Red-light District Proposed For Detroit

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Red-light district for Detroit? Charles Pugh says that'd be first choice, but defends new proposal

By Jonathan Oosting | MLive.com

February 18, 2010, 9:12AM

Less than two months on the job, Detroit City Council President Charles Pugh finds himself in a contentious debate over an issue the previous council failed to resolve: Strip club regulations.

Pugh and the Council last week reworked the proposed regulations, dropping a ban on alcohol and a requirement that all dancers wear pasties. Rev. Marvin Winans (he of gospel-singing family fame) argued with the council on Tuesday, and he's continued his campaign on local television and radio.

Winans, who lives in the suburbs but works in the city, is dead set on the alcohol ban and refuses to budge. "There is no common ground," he told Fox 2 yesterday." The reason there's not common ground is because there is no need for common ground. We are right."

Pugh, who is committed to connecting with residents via social media, explained his stance yesterday in

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If it were up to him, Pugh said, he'd encourage strip clubs to leave residential areas by creating a red-light district, but "at this time, we do not have the five votes for incentivizing those strip clubs to move from where they are currently to this newly-zoned district."

Instead, he said he's talking to owners about hiring security to patrol a one-block radius around their clubs, supplementing city officers trying to keep neighborhoods safe.

Pugh said the council is not interested in legislating morality and reworked the regulations to avoid lawsuits that could cost the city in the long run .

"We're making sensible provisions," he said, nothing the new proposal maintains a ban on V.I.P rooms and lap dances while requiring most employees to obtain affordable licenses.

"We care about the community. This is not about any individuals. This is not about me. This is not about any pastor."

Watch the full vlog in the video above to see Pugh giggle after he says "pasties."

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There is a pattern amongst such cities throughout America..

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There is a pattern amongst such cities throughout America..

Aussie Lawmaker In Strip Club Scandal

Night Of Drunken Debauchery In NYC May Hinder Kevin Rudd's Chance To Be Australia's Next PM

CANBERRA, Australia, Aug, 22, 2007

(AP) Opposition leader Kevin Rudd's drunken night in a New York strip club four years ago may have shaken his chances of becoming Australia's next prime minister and has turned the spotlight on the private lives of lawmakers.

The bookish 49-year-old former diplomat predicted he would "take a belting in the opinion polls" after a report in News Corp. newspapers throughout Australia on Sunday about a drunken night he had in the high-priced Manhattan club "Scores" in 2003.

Rudd, a committed Christian and family man, has denied reports that he was warned by management for touching strippers but added his recollection of the night was hazy because of alcohol.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/...in3193903.shtml

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Dude, no offense but do you actually have an opinion of your own? Or do you simply post articles? You speak English right?

Think of Detroit or any other shitwhole city in America, now think of the successful cities. Notice any difference in the quality of leaders? Now, expand this to an international level..

Edited February 23, 2010 by Booyah

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Dude, no offense but do you actually have an opinion of your own? Or do you simply post articles? You speak English right?

Think of Detroit or any other shitwhole city in America, now think of the successful cities. Notice any difference in the quality of leaders? Now, expand this to an international level..

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Not sure what you're trying to get at? Most of the mayors in the inner cities have been led by Democrats for going on multiple decades

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***Shithole.....not shitWhole***

Not sure what you're trying to get at? Most of the mayors in the inner cities have been led by Democrats for going on multiple decades

Good work, you are paying attention.

Well yes and no, I agree that Dems just don't seem to have the knack for job creation but you cannot pretend that Republicans are any better. Half the cities from the Midwest to the South are laughable at best. If anyone from China visited them, they would laugh their pants off and think are these the losers we are competing with. Game over.

Detroit is just another failed US city. I mean seriously, look at Vancouver and then compare it to any city here, let alone Detroit. Rather than competing with the world you are apart of, we simply allow the same morons to vote the same fools in, who have great ideas like a 'red-light district'.

Edited February 23, 2010 by Booyah

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Good work, you are paying attention.

Well yes and no, I agree that Dems just don't seem to have the knack for job creation but you cannot pretend that Republicans are any better. Half the cities from the Midwest to the South are laughable at best. If anyone from China visited them, they would laugh their pants off and think are these the losers we are competing with. Game over.

Detroit is just another failed US city. I mean seriously, look at Vancouver and then compare it to any city here, let alone Detroit. Rather than competing with the world you are apart of, we simply allow the same morons to vote the same fools in, who have great ideas like a 'red-light district'.

yeap, the well of political potentials is very shallow. this is why i didn't want hillary as president. electing a former president's wife after we already had a former president's son made me feel sick. people immediately focus on the familiar one and are too lazy and/or busy to consider anyone else.

i wish the US way of life on no nation!

i can't say the repubs are as worse, however. they have little tolerance for BS among cry baby minorities that want to pull the race card out in every part of life.

Edited February 23, 2010 by DEDixon

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***Shithole.....not shitWhole***

Not sure what you're trying to get at? Most of the mayors in the inner cities have been led by corrupt Democrats for going on multiple decades

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yeap, the well of political potentials is very shallow. this is why i didn't want hillary as president. electing a former president's wife after we already had a former president's son made me feel sick. people immediately focus on the familiar one and are too lazy and/or busy to consider anyone else.

i wish the US way of life on no nation!

That's exactly what I thought. Surely in a country of 300,000,000 people there is some bright candidate who has not run before. Unfortunately many politicians here are career politicians, with their family following suit. People here seem to be bedazzled by an image rather than the candidate's performance or experience. It's why we still have 93 year old in the senate. What the hell does someone born in a totally different era know about 2010 and the challenges we face in 2010? What does any politician that has not held a job in 30 years know about the perils Americans face in 2010?

It's the same deal with employment here. It's all about image. If someone has Harvard on their resume, they are a foot in. Whereas, in Aus we consider the totality of a candidate. A single mom, originally from the ghetto, who has risen above their personal challenges and graduated with a decent degree is 100 times more valuable than an ivy league grad, with a 4.0, funded by mommy and daddy.

Not to mention, many have been indoctrinated that the US is the best, no ifs and or buts, therefore, refuse to even acknowledge other cities that are 100 fold better better than those here; in terms of the quality of a city and quality of life. Detroit amongst many other cities are a national embarrassment. Even the large cities have been neglected and look extremely shoddy and dilapidated.

Edited February 23, 2010 by Booyah

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Detroit is just another failed US city. I mean seriously, look at Vancouver and then compare it to any city here, let alone Detroit. Rather than competing with the world you are apart of, we simply allow the same morons to vote the same fools in, who have great ideas like a 'red-light district'.

Vancouver has its fair share of problems too. The Downtown Eastside is one of the worst areas of ANY city. Rampant drug use...people whacked out of their minds...it's pretty insane to just drive through the area, let alone stop and get out. I went to college with a guy who used to drive a tank in Israel, and I remember him saying that he'd seen a lot of bad things, but the Downtown Eastside was the worst of them. There's even a "safe injection" site down there where addicts can go and get free needles and shoot up in private...

Much of Vancouver is great, and I've lived here most of my life...but until areas like that are cleaned up, you can't use Vancouver as the gold standard by which you compare all other cities.

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That's exactly what I thought. Surely in a country of 300,000,000 people there is some bright candidate who has not run before. Unfortunately many politicians here are career politicians, with their family following suit. People here seem to be bedazzled by an image rather than the candidate's performance or experience. It's why we still have 93 year old in the senate. What the hell does someone born in a totally different era know about 2010 and the challenges we face in 2010? What does any politician that has not held a job in 30 years know about the perils Americans face in 2010?

It's the same deal with employment here. It's all about image. If someone has Harvard on their resume, they are a foot in. Whereas, in Aus we consider the totality of a candidate. A single mom, originally from the ghetto, who has risen above their personal challenges and graduated with a decent degree is 100 times more valuable than an ivy league grad, with a 4.0, funded by mommy and daddy.

Not to mention, many have been indoctrinated that the US is the best, no ifs and or buts, therefore, refuse to even acknowledge other cities that are 100 fold better better than those here; in terms of the quality of a city and quality of life. Detroit amongst many other cities are a national embarrassment. Even the large cities have been neglected and look extremely shoddy and dilapidated.

Politics destroys the purity of any good idea. Even before you get to the stage whre you have to negotiate with the opposition, you have to reconcile it within your own party. Special interest groups and political action committes rape any forward thinking legislature that is to their detriment, even if it is to the greater benefit of the country. Sad really.

Now, Detroit is in the sad state that it is in because it has been holding onto an economic model that has failed, and was bound to fail. The auto industry has been losing money for decades, yet continued to perpetuate the same plan. The Obama administrations bailout of the auto industry was a poorly crafted idea. I think the entire bailout was a poorly thought out plan. Good idea, but poorly executed with no measurement or oversight mechanism involved.

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Strip clubs make a red light district? Since when? I mean, yes, I realize prostitution does occur in some of these clubs but it's not open and certainly not available to anyone but regulars. So how does having strip clubs make an area a red light district?????

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Vancouver has its fair share of problems too. The Downtown Eastside is one of the worst areas of ANY city. Rampant drug use...people whacked out of their minds...it's pretty insane to just drive through the area, let alone stop and get out. I went to college with a guy who used to drive a tank in Israel, and I remember him saying that he'd seen a lot of bad things, but the Downtown Eastside was the worst of them. There's even a "safe injection" site down there where addicts can go and get free needles and shoot up in private...

Much of Vancouver is great, and I've lived here most of my life...but until areas like that are cleaned up, you can't use Vancouver as the gold standard by which you compare all other cities.

You need to see Detroit amongst numerous other cities to see what I mean. The difference is that instead of isolated areas, vast sections of cities here are dilapidated no-go zones. Of course every city has its problems but a hell of a lot of cities over here have huge problems and have basically been abandoned. It's why white flight occurred, with many hitting the suburbs or exurbs.

Put it this way, you will not find a Vancouver, Melbourne, Sydney, Vienna etc anywhere in the US. Now old town Alexandria, VA is quite nice, just don't venture into east DC.

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As an example:

Chernobyl (2006) - A city abandoned 20 years ago, for obvious reason.

Detroit (2009)

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Melbourne, AUS (2008)