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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Posted

Hi all, below is a link to a question my friend post to immigration attorneys.

The basic details are my friend is a Canadian Citizen- she entered the US on a student visa. She did not leave the US till 9 months after it expired. She did not send her I-194 in when she left. She entered the US again several times after and stayed for many more months (she was essentially living in the US illegally). She went back to Canada this past Christmas and her fiance came to visit. They went to re-enter the US at the Peace Bridge and told immigration they were going to Fla for New Years (which was true) and that she was going to travel back to NYC with him (which was true) and then fly out back to Toronto (not true). The agent asked for the ticket which she didn't have- then sent her to secondary screening.

After much questioning, they denied her entry and one of the CBP said they suspected she might be living in the US illegally. They told her not to attempt re-entry for another 6 months.

She told me after that the CBP agent that escorted her and her fiance back to to the car and who processed her paperwork- but wasn't the officer who denied her was pretty decent. She said when she asked him if she *really* had to wait 6 months to come back. He told her that they say 6 months just because they like to see a big span of time between re-entries/ visits but he wouldn't suggest she tried again for at least 4 months- and of course her success would be at the will of that CBP agent.

She and her boyfriend/fiance would not like to get married-but the concern is about the overstay. The link I posted- one lawyer seemed to suggest that at F1 overstay does not result in a 3/10 ban. I have never heard of this, I have only heard of minors being exempt.

I have done some reading and it from what I have found is that the US government is actually only aware of 20% of overstays on Visa's because they commonly do not reconcile I-194 or any other departure records' nor is Canada on the US SCAN.

What should she do about her I-194?

If she denies the overstay what do you think is the likelihood of the government knowing?

If she admits to it will she face a ban?

This is the link below.

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/i-was-in...tify-_-question

04-21-2006 | Marriage in Santa Ana, CA
I-130 Process
06-29-2006 | Mailed to CSC
08-23-2006 | Was told application was rejected & sent back
08-30-2006 | Recieved rejected package
09-01-2006 | Resubmitted I-130
09-08-2006 | NOA1 (now that's more like it)
09-13-2006 | Recieved NOA1 in the mail
12-19-2006 | Recieved email RFE
12-20-2006 | Recieved RFE in mail
12-22-2006 | Sent out RFE info
01-09-2007 | NOA2 Email received!
I-130 at NVC
01-24-2007 | Case Number Assigned
02-06-2007 | Emailed DS-3032 COA
02-09-2007 | NVC confirms COA in email
02-20-2007 | DS3032 & AOS Fee Bill Mailed
02-26-2007 | Received DS3032 and AOS Fee Bill
02-28-2007 | Mailed AOS Fee Bill and check
03-13-2007 | I-864 received
03-21-2007 | I-864 sent
05-16-2007 | IV Bill resent from NVC (never got the first)
06-02-2007 | IV Bill received
06-05-2007 | IV Bill payment sent
06-26-2007 | Received DS230
06-29-2007 | Mailed DS230 to NVC
08-15-2007 | NVC process complete but was sent back to US CIS (#@$%#$% this sucks)
11-08-2007 | I-130 returned to NVC
11-08-2007 | Requested expedited interview due to daughters illness
11-21-2007 | NVC approved expedited interview. Mailed to Montreal Embassy Nov 20th
12-11-2007 | Told by contact at US Consulate in Toronto that our interview date will be on Jan 4th.
01-04-2008 | Interview In Montreal. VISA GRANTED
01-11-2008 | Arrival in the US
11-09-2009 | Biometrics taken for 10 year green card
01-20-2010 | Approved- 10 GC ordered for production

06-22-2013 | N-400 package sent

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

* correction...

Her and her fiance would NOW like to get married but the concern is about the overstay....

(I accidentally wrote they would NOT)

04-21-2006 | Marriage in Santa Ana, CA
I-130 Process
06-29-2006 | Mailed to CSC
08-23-2006 | Was told application was rejected & sent back
08-30-2006 | Recieved rejected package
09-01-2006 | Resubmitted I-130
09-08-2006 | NOA1 (now that's more like it)
09-13-2006 | Recieved NOA1 in the mail
12-19-2006 | Recieved email RFE
12-20-2006 | Recieved RFE in mail
12-22-2006 | Sent out RFE info
01-09-2007 | NOA2 Email received!
I-130 at NVC
01-24-2007 | Case Number Assigned
02-06-2007 | Emailed DS-3032 COA
02-09-2007 | NVC confirms COA in email
02-20-2007 | DS3032 & AOS Fee Bill Mailed
02-26-2007 | Received DS3032 and AOS Fee Bill
02-28-2007 | Mailed AOS Fee Bill and check
03-13-2007 | I-864 received
03-21-2007 | I-864 sent
05-16-2007 | IV Bill resent from NVC (never got the first)
06-02-2007 | IV Bill received
06-05-2007 | IV Bill payment sent
06-26-2007 | Received DS230
06-29-2007 | Mailed DS230 to NVC
08-15-2007 | NVC process complete but was sent back to US CIS (#@$%#$% this sucks)
11-08-2007 | I-130 returned to NVC
11-08-2007 | Requested expedited interview due to daughters illness
11-21-2007 | NVC approved expedited interview. Mailed to Montreal Embassy Nov 20th
12-11-2007 | Told by contact at US Consulate in Toronto that our interview date will be on Jan 4th.
01-04-2008 | Interview In Montreal. VISA GRANTED
01-11-2008 | Arrival in the US
11-09-2009 | Biometrics taken for 10 year green card
01-20-2010 | Approved- 10 GC ordered for production

06-22-2013 | N-400 package sent

Posted

Sounds like she is misrepresenting herself (Toronto return) and now wants to deny the "overstay" (if there was any - depends what was on her F-1 I-94 (D/S or date))

Not good - I would recommend for her to tell the truth - because it can come back hard if they catch you.

F-1's are most likely to have D/S on them, so that means only an immigration judge can determine if she overstayed.

Since she is a Canadian, they are treated a bit differently - so her trips to the US after she left are within the visit guidelines. (however, multiple trips within a certain time frame probably is what triggered the stop on the bridge, using the multiple visits as a de facto green card is frowned upon)

However, I do not think the F-1 issue cause a problem in the visa application. (lying about it will)

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

Thank you for your response.

Since only an immigration judge can determine if she overstayed how should this be addressed in the application if it asks if she has every violated the terms of a US visa?

She obviously would not like to lie because as you said, it can catch up with her and make matters worse.

04-21-2006 | Marriage in Santa Ana, CA
I-130 Process
06-29-2006 | Mailed to CSC
08-23-2006 | Was told application was rejected & sent back
08-30-2006 | Recieved rejected package
09-01-2006 | Resubmitted I-130
09-08-2006 | NOA1 (now that's more like it)
09-13-2006 | Recieved NOA1 in the mail
12-19-2006 | Recieved email RFE
12-20-2006 | Recieved RFE in mail
12-22-2006 | Sent out RFE info
01-09-2007 | NOA2 Email received!
I-130 at NVC
01-24-2007 | Case Number Assigned
02-06-2007 | Emailed DS-3032 COA
02-09-2007 | NVC confirms COA in email
02-20-2007 | DS3032 & AOS Fee Bill Mailed
02-26-2007 | Received DS3032 and AOS Fee Bill
02-28-2007 | Mailed AOS Fee Bill and check
03-13-2007 | I-864 received
03-21-2007 | I-864 sent
05-16-2007 | IV Bill resent from NVC (never got the first)
06-02-2007 | IV Bill received
06-05-2007 | IV Bill payment sent
06-26-2007 | Received DS230
06-29-2007 | Mailed DS230 to NVC
08-15-2007 | NVC process complete but was sent back to US CIS (#@$%#$% this sucks)
11-08-2007 | I-130 returned to NVC
11-08-2007 | Requested expedited interview due to daughters illness
11-21-2007 | NVC approved expedited interview. Mailed to Montreal Embassy Nov 20th
12-11-2007 | Told by contact at US Consulate in Toronto that our interview date will be on Jan 4th.
01-04-2008 | Interview In Montreal. VISA GRANTED
01-11-2008 | Arrival in the US
11-09-2009 | Biometrics taken for 10 year green card
01-20-2010 | Approved- 10 GC ordered for production

06-22-2013 | N-400 package sent

Posted
Thank you for your response.

Since only an immigration judge can determine if she overstayed how should this be addressed in the application if it asks if she has every violated the terms of a US visa?

She obviously would not like to lie because as you said, it can catch up with her and make matters worse.

I would imagine since she wasn't before an IJ, there is nothing to show any violations.

She may want to talk to an immigration lawyer about sending back the I-94 for the F-1, her status as a F-1 complicates matters a bit. (or make them easier because of the D/S)

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline
Posted

Certainly, it is lawyer time. She'll want to do everything by the book now in order not to futher complicate her case.

Good luck

USCIS
August 12, 2008 - petition sent
August 16, 2008 - NOA-1
February 10, 2009 - NOA-2
178 DAYS FROM NOA-1


NVC
February 13, 2009 - NVC case number assigned
March 12, 2009 - Case Complete
25 DAY TRIP THROUGH NVC


Medical
May 4, 2009


Interview
May, 26, 2009


POE - June 20, 2009 Toronto - Atlanta, GA

Removal of Conditions
Filed - April 14, 2011
Biometrics - June 2, 2011 (early)
Approval - November 9, 2011
209 DAY TRIP TO REMOVE CONDITIONS

Citizenship

April 29, 2013 - NOA1 for petition received

September 10, 2013 Interview - decision could not be made.

April 15, 2014 APPROVED. Wait for oath ceremony

Waited...

September 29, 2015 - sent letter to senator.

October 16, 2015 - US Citizen

 
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