Can the Obama Presidency be saved?

[The Dude 206]

Wasn't this a prisoner transfer and not a prisoner release?

[Peikko 1,575]

No, he refused the transfer and granted the compassionate release.

[The Dude 206]

No, he refused the transfer and granted the compassionate release.

Then I revert back to my reserved outrage

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Damn, my thread has been hijacked! Open your own Scottish Prime Minister is a lame-#### thread!

Edited August 25, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[The Dude 206]

[Peikko 1,575]

The Scottish Justice minister is supposed to make sure that the law is applied fairly and equitably; I'd like to know how many Scottish mass murderers have been released so soon for a merciful reasons ( terminal illness) per Scottish law.

*going to take a look*

edit-releasing this murderer -whilst legal-is an affront to all those who lost their lives and their families.

I think you have to be looking at the question backwards to view it that way. What is compassionate release? It's not a judgment on guilt or inocence or in fact a judgement on the crime or the nature of the criminal.

What it is is making a determination that a degree of mercy should be shown to any prisoner who is about to die from terminal illness, where that imminant death can be reasonably be foreseen. The real question the justice minister faced, was whether it could be reasonably determined that he was as far as is possible to tell medically within the last 3 months of life, or whether in fact there was any treatment available that would significantly prolong life.

Under no circumstances under Scottish law is any prisoner left to die in a prison cell without access to paliative care so the question becomes, should that paliative care take place within or without the prison system. Scottish law has deemed that in the circumstances when death is imminant, it is right for prisoners to be released rather than die in a prison hospital. If one looks at that with any degree of openmindedness rather being clouded by the heinous nature of the crime committed (which is obviously not an easy task, particulary if you are personaly involved to a greater or lesser extent) it is surely not beyond the wit of man to determine that such an act of mercy is not some sop to terrorism or terrorist regimes - no matter what way the winds of political expediency are blowing.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

[Peikko 1,575]

You're just jealous because I am not pissing on you!

[nowhereman 1]

[The Dude 206]

I think the mans actions are sufficiently depraved to not merit any compassion.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I think with other facts coming to light I'm not actually convinced it was his decision alone to make. I'm beginning to think he may have been a puppet.

[The Dude 206]

I think with other facts coming to light I'm not actually convinced it was his decision alone to make. I'm beginning to think he may have been a puppet.

Just because he had his thumb up his ####### does't mean he's a puppet

[Joseph & Ana 0]

You seriously haven't realized yet, that when Obama is criticized, either the topic is changed or they attack the poster?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Can I at least get a Mod to change the title to:"The Scottish Justice System Sucks", or something similar?

Edited August 25, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[The Dude 206]

You seriously haven't realized yet, that when Obama is criticized, either the topic is changed or they attack the poster?

You have 3 brain cells fighting over the same thought. Save them for something that matters neophyte.