Report of Marriage - what else is it needed for?

[Armenia 18]

From what I've read here, if a Filipino gets married abroad, she has to apply for a Report of Marriage (at the PH Consulate/Embassy that has jurisdiction over the place where the marriage took place) so she can apply for/renew a passport in her married name.

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

Other than for the purpose of changing her name on the passport, is there any other use of the Report of Marriage for the Filipina?

[john_and_marlene 162]

From what I've read here, if a Filipino gets married abroad, she has to apply for a Report of Marriage (at the PH Consulate/Embassy that has jurisdiction over the place where the marriage took place) so she can apply for/renew a passport in her married name.

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

Other than for the purpose of changing her name on the passport, is there any other use of the Report of Marriage for the Filipina?

It properly records the valid marriage with the NSO. There are certain priviledges bestowed upon the legal immediate family members of a Filipino citizen such as 1 year visit visas at the POE rather than the normal 21 days. It would also be required if you ever want to live there with a 13A resident visa.

And, no you cannot get the name changed without it by applying while you are there at the DFA. The DFA would require a CEMAR indicating that the marriage had been reported.

[Armenia 18]

It properly records the valid marriage with the NSO. There are certain priviledges bestowed upon the legal immediate family members of a Filipino citizen such as 1 year visit visas at the POE rather than the normal 21 days. It would also be required if you ever want to live there with a 13A resident visa.

And, no you cannot get the name changed without it by applying while you are there at the DFA. The DFA would require a CEMAR indicating that the marriage had been reported.

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

[rheanick 42]

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

If you are now changing your name,why bother to indicate that you are married.

[Armenia 18]

If you are now changing your name,why bother to indicate that you are married.

If it's an official/legal form, if I don't say I'm married when I am, that would be perjury.

[john_and_marlene 162]

If it's an official/legal form, if I don't say I'm married when I am, that would be perjury.

You mean like using your maiden name for the passport application after you've changed your name?

[rheanick 42]

If it's an official/legal form, if I don't say I'm married when I am, that would be perjury.

if you are worried about perjury, then why don't you just follow the process. The process is a straight forward thing. If you are married, file for report of marriage. Just deal with the long list of requirements. Then you dont have to worry about perjury.

[Armenia 18]

You mean like using your maiden name for the passport application after you've changed your name?

That is not perjury.

Philippine Law (Family Cde) does not require a female Filipino to take her husband's name. That is an option/a choice, not mandatory.

[john_and_marlene 162]

That is not perjury.

Philippine Law (Family Cde) does not require a female Filipino to take her husband's name. That is an option/a choice, not mandatory.

I take it then that she will retain her maiden name for her green card/ss card/drivers license? Why are you opposed to reporting the marriage?

[Armenia 18]

I take it then that she will retain her maiden name for her green card/ss card/drivers license? Why are you opposed to reporting the marriage?

This is getting so off-topic.

I am not opposed to reporting the marriage although, I must say, I absolutely hate the typical tediousness that goes with processing Phil legal papers.

Could we get back to the original question please?

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

If the passport will still be in my maiden name, then the DFA does not require an NSO-issued marriage certificate. Yes or No?

Edited February 10, 2010 by Armenia

[john_and_marlene 162]

This is getting so off-topic.

I am not opposed to reporting the marriage although, I must say, I absolutely hate the typical tediousness that goes with processing Phil legal papers.

Could we get back to the original question please?

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

If the passport will still be in my maiden name, then the DFA does not require an NSO-issued marriage certificate. Yes or No?

Call the DFA and ask. I don't know of anyone who has ever attempted to circumvent the marriage reporting requirement and get a passport renewal as married, but in the maiden name. I imagine the runaround you'll get with trying to get answers from the DFA will be far more troublesome

than the ease of submitting a report of marriage. For the ROM, you fill out a form and submit it to the consulate that services your area along with your marriage certificate and a small fee--nothing tedious about it.

Edited February 10, 2010 by john_and_marlene

[rheanick 42]

This is getting so off-topic.

I am not opposed to reporting the marriage although, I must say, I absolutely hate the typical tediousness that goes with processing Phil legal papers.

Could we get back to the original question please?

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

If the passport will still be in my maiden name, then the DFA does not require an NSO-issued marriage certificate. Yes or No?

If you would indicate that you are married, DFA needs the NSO certified marriage certificate.

[skidivawannabe 2]

From what I've read here, if a Filipino gets married abroad, she has to apply for a Report of Marriage (at the PH Consulate/Embassy that has jurisdiction over the place where the marriage took place) so she can apply for/renew a passport in her married name.

If the Filipina is renewing her passport in the Phils WITHOUT changing her surname but indicating (on the passport application form) that she is married to a US citizen, will the DFA still require the submission of an NSO-issued marriage certificate?

Other than for the purpose of changing her name on the passport, is there any other use of the Report of Marriage for the Filipina?

If you have no intentions of having a life in the Philippines, the report of marriage is pretty useless. But if you intend to open joint bank accounts as married couple, acquire Filipino citizenship for your future children, buy property and perhaps relocate there, then having that would definitely be an advantage.

We all know that our U.S marriages are legal, however, should you find the need to present a "marriage contract" in the Philippines, presenting the U.S issued MC will be insufficient w/o the Report of Marriage. Strictly speaking, the government does not recognize the U.S issued marriage contract w/o the Report of Marriage. In theory, your wife is still considered single in the Philippines because her marriage is not registered in the National Statistics Office. Having that report of marriage includes your offshore marriage in the civil registry books of the Philippines.

I used this document as part of our additional evidence of bona fide marriage although it's not really on the list.

[Armenia 18]

Call the DFA and ask. I don't know of anyone who has ever attempted to circumvent the marriage reporting requirement and get a passport renewal as married, but in the maiden name. I imagine the runaround you'll get with trying to get answers from the DFA will be far more troublesome

than the ease of submitting a report of marriage. For the ROM, you fill out a form and submit it to the consulate that services your area along with your marriage certificate and a small fee--nothing tedious about it.

It is interesting to observe that you freely make assumptions about people (opposed to, circumvent).

Not that it's any of your business, but I will briefly explain just to satisfy your uzi-ness.

1. The PH Consulate is far from where I live. I'll have to schedule a trip and a plane ticket to get there.

2. I could apply by mail. I'll need to have the marriage doc notarized by a notary public (NP) but, unlike in the US where the signature of an NP can be authenticated at the local county offices, I'll have to mail my notarized marriage document to a private association, wait for them to mail it back to me before mailing it to the PH Consulate, then wait for the PH Consulate to mail my report back to me.

3. All these mailing back and forth would probably take 5 to 6 weeks by which time I would already have left Canada. I could have the PH Consulate mail the report to my Manila address though.

4. Once in the Philippines, I've read on this board that the DFA does not recognize the ROM. It only recognizes the NSO-issued marriage certificate which, according to posts on this board again, will take 4-6 months (?).

And so, John_Marlene, those are the reasons why I was asking if the DFA still requires a marriage certificate if I am not going to renew my passport in my husband's name. By the time I have to go to the DFA, the NSO will not have finished processing my marriage certificate yet.

Anyway, I'll just try going to the DFA. After all, I assume I am not the only married Filipina who chooses to keep her name. (And I will not even ask nor bring up the topic because I accept that women have their own personal, professional or whatever reasons for keeping or changing their names.)

FYI - The DFA passport application form (on the DFA webpage) doesn't list the marriage certificate as a requirement for passport renewal. It only lists the marriage certificate as a requirement "for married woman who wants to use the surname of spouse." The reason I still asked on this board is that it occasionally does happen that a Phil office asks for something that is not listed in their own guidelines.

[rheanick 42]

It is interesting to observe that you freely make assumptions about people (opposed to, circumvent).

Not that it's any of your business, but I will briefly explain just to satisfy your uzi-ness.

1. The PH Consulate is far from where I live. I'll have to schedule a trip and a plane ticket to get there.

2. I could apply by mail. I'll need to have the marriage doc notarized by a notary public (NP) but, unlike in the US where the signature of an NP can be authenticated at the local county offices, I'll have to mail my notarized marriage document to a private association, wait for them to mail it back to me before mailing it to the PH Consulate, then wait for the PH Consulate to mail my report back to me.

3. All these mailing back and forth would probably take 5 to 6 weeks by which time I would already have left Canada. I could have the PH Consulate mail the report to my Manila address though.

4. Once in the Philippines, I've read on this board that the DFA does not recognize the ROM. It only recognizes the NSO-issued marriage certificate which, according to posts on this board again, will take 4-6 months (?).

And so, John_Marlene, those are the reasons why I was asking if the DFA still requires a marriage certificate if I am not going to renew my passport in my husband's name. By the time I have to go to the DFA, the NSO will not have finished processing my marriage certificate yet.

Anyway, I'll just try going to the DFA. After all, I assume I am not the only married Filipina who chooses to keep her name. (And I will not even ask nor bring up the topic because I accept that women have their own personal, professional or whatever reasons for keeping or changing their names.)

FYI - The DFA passport application form (on the DFA webpage) doesn't list the marriage certificate as a requirement for passport renewal. It only lists the marriage certificate as a requirement "for married woman who wants to use the surname of spouse." The reason I still asked on this board is that it occasionally does happen that a Phil office asks for something that is not listed in their own guidelines.

I would assume that you are the USC husband....

She could check married and put in the husband data.... the people at DFA could 1) look at it and ask for it, 2) erase it and 3) dont bother with it, since she is still using her single name. It would be a simple passport renewal for her.

Technically, she is still single in the Philippines since her marriage is not reported in the NSO.

Edited February 10, 2010 by rheanick