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Add Rep. Vic Snyder (D-AR) to the growing list of lawmakers saying they've received death threats in the wake of health care reform becoming law.

The Associated Press reports that Snyder was told about a letter by the Capitol Police on Tuesday saying he's a target for assassination. The police intercepted the letter.

Snyder read from a copy of the original saying: "It is apparent that it will take a few assassinations to stop Obamacare. Militia central has selected you for assassination. If we cannot stalk and find you in Washington, D.C., we will get you in Little Rock."

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While I want no ones life taken, I surely hope this scares the living hell out of some of them.

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While I want no ones life taken, I surely hope this scares the living hell out of some of them.

You want to scare a politician into reconsidering their position, you threaten to vote against them. Threatening to harm them or their family is pure thuggery.

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You want to scare a politician into reconsidering their position, you threaten to vote against them. Threatening to harm them or their family is pure thuggery.

Not really. Fear makes them think twice about their vote all the time. Threatening their 'position' only makes them think about their vote in the few months leading up to an election/only if they really care about getting re-elected.

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Not really. Fear makes them think twice about their vote all the time. Threatening their 'position' only makes them think about their vote in the few months leading up to an election/only if they really care about getting re-elected.

Well, if you endorse it so much, why don't go out and practice what you preach? Go on...show us how effective you can be.

ETA: And being the constitutional scholar that you are and a champion of the U.S. Constitution...what part of the Constitution gives you the right to make death threats against an elected official?

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Well, if you endorse it so much, why don't go out and practice what you preach? Go on...show us how effective you can be.

ETA: And being the constitutional scholar that you are and a champion of the U.S. Constitution...what part of the Constitution gives you the right to make death threats against an elected official?

See: First Amendment

“The Framers knew that free speech is the friend of change and revolution. But they also knew that it is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny.” -Hugo Black

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You want to scare a politician into reconsidering their position, you threaten to vote against them. Threatening to harm them or their family is pure thuggery.

I agree. I want them to be afraid of the voter. Ya know? the people they represent.

On a side note, I think these kinds of threats happen to most politicians. The Dems are just exploiting them right now.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



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See: First Amendment

"The Framers knew that free speech is the friend of change and revolution. But they also knew that it is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny." -Hugo Black

Then go for it, Paul. If you think it's within your 1st Amendment Right to threaten harm to politicians, then follow through on your belief.

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Then go for it, Paul. If you think it's within your 1st Amendment Right to threaten harm to politicians, then follow through on your belief.

The key and how the first amendment is or is not protected here all depends on how relevant it is to you actually carrying out the threat.

If it's considered a 'true threat' (i/e - one you'll actually probable to carry out) then the first amendment will not protect you in that case.

However, in a situation where the threat is just that, 'a threat' with no real intention shown to actually follow through with such measures, then the first amendment statute stands.

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Not really. Fear makes them think twice about their vote all the time. Threatening their 'position' only makes them think about their vote in the few months leading up to an election/only if they really care about getting re-elected.

The only fear that has a place in democracy is the fear of not getting re-elected. Fear of or threats of violence from the people is just weak.

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The only fear that has a place in democracy is the fear of not getting re-elected. Fear of or threats of violence from the people is just weak.

Unfortunately, human nature dictates that we only learn/understand things from a violent perspective.

You can be a peace loving hippie all you want, but you still need to break some windows to get people's attention.

Do you think King George would have ever listened to the colonies being like; "oh hey, we want to be separate from England now, so can you please just let us do that?"

Do you think the American people would have ever gone for WWI had the Lusitania not been sent out as a sacrifice to boil people to call for retribution?

DO you think the American people would have wanted to be in WWII if it weren't for Pearl Harbor?

We are a violent species who understands violence above all else. When we are peaceful and in semi-agreement on things we can resolve issues with words. However when there's a stark disagreement in which neither side wants to bend, it usually takes a war to decide the continued fate of man kind.

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Unfortunately, human nature dictates that we only learn/understand things from a violent perspective.

You can be a peace loving hippie all you want, but you still need to break some windows to get people's attention.

Do you think King George would have ever listened to the colonies being like; "oh hey, we want to be separate from England now, so can you please just let us do that?"

Do you think the American people would have ever gone for WWI had the Lusitania not been sent out as a sacrifice to boil people to call for retribution?

DO you think the American people would have wanted to be in WWII if it weren't for Pearl Harbor?

We are a violent species who understands violence above all else. When we are peaceful and in semi-agreement on things we can resolve issues with words. However when there's a stark disagreement in which neither side wants to bend, it usually takes a war to decide the continued fate of man kind.

Only? BS? Or was your elementary school a fight club?

Democracy is not war. You don't like how a solution to a particular issue turns out, vote for someone else. If the majority of the people don't agree with you and elect representatives who oppose the style of government you want, put up with it or GTFO. Government is not about what you as an individual wants, its about what the majority wants.

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Only? BS? Or was your elementary school a fight club?

I'm sure you saw plenty of school yard fights as a child.

Democracy is not war. You don't like how a solution to a particular issue turns out, vote for someone else. If the majority of the people don't agree with you and elect representatives who oppose the style of government you want, put up with it or GTFO. Government is not about what you as an individual wants, its about what the majority wants.

In this day and age, we're talking about the wrong type of democracy.

Go read and study the framework of this nation and the constitution. Majority rule was the last thing the founders intended to happen.

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I'm sure you saw plenty of school yard fights as a child.

In this day and age, we're talking about the wrong type of democracy.

Go read and study the framework of this nation and the constitution. Majority rule was the last thing the founders intended to happen.

If we let a group of people bully others with violence, we might as well rename our country to Afghanistan. As Dan said, violence has no place in a civilized democratic society of today.

 

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