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Florida GOP Chairman Jim Greer said he has no regrets about accusing the president of spreading 'liberal lies' before Greer even knew what Obama was going to say.

Scott Maxwell, Orlando Sentinel

There once was a political operative who loved to tell crowds he had a simple way of explaining to children the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

"Republicans get up and go to work," he would tell his son. "Democrats get up and go down to the mailbox to get their checks."

This man not only talked to his son about Republican values, he went into public-school classrooms and talked about them as well.

That man is Jim Greer — the same Jim Greer who, as chairman of the Republican Party of Florida, just threw a nationwide hissy fit, claiming that the classroom is no place for politics and Barack Obama's "indoctrination."

One Seminole County mother, Barbara Wells, remembers the day Greer spoke to her son's sixth-grade class. "My son said he made some sort of Hillary Clinton joke," she recalled.

But you know what? Wells didn't pitch a fit.

She didn't call up the local TV station to scream about Republican indoctrination.

Instead, she advised her son: "Whatever you are told in life, remember there are two sides to every story."

In fact, Wells didn't even think much about Greer's foray into her son's classroom until she saw him on TV complaining about Obama.

There's no longer any question: Greer is a hypocrite.

What remains to be seen, however, is whether mainstream Republicans in Florida will allow him to drag them deeper into the divisive and irrational fringes of their party.

Mainstream conservatives, after all, are being left behind.

While they want to talk about real issues, like out-of-control spending, they are forced to watch their state "leader" make a buffoon out of himself in the national spotlight. This just two weeks after a former House speaker was allowed to rack up $170,000 in GOP credit-card bills on Greer's watch.

This country needs a healthy two-party system with smart debate.

But there's nothing healthy or smart about Greer's claim that the president's pep talk about succeeding in school was really an attempt to "indoctrinate America's children to his socialist agenda."

Presidents have been talking to schoolchildren ever since we've had schools.

And not just presidents. Politicians of all stripes — from Govs. Jeb Bush and Lawton Chiles to Mayors Buddy Dyer and Rich Crotty.

In fact, as I sit here, rereading the previous two paragraphs, I find myself amazed that I even had to kill trees to print such obvious statements.

Are we really so far removed from reality that we don't understand the value of a president encouraging children to work hard?

One of the last times Obama spoke to schoolchildren, he said the following: "No one has written your destiny for you. Your destiny is in your hands. You cannot forget that."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/educat...,3762186.column

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You have a guy from a drug cartel / crime infested state yet his biggest concern is Obama's motivational speech to kids. What sort of idiots do you guys have as politicians in this country? seriously..

Just the other day I was watching a news report on a community in ruins, which looked like the footage was from a war torn third world country. Nope, it was located in the great state of Florida.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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You have a guy from a drug cartel / crime infested state yet his biggest concern is Obama's motivational speech to kids. What sort of idiots do you guys have as politicians in this country? seriously..

This selective outrage and blatant hypocrisy is just going to come back and bite the Republican Party on the #######. As long as buffoons like this schmuck continue to embarrass the party, and no prominent Republican leaders denounce this kind of nonsense, they'll further alienate themselves from mainstream Americans.

The Orlando Sentinel's Maxwell followed up on this with a sensible next step.

...I ran Greer's extremist statement by four high-profile Republicans: Gov. Charlie Crist, U.S. Rep. John Mica, State House Speaker-designate Dean Cannon and Orange County GOP leader Lew Oliver.

I chose conservative leaders whose positions I respect. And Crist, too.

I just wanted to see whether a single one had the guts to call Greer out and take a stand for mainstream values and rational debate.

Not a one of them did. And
that
is even scarier.

I don't doubt that grown-ups will one day help run the Republican Party. I just wish that day would hurry up.

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This selective outrage and blatant hypocrisy is just going to come back and bite the Republican Party on the #######. As long as buffoons like this schmuck continue to embarrass the party, and no prominent Republican leaders denounce this kind of nonsense, they'll further alienate themselves from mainstream Americans.

It's a joke. America is face a number of huge issues and obstacles a head of it yet you have these sorts of clowns wasting time on idiotic trivial matters. Then again I did here one of them point out that Obama doesn't use ketchup or mustard on a burger, therefore, this makes him some sort of freak. Right there you know what sort of an idiot you are dealing with.

You guys have an uphill battle in this country. There is always going to be someone who stands in the way of progress and improvement. Unfortunately international examples of success or countries that are not plagued with ghetto after ghetto, aka the poor, are overlooked.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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Ah ya, the Florida GOP. The same gentlemen that managed to run this state into the ground in just about every aspect of policy want to lecture anyone on how to do things right? Their recently ousted house speaker will stand trial for corruption soon. These guys are ridiculous.

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You have a guy from a drug cartel / crime infested state yet his biggest concern is Obama's motivational speech to kids. What sort of idiots do you guys have as politicians in this country? seriously..

This selective outrage and blatant hypocrisy is just going to come back and bite the Republican Party on the #######. As long as buffoons like this schmuck continue to embarrass the party, and no prominent Republican leaders denounce this kind of nonsense, they'll further alienate themselves from mainstream Americans.

The Orlando Sentinel's Maxwell followed up on this with a sensible next step.

...I ran Greer's extremist statement by four high-profile Republicans: Gov. Charlie Crist, U.S. Rep. John Mica, State House Speaker-designate Dean Cannon and Orange County GOP leader Lew Oliver.

I chose conservative leaders whose positions I respect. And Crist, too.

I just wanted to see whether a single one had the guts to call Greer out and take a stand for mainstream values and rational debate.

Not a one of them did. And
that
is even scarier.

I don't doubt that grown-ups will one day help run the Republican Party. I just wish that day would hurry up.

I think this as well. Even some Republican pundits are warning on-air about this backlash.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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I think this as well. Even some Republican pundits are warning on-air about this backlash.

This schmuck should be forced to resign his position. What a jackass.

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This country needs a healthy two-party system with smart debate.

This implies some type of opposing ideological difference among this two-party system. Unfortunately, Democrat and Republican views aren't antithetical of one another. Nevertheless, this system is presented to us as a false dichotomy, even though it's not really a dichotomy at all.

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This country needs a healthy two-party system with smart debate.

This implies some type of opposing ideological difference among this two-party system. Unfortunately, Democrat and Republican views aren't antithetical of one another. Nevertheless, this system is presented to us as a false dichotomy, even though it's not really a dichotomy at all.

I think this kind of thinking is mostly correct. Both 'sides' are mostly the same BS with a different color.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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Points well taken, Matt and HAL, but geezus, that totally ignores the real issue of the OP.

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Its obvious that OT is not really good on the most part, at keeping things in context.

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

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