don't think we will have any clashes, we both are very easy going, most probably kids will have a choice of choosing whether to be religious or not.

[chri'stina 190]

Was there something in what I said that implied that you would?

If you are one of these christians that are comfortable with your faith and open to discuss alternatives with your children then great - if you are like that, it is unlikely that you would force a child to endure a religious practice that was exclusive.

At first part, no lol. But I did not imply you would tell your child to shut up about it either.

I will not teach my child alternatives but would talk about them if it comes up, if they want to seek them when older I can't stop them. One side of their grandparents and other extended family are Hindu so I am sure that is going to come up later.

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[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

One side of their grandparents and other extended family are Hindu so I am sure that is going to come up later.

Yup, it sure is.

Pick your favorite absurdity... a dude parted a sea or a monkey picked up a mountain.

[Peikko 1,575]

At first part, no lol. But I did not imply you would tell your child to shut up about it either.

I will not teach my child alternatives but would talk about them if it comes up, if they want to seek them when older I can't stop them. One side of their grandparents and other extended family are Hindu so I am sure that is going to come up later.

I was only trying to convey, badly obviously that I do talk to him about spirituality and belief. I also think it's important to teach the tools to understand and engage in successful emotional relationships and of course values of morality and ethics.