Romanian Girl vs. Kirk Cameron

[one...two...tree 2,762]

[_Simpson_ 250]

Interesting watch, just hit the mute button.

[BishopMnA 0]

I really really really do not dig that whole 'walk up to you on the street and stick a microphone in your face thingie' that Cameron and that other yahoo do...but nonetheless...the chick just seems pissed!

[Jenn! 918]

Here's the introduction to the copy of Origin of Species Kirk will be handing out: http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

[Heracles 417]

She's from where?

Edited September 22, 2009 by Booyah!

[BishopMnA 0]

Here's the introduction to the copy of Origin of Species Kirk will be handing out: http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

That entire 'creationism' thingie is hard to buy in to... But, I know they have built a museum and I must admit to being strangely drawn to visit it...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Here's the introduction to the copy of Origin of Species Kirk will be handing out: http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

That entire 'creationism' thingie is hard to buy in to... But, I know they have built a museum and I must admit to being strangely drawn to visit it...

Mark - may I ask what religion you belong to?

[BishopMnA 0]

I am cradle Catholic, but I graduated from a Protestant University. Its interesting, because in the university, I decided to take a class on Genesis. So...the professor started going through it...and...it just seemed different than the Genesis I'd grown up with...then, early in Genesis we have the account of Noah's Ark, and the professor stated that Noah could fit all the dinosaurs on the Ark because they were 'baby dinosaurs, not too big yet.'

Anyways, it was a fantastic class and a great experience...and a great university.

Peace,

M

[Jenn! 918]

Here's the introduction to the copy of Origin of Species Kirk will be handing out: http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

That entire 'creationism' thingie is hard to buy in to... But, I know they have built a museum and I must admit to being strangely drawn to visit it...

I've only skimmed it, but the main arguments seem to be lack of transitional form fossils, the complexity of eyes, skepticism at the claim that if you give a bunch of monkeys enough time and typewriters they will eventually recreate Shakespeare, attacks on Darwin's character, some Hitler quotes, tying everything together with a pitch for Christianity being the true religion.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I am cradle Catholic, but I graduated from a Protestant University. Its interesting, because in the university, I decided to take a class on Genesis. So...the professor started going through it...and...it just seemed different than the Genesis I'd grown up with...then, early in Genesis we have the account of Noah's Ark, and the professor stated that Noah could fit all the dinosaurs on the Ark because they were 'baby dinosaurs, not too big yet.'

Anyways, it was a fantastic class and a great experience...and a great university.

Peace,

M

Interesting. I grew up Catholic as well.

[BishopMnA 0]

Here's the introduction to the copy of Origin of Species Kirk will be handing out: http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

That entire 'creationism' thingie is hard to buy in to... But, I know they have built a museum and I must admit to being strangely drawn to visit it...

I've only skimmed it, but the main arguments seem to be lack of transitional form fossils, the complexity of eyes, skepticism at the claim that if you give a bunch of monkeys enough time and typewriters they will eventually recreate Shakespeare, attacks on Darwin's character, some Hitler quotes, tying everything together with a pitch for Christianity being the true religion.

Good points Jenn, but the scientific stuff is secondary evidence for the Creationist. The real premise for creationism is the Bible itself, which creationists take literally. And in the bible, there is no mention of evolution.

Another strange thing from my Genesis class at my Protestant university...the professor was talking about the snake's temptation of Eve...and he said that back at that time, snakes could speak (literally!), and apparently they could speak in a language the Eve could understand. So, this was a literal conversation, not a metaphysical experience between snake/Eve.

Anyways, I really enjoyed studying the fundamental approach to the Bible, but in the end, I found that it took the mystery out of God...and that took some of the fun out of it, for me anyways...

Peace,

MarkNAam

[Laveau 67]

She's very well-spoken. And I love her hair!

ETA: Eve must have been a witch who spoke parseltongue (sp?).

Edited September 22, 2009 by Shal

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Here's the introduction to the copy of Origin of Species Kirk will be handing out: http://assets.livingwaters.com/pdf/OriginofSpecies.pdf

That entire 'creationism' thingie is hard to buy in to... But, I know they have built a museum and I must admit to being strangely drawn to visit it...

I've only skimmed it, but the main arguments seem to be lack of transitional form fossils, the complexity of eyes, skepticism at the claim that if you give a bunch of monkeys enough time and typewriters they will eventually recreate Shakespeare, attacks on Darwin's character, some Hitler quotes, tying everything together with a pitch for Christianity being the true religion.

Good points Jenn, but the scientific stuff is secondary evidence for the Creationist. The real premise for creationism is the Bible itself, which creationists take literally. And in the bible, there is no mention of evolution.

Another strange thing from my Genesis class at my Protestant university...the professor was talking about the snake's temptation of Eve...and he said that back at that time, snakes could speak (literally!), and apparently they could speak in a language the Eve could understand. So, this was a literal conversation, not a metaphysical experience between snake/Eve.

Anyways, I really enjoyed studying the fundamental approach to the Bible, but in the end, I found that it took the mystery out of God...and that took some of the fun out of it, for me anyways...

Peace,

MarkNAam

You hit the nail on the head there, Mark. I really believe the only way to confront Creationists is argue with them over their literal understanding of the Book of Genesis. Fortunately, there are a lot of Christian churches in America that don't take such a literal approach to story of Creation, but there's a group of these Evolution deniers (Flat Earthers) that will go from small church to small church, telling the congregation about the lies and evilness of the Theory of Evolution. They have pitted science against religion and framed it as such, confusing and scaring church goers that they must choose between God and science.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

omfg... has this idiot listened to himself? ever????

[Mark&Steph 0]

You guys should watch that Banana - The Atheist's Nightmare presentation that Kirk and his friend do.