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So what should we do then? State his employment or not? What do you think?

I would indicate the truth.... as far as I know they do not verify any previous employment

Yes we want to indicate the truth, but we're just afraid...Even if we get our visa, years and years down the road we are afraid he could be deported, because they could somehow say he lied on his forms. Do you think we should put an attachment, or get advice from the consultate?

Only if they discover his previous employment was somehow a disqualifying factor...an illegal drug dealer for instance. Otherwise you need not be afraid.

You are not lying if you state his job and they will not deport him because he did not pay taxes to the UK.

From what I have read, she isn't afraid of them stating his job or residence. Its the fact that his employer can't be traced and there is no record of him working there. Therefore they are afraid if they put this down it could be used now or years later against them in saying they lied about it on the forms. The residence issue, again from what I read is that it says on a database somewhere in the UK that her fiance wasn't living at his parents when he was and again if he states the truth then they could say h was lying again either now or in the future.

Some people need to worry I suppose. But lets take this from the top.

She should list his ACTUAL residence, if that is with his parents, the that is the TRUTH. That he LIED to the UK government is of NO CONCERN to the US government. If she wants to list BOTH addresses, she can do that also and state the time he lived there. Answer with the TRUTH regardless of what some paper in UK says. Same with jobs. State the TRUTH as best to your knowledge. If it cannot be verified because the employer did not report it, it is still the TRUTH. To my knowledge the US government makes no attempt to verify this and if they did...so what? His employer cheated the UK government, who cares? Certainly no one at USCIS.

This is much ado over absolutely nothing. I can state that I am SURE my wife's G-325 ommited some of her work history as given the circumstance of living in Ukraine it is probably not possible to have kept track of all the jobs in a 5 year period, both "black" money and "white" money jobs. Our son had TWO jobs (black money) while he was there visiting this summer for 2 months. He made some extra vacation cash selling cell phone cards at a kiosk and videos at a video store. Big deal. In 4-5 years he will have forgotten all about them and I am sure there is no record of it. And what? Our G-325 was filled out to the best our knowledge. It is way over thinking to even imagine anything you put on there needs to be verified by anyone.

E\veryone says to say the truth which I am not arguing she should or shouldn't but then you have a few people saying they know they ommitted info on the forms. I am really confused...doesn't it say on the forms not to ommit anything?? As you say it may not be verified or such but what if this was used ie signing under the penalty of perjury later on for basis to strip the person of their green card? As for verifying his employment, the USCIS probably couldn't as she said that his employer had as they say 'flown the coop'...

Sorry of this is rehashing :wacko:

My wife is here, she has her green card, I sleep well at night right next to her.

The OP should tell the truth to the best of her/his knowledge and sleep well also.

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So what should we do then? State his employment or not? What do you think?

I would indicate the truth.... as far as I know they do not verify any previous employment

Yes we want to indicate the truth, but we're just afraid...Even if we get our visa, years and years down the road we are afraid he could be deported, because they could somehow say he lied on his forms. Do you think we should put an attachment, or get advice from the consultate?

Only if they discover his previous employment was somehow a disqualifying factor...an illegal drug dealer for instance. Otherwise you need not be afraid.

You are not lying if you state his job and they will not deport him because he did not pay taxes to the UK.

From what I have read, she isn't afraid of them stating his job or residence. Its the fact that his employer can't be traced and there is no record of him working there. Therefore they are afraid if they put this down it could be used now or years later against them in saying they lied about it on the forms. The residence issue, again from what I read is that it says on a database somewhere in the UK that her fiance wasn't living at his parents when he was and again if he states the truth then they could say h was lying again either now or in the future.

Some people need to worry I suppose. But lets take this from the top.

She should list his ACTUAL residence, if that is with his parents, the that is the TRUTH. That he LIED to the UK government is of NO CONCERN to the US government. If she wants to list BOTH addresses, she can do that also and state the time he lived there. Answer with the TRUTH regardless of what some paper in UK says. Same with jobs. State the TRUTH as best to your knowledge. If it cannot be verified because the employer did not report it, it is still the TRUTH. To my knowledge the US government makes no attempt to verify this and if they did...so what? His employer cheated the UK government, who cares? Certainly no one at USCIS.

This is much ado over absolutely nothing. I can state that I am SURE my wife's G-325 ommited some of her work history as given the circumstance of living in Ukraine it is probably not possible to have kept track of all the jobs in a 5 year period, both "black" money and "white" money jobs. Our son had TWO jobs (black money) while he was there visiting this summer for 2 months. He made some extra vacation cash selling cell phone cards at a kiosk and videos at a video store. Big deal. In 4-5 years he will have forgotten all about them and I am sure there is no record of it. And what? Our G-325 was filled out to the best our knowledge. It is way over thinking to even imagine anything you put on there needs to be verified by anyone.

E\veryone says to say the truth which I am not arguing she should or shouldn't but then you have a few people saying they know they ommitted info on the forms. I am really confused...doesn't it say on the forms not to ommit anything?? As you say it may not be verified or such but what if this was used ie signing under the penalty of perjury later on for basis to strip the person of their green card? As for verifying his employment, the USCIS probably couldn't as she said that his employer had as they say 'flown the coop'...

Sorry of this is rehashing :wacko:

Yea, I too am confused to what people are saying. The people that say tell the truth which I will, also admit they technically 'lied' on their forms....isn't this perjury? Also, my fiances employer can't be traced as he did indeed 'fly the coop' lol we don't even know if hes in the country, changed his name or indeed even if that was his name etc so if he can't be traced would tis be viewed as lying

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just because there was an inaccuracy in our situation does not mean she lied or committed perjury....

Here is my wife's explanation as to how she filled out the form...

English is NOT her first language... She sees the section about Applicant's employment last five year (If none, state so)

She went to the dictionary and looked up the word employment. Here is the definition in her dictionary: employment; service: to be in someone's employ. To provide services for another.

As she understood it... She did NOT work for someone else... She worked for herself... therefore she was NOT employed...

She answered it to the best of her ability but it is "technically" inaccurate...

Also on the G-325a it says: Severe penalties are provided by law for knowingly and willingly falsifying or concealing a material fact.

If you think that the technical error that was made on the g-325a is a material fact then your opinion... IMO it is NOT... it was an honest to goodness mistake... I continue to sleep well at night....

mistakes, errors, etc... occur from time to time... despite this inaccuracy you still need to fill out the form accurately to the best of your ability...

YMMV

 
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