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I also want to add that the CO asked my fiance if he's got any other police record filed aside from his shoplifting case and of course my fiance was shocked we didn't know what the CO was talking about so my fiance denied it and clarified that he was not involved to any criminal activity whatsoever.

This is wierd. I didn't think that the petitioners have to declare any criminal record unless it's related to the Adam Walsh Act? I know he doesn't have a record, but even if he did, what does that have to do with anything...

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K-1/K-2 NOA1 - POE: 9 February - 9 July 2010

Married: 17 July 2010

AOS mailed - Interview : 22 November 2010 - 10 March 2011

ROC mailed - approved: 14 February - 18 June 2013

Citizenship mailed - ceremony: 9 February - 7 June 2017

 

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I don't know if this is the right place to rant and express how upset i am.

I'm a Filipino girl, 21 years old from a political clan in pampanga. My loving fiance is an american, 22 years old, from stockton. We met in the states 3 years ago in a coffee shop in bay area where he worked at as a waiter, became friends and fell in love. I was 18 that time and in spite of his small disability (his left eye is smaller than the right one) and status in life, i knew he was my prince charming and the only guy i'd like to spend my whole life with. I always visit him in the states as i have the means to do so. If it's his birthday, i buy him a ticket so we could celebrate his day here in the philippines. My father didn't like him at first but things get better between them on his second and third visits. We're always happy and in love.

December 2008, i received a call from an unknown number and figured out that it was my fiance asking me to pick him up at the the local airport! I couldn't be happier when i saw him waiting for me and i was so touched when he said he's been saving up for his little surprise. We spent the holiday together and he proposed to me which i gladly accepted. We decided to apply for a k1 visa because we were told that that's the fastest way we can get married and settle down in the states. My fiance went home with all the necessary papers and started processing my visa right away. We're lucky because his parents are very supportive and they helped him since day 1. Everything went well due to my fiance's hardwork. I received the packet in the mail on october 2009 and was schedule for an interview on the 12th of november. Of course my guy wanted to come with me to show his support so i bought him a ticket and came here 1 week before my interview.

Ok. November 12th, 2009. The pre-screening was perfect minus that fat lady. I smiled with all my heart, gave the papers she needed and answered her questions. She then looked at me for few seconds which i found very awkward and i slightly got shy or intimidated or whatever so i asked why she was looking at me that way. She didn't answer, as if she didn't hear what i said but at least she was waken up and asked me to sit down for a moment. Well, i didn't have a clue why she was staring at me that way until a tall guy who looks asian but not filipino approached us and directed me to the CO.

This middle-age american CO, who looks like jack nicholson's skinny version with a half-blonde/half-gray hair, started it by alternately reading the documents n his hand and looking at me. He was in that position for a minute and yes i finally had a clue and felt something is not right. But i stayed cool and smiled at him like we know each other personally. He turned to his computer and started to type something. He's still typing when we proceed to the actual interview. Ok. I'm not exaggerating things here but 90% of his questions are weird, funny and pointless. His first set of questions consisted of my fiance's age, birthday, zodiac sign, school, previous relationship, siblings, pets, house, body tattoo. He stopped typing then proceed to the second set of questions. I noticed he started to speak slowly and changed tone and looked real serious and that made him look like he was confronting me for some kind of crime. Well, we eventually had a small confrontation when he asked (in a very sarcastic tone) if i am aware of my fiance's eye problem, his failure to reach the required salary in his affidavit of support, how low his average salary could be for being a college drop-out, living in stockton all his life which according to him is the worst city in america in terms of government, poverty and crime, and few more stupid questions that made me feel upset and mad i raised my voice to defend my fiance the best way i could. The old skinny man tried to calm me down and called another american grandpa who immediately came inside the room and started to type something in the computer. Well i don't really mind seeing two or twenty american grandpaps in corporate suit around during my interview so i asked the CO if there's anything else he needs to know about me and my fiance. He didn't say a word and requested if i could bring my fiance inside the room so i stood up and went out i'm not sure if the he was still saying something and then i saw my blonde guy at the same spot i was sitting at earlier. I dragged him and while heading back to the room i told him i was sorry it's not our lucky day.

This time it looks like the second grandpap was finished typing because he's already standing at the back of the CO and they were both looking at my fiance. I can't explain that kind of look i can't say if they wanted to cry or laugh or pass out or if they just happened to be gifted that kind of face. I felt my fiance was embarrassed (he's a very very shy guy) so still with a pissed tone i interrupted and introduced him to them. The CO asked him simple questions like some info about his family and their background. Meanwhile i caught the second grandpap looking at me every once in a while like he was checking out my expression and it got me irritated so i returned the favor and stared at him and his bald head until the CO is done with my fiance. He asked my guy to excuse us and when he's out, the CO turned to me compiled some papers and said this.

"Are you sure you're marrying that guy? I'm sorry young lady i'm afraid i can't give you a visa. We'll send you a letter.....".

I got so pissed and told him to stop under estimating my fiance's capacity i know him more than anyone else his eye problem is a result of a bike accident when he was a kid but if it's that big of a deal then i'll bring him to the best eye surgeon then bring him back to that embassy with or without their k1 and that my fiance's not a lazy drop-out he just had to quit college and get a job instead to support himself and if i would have to transfer everything i inherited under his name then i would be willing to do that within 24 hours no questions asked just for that embassy to stop humiliating my guy! Of course they tried to calm me down but i was too carried away to listen i knew it was the end of it and i may be banned from entering the states for the rest of my life and just when i was about to leave the CO suddenly said "Ok young lady i think the US changed his mind and approved your visa. Congratulations." Well, i was still pissed but i felt happy inside when i heard him say that. I thought they were just playing games on us but the CO looks serious. I didn't see them smiling or any sing that they were just joking and pretended that my visa is denied. He attached a form stamped on some papers and place them to my folder before handing it to me. The second grandpap said "You two will be monitored until you get married." I just threw them a look and left.

People, i swear it didn't intend to make a scene but no way i could let anyone humiliate my fiance like that. In the first place, my fiance had no business in that room. Of course we rushed to a legal consultant and he said that it could be a fraud interview. He verified my papers and confirmed that everything looks normal. The visa will be mailed and we can leave after that. Until now we're clueless if the second grandpap was serious when he said our marriage will be "monitored". And that's exactly what I'm worried about. What are they going to do? Why do we appear fraudulent even if our engagement is genuine (God knows it is) genuine and we love each other)? What made them think we're fraudulent? Why did the CO treat my fiance like that they're both american in the first place? Will the state police chase us even if i have a K1? What can we expect upon arrival in the US with a K1? What will the Immigration people do to us? Should I bring a lawyer? Is there anyone we can contact if something goes wrong on our arrival? Like an immigration lawyer a consultant or a specialist i don't mind whoever he is i'm willing to pay for the help..

Right now, my fiance is worried yes we're both worried but pretends he's not and that the wedding will be okay. He doesn't want me to tell my family about it as it could just delay our wedding and i completely understand what he feels. We just want to go and get married and establish a family. I don't mind living in his city even if it's the worst place in the planet. So I decided to do some research on my own before making a decision whether or not it's still okay to go to the states.

Thank you for reading i feel better now.

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After every such experience, US citizen should write to correct authorities, their congressman and senators. Only then will such behavior start changing. Each one of such jerk officer's salary is being paid from your tax dollars! So why won't you demand the same quality of service from these officers that you'd from one inside US? Only by making your voice heard loud & clear will things change. And you're also helping those coming behind you.

All you need to do to write to the correct authorities is as simple as going to the contact web-page of USCIS or State Department. You can use contact or feedback or ombudsman email address on those web-pages. You can avoid your personal details and only mention the consular location, officer name/number if possible or time/day of visit.

Take action for change. Demand accountability.

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frankly speaking, I think the co was emphasizing that you two were so much different especially when it comes to status in life. They are so used to seeing Filipinas marrying older men, or Filipinas from barrios marrying Americans. In short, for them, all Filipinas marrying Americans are just seeking better lives. So your case probably made them so curious.

When I was interviewed, the mean woman co asked me repeatedly how I could afford to go to the US so many times when she can't even do that.

January 16, 2008 - sent I-129F (Vermont)

January 21, 2008 - NOA1

March 16, 2008 - NOA2

August 7&9,2008 - Medical K1&K2

August 21, 2008 - Paid document verification fee (P1,300)

August 27, 2008 - Interview

September 08,2008 - Document Verification request sent to NSO

Spetember 19,2008 - Document Verification done -sent back to US Embassy Manila

November 03, 2008 - Case under review

November 26, 2008 - VISA printed

November 28, 2008 - VISA in transit

December 02, 2008- VISA IN HAND

January 12, 2009 - Arrived USA, POE Los Angeles

January 21, 2009 - Got married

January 22, 2009 - Applied for SSN

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AOS

February 10, 2009 - Went to Dr. Janet Pettyjohn for form I-693

February 11, 2009 - Sent our AOS packet to Chicago

February 12, 2009 - Packet received signed for by L BOX

February 22, 2009 - Received NOA1 for AOS, EAD & AP

March 17, 2009 - Biometrics Appointment

March 21, 2009 - SSN card arrived in the mail

April 6, 2009 - took driver's license exam and passed! (written and road test)

April 10, 2009 - Repeat Biometrics Appointment

April 14,2009 - Received AP documents in the mail

April 16, 2009 - Received EAD in the mail

SEptember 4, 2009 - GREENCARD received

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You have a tough interview and you made it and handle yourself well..Congratulations! We wish all the best in your Married Life!

Your story gave us a lot of inspiration to stand for what is right and fair!

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frankly speaking, I think the co was emphasizing that you two were so much different especially when it comes to status in life. They are so used to seeing Filipinas marrying older men, or Filipinas from barrios marrying Americans. In short, for them, all Filipinas marrying Americans are just seeking better lives. So your case probably made them so curious.

When I was interviewed, the mean woman co asked me repeatedly how I could afford to go to the US so many times when she can't even do that.

Excellent insight here. I was thinking in similiar terms. Here you have a local "power-elite" Pinay, who is free to come to US on a tourist visa whenever she wants :blink: (I've never heard of this happening so I am very impressed.) Yes, the fact that the man is not at least 10 years older than she is atypical :lol: I thank her for being so open about her experience regarding the stokes interview process, and how they roll out the fat woman to put the pressure on with the "mad dogging" stares! :shocked: It seems to me they were saying, "Are you sure this is what you want? and just trying to protect her. Good luck in Stockton! :unsure:

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The fact that you paid for your fiancé's plane ticket a couple of times might have caused them to wonder whether you were paying him to help you get a visa, so they were extra hard on you, as others have said, to see if one of you would break and let something slip. But you held your own and made it through. Now you will have one more story to tell your grandchildren :) Congratulations on the visa, and best wishes.

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I admire your bravery and your love for your husband to be. THAT's the true filipina! :thumbs: may dugong Gabriela Silang heheh...people can try to intimidate us all they want but they can never bring us down. I wish you both all the best and happy marriage. God bless you! :)

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COs are not accustomed to dealing with pinay who have money and also are not subservient to them.

You having paid his way over would have been a red flag also. First time I ever heard of a pinay doing so.

As pushbrk mentioned: Get married ASAP and file to adjust status before the 90 days is up.

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I admire your bravery and your love for your husband to be. THAT's the true filipina! :thumbs: may dugong Gabriela Silang heheh...people can try to intimidate us all they want but they can never bring us down. I wish you both all the best and happy marriage. God bless you! :)

Hi thank you very much! It feels good to hear from a fellow pinay who can relate to my experience. My fiance is a very shy type of person, he doesn't quarrel and cries instead when something bothers him. It breaks my heart to see him confused and humiliated like that he's not into arguments since he was a kid and will not make a decision without asking me so from the time he became my boyfriend i see to it sure he's comfortable, back him up if needed, and protect him from anything/anyone that can hurt his feelings.

Nice to see your wedding pictures! Can't wait to have my own set of wedding pictures real soon.. :star:

~*~*~Nikki and Paul~*~*~

08/15/2006 - Met and became friends at starbucks in bay area

08/25/2006 - Fiance proposed his love (tsk tsk too fast!).

08/26/2006 - I was back in the Philippines. We started to get to know each other more online.

12/10/2006 - Officially became lovers

12/15/2006 - Holiday visit in the US - 15 days

05/19/2007 - Fiance's 1st visit in the Philippines - 12 days

12/10/2007 - Holiday visit in the US - 14 days

06/19/2008 - Fiance's 2nd visit in the Philippines - 11 days

12/10/2008 - Fiance's 3rd visit (surprise) in the Philippines - 25 days

12/15/2008 - Engagement

12/16/2008 - Received blessings from my family

12/17/2008 - Received blessings from fiance's parents thru skype video chat

05/19/2009 - Fiance's 3rd visit in the Philippines

11/07/2009 - Fiance's 4th visit in the Philippines. He wanted to come with me in the interview.

01/03/2009 - Fiance filled out and sent the I-129F.

03/12/2009 - NOA1 sent

03/18/2009 - NOA1 received

06/22/2009 - NOA2 sent

06/26/2009 - NOA2 received

10/09/2009 - Packet 3 forms sent to consulate

11/12/2009 - Unforgettable interview at US Embassy Manila *Approved*

a little almost there bebe...

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frankly speaking, I think the co was emphasizing that you two were so much different especially when it comes to status in life. They are so used to seeing Filipinas marrying older men, or Filipinas from barrios marrying Americans. In short, for them, all Filipinas marrying Americans are just seeking better lives. So your case probably made them so curious.

When I was interviewed, the mean woman co asked me repeatedly how I could afford to go to the US so many times when she can't even do that.

LOL! Sorry I would have a problem with some of these questions and probably never get a visa! OMG what I could answer to that!

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COs are not accustomed to dealing with pinay who have money and also are not subservient to them.

You having paid his way over would have been a red flag also. First time I ever heard of a pinay doing so.

As pushbrk mentioned: Get married ASAP and file to adjust status before the 90 days is up.

I'm sorry but i can't see the logic why it could be a red flag for those COs. My fiance made 4 visits and yes i paid for the 3 of them but they should have at least considered the things he paid for such as the ticket for his surprise visit and wedding ring. He applied for a 2nd job when we got engaged and and was able to present his own bank account it doesn't have much but it shows he was saving money in a regular basis. We're now under the impression that it's the "money" that matters during immigration and it made me feel sorry for the other sincere fiances that can't reunite with their fiancees due to financial issues.

And yes we'll get married right away thank you very much!

~*~*~Nikki and Paul~*~*~

08/15/2006 - Met and became friends at starbucks in bay area

08/25/2006 - Fiance proposed his love (tsk tsk too fast!).

08/26/2006 - I was back in the Philippines. We started to get to know each other more online.

12/10/2006 - Officially became lovers

12/15/2006 - Holiday visit in the US - 15 days

05/19/2007 - Fiance's 1st visit in the Philippines - 12 days

12/10/2007 - Holiday visit in the US - 14 days

06/19/2008 - Fiance's 2nd visit in the Philippines - 11 days

12/10/2008 - Fiance's 3rd visit (surprise) in the Philippines - 25 days

12/15/2008 - Engagement

12/16/2008 - Received blessings from my family

12/17/2008 - Received blessings from fiance's parents thru skype video chat

05/19/2009 - Fiance's 3rd visit in the Philippines

11/07/2009 - Fiance's 4th visit in the Philippines. He wanted to come with me in the interview.

01/03/2009 - Fiance filled out and sent the I-129F.

03/12/2009 - NOA1 sent

03/18/2009 - NOA1 received

06/22/2009 - NOA2 sent

06/26/2009 - NOA2 received

10/09/2009 - Packet 3 forms sent to consulate

11/12/2009 - Unforgettable interview at US Embassy Manila *Approved*

a little almost there bebe...

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COs are not accustomed to dealing with pinay who have money and also are not subservient to them.

You having paid his way over would have been a red flag also. First time I ever heard of a pinay doing so.

As pushbrk mentioned: Get married ASAP and file to adjust status before the 90 days is up.

I'm sorry but i can't see the logic why it could be a red flag for those COs. My fiance made 4 visits and yes i paid for the 3 of them but they should have at least considered the things he paid for such as the ticket for his surprise visit and wedding ring. He applied for a 2nd job when we got engaged and and was able to present his own bank account it doesn't have much but it shows he was saving money in a regular basis. We're now under the impression that it's the "money" that matters during immigration and it made me feel sorry for the other sincere fiances that can't reunite with their fiancees due to financial issues.

And yes we'll get married right away thank you very much!

People in PI that are scammers pay US citizens to bring them or their relatives to the US. Having a beneficiary pay for the petitioners plane fare to the Philippines is EXTREMELY rare and would surely have a CO sceptical.

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K1 denied, K3/K4, CR-1/CR-2, AOS, ROC, Adoption, US citizenship and dual citizenship

!! ALL PAU!

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Ok. I'm not exaggerating things here but 90% of his questions are weird, funny and pointless. His first set of questions consisted of my fiance's age, birthday, zodiac sign, school, previous relationship, siblings, pets, house, body tattoo. He stopped typing then proceed to the second set of questions. I noticed he started to speak slowly and changed tone and looked real serious and that made him look like he was confronting me for some kind of crime. Well, we eventually had a small confrontation when he asked (in a very sarcastic tone) if i am aware of my fiance's eye problem,

I'm curious how the CO would know the answers to the parts I left bolded? How did he know about your BF's eye? Or the other information that isn't revealed normally in the application/petition?

Sorry if that's been revealed in past posts, I didn't look.

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