Harvard scholar's arrest raises profiling questions

[SMOKE 1,426]

so you don't know...ok thanks

I know more than I am willing to reveal OR discuss with virtual members of an immigration board. Just because I do not reveal small details about my life does not mean I am ignorant of specifics.

weak answer. you made a generalization & presented it as fact. now you won't answer how you know this to be fact....weak

I think we should all take Eric's claims at face value too.

i don't want eric's claims anywhere near my face.

[Fandango 1,440]

A good approach would've been, *knock Knock* "Someone reported suspicious behavior around here, we are going house to house to let everyone aware of the situation, are you ok? Nothing out of the norm you have experienced?" That is probably a good way to kindly ask questions.

How do you know that didn't happen?

By the time police arrived, Gates was already inside. Police say he refused to come outside to speak with an officer, who told him he was investigating a report of a break-in.

I don't know Cambridge all that well, but I will say my initial response is 'why the attitude when the cops got there?' I can imagine from the professor's standpoint he was annoyed that the cops were called...he prolly thinks 'oh someone aw a black man shoulder his way into the door, all of a sudden I'm a criminal' when the cops were only doing their jobs....I don't know about whatever database keeps getting mentioned, but seeing a certain car in the driveway doesn't do sh!t afaic..

Putting myself in his shoes, I'd be thankful that my neighborhood peeps were lookin out for me. *shrug*

Edited July 21, 2009 by Happy Bunny

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

so you don't know...ok thanks

I know more than I am willing to reveal OR discuss with virtual members of an immigration board. Just because I do not reveal small details about my life does not mean I am ignorant of specifics.

weak answer. you made a generalization & presented it as fact. now you won't answer how you know this to be fact....weak

I think we should all take Eric's claims at face value too.

i don't want eric's claims anywhere near my face.

:rofl:

[Kathryn41 3,207]

Please try to discuss this item without the name calling. I'm sure you can do it if you just tried.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Please try to discuss this item without the name calling. I'm sure you can do it if you just tried.

The VJ po-po is here, everyone be nice.

[HAL 9000 96]

A good approach would've been, *knock Knock* "Someone reported suspicious behavior around here, we are going house to house to let everyone aware of the situation, are you ok? Nothing out of the norm you have experienced?" That is probably a good way to kindly ask questions.

How do you know that didn't happen?

By the time police arrived, Gates was already inside. Police say he refused to come outside to speak with an officer, who told him he was investigating a report of a break-in.

I don't know Cambridge all that well, but I will say my initial response is 'why the attitude when the cops got there?' I can imagine from the professor's standpoint he was annoyed that the cops were called...he prolly thinks 'oh someone aw a black man shoulder his way into the door, all of a sudden I'm a criminal' when the cops were only doing their jobs....I don't know about whatever database keeps getting mentioned, but seeing a certain car in the driveway doesn't do sh!t afaic..

Putting myself in his shoes, I'd be thankful that my neighborhood peeps were lookin out for me. *shrug*

People are people. If having an attitude was suddenly cause for abuse of authority... half of the regular posters in this section of VJ would have been permanently banned ages ago.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

People are people. If having an attitude was suddenly cause for abuse of authority... half of the regular posters in this section of VJ would have been permanently banned ages ago.

You are not allowed to have an attitude with the po-po. You can throw a shoe at the President but God Forbid you tell a young blood cop to ** off.

[The_Dude 1,142]

A good approach would've been, *knock Knock* "Someone reported suspicious behavior around here, we are going house to house to let everyone aware of the situation, are you ok? Nothing out of the norm you have experienced?" That is probably a good way to kindly ask questions.

How do you know that didn't happen?

By the time police arrived, Gates was already inside. Police say he refused to come outside to speak with an officer, who told him he was investigating a report of a break-in.

I don't know Cambridge all that well, but I will say my initial response is 'why the attitude when the cops got there?' I can imagine from the professor's standpoint he was annoyed that the cops were called...he prolly thinks 'oh someone aw a black man shoulder his way into the door, all of a sudden I'm a criminal' when the cops were only doing their jobs....I don't know about whatever database keeps getting mentioned, but seeing a certain car in the driveway doesn't do sh!t afaic..

Putting myself in his shoes, I'd be thankful that my neighborhood peeps were lookin out for me. *shrug*

No, certainly, seeing a car in the driveway wouldn't do much. But that is not what police officers have access to when they run someones name, address, or driver's license through their database. They have a wide array of information about a person, place, or automobile. They should have known when they pulled up, who was the owner and who was the current resident of that address as well as a picture of their Mass. ID. I think that's more than enough information for them.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... as well as a picture of their Mass. ID.

C'mon now, you know all those people look alike.

[HAL 9000 96]

People are people. If having an attitude was suddenly cause for abuse of authority... half of the regular posters in this section of VJ would have been permanently banned ages ago.

You are not allowed to have an attitude with the po-po. You can throw a shoe at the President but God Forbid you tell a young blood cop to ** off.

Oh but if my fvckign 2nd amendment rights are put into question by the 50s... I'm taking badge numbers!!!

[Fandango 1,440]

A good approach would've been, *knock Knock* "Someone reported suspicious behavior around here, we are going house to house to let everyone aware of the situation, are you ok? Nothing out of the norm you have experienced?" That is probably a good way to kindly ask questions.

How do you know that didn't happen?

By the time police arrived, Gates was already inside. Police say he refused to come outside to speak with an officer, who told him he was investigating a report of a break-in.

I don't know Cambridge all that well, but I will say my initial response is 'why the attitude when the cops got there?' I can imagine from the professor's standpoint he was annoyed that the cops were called...he prolly thinks 'oh someone aw a black man shoulder his way into the door, all of a sudden I'm a criminal' when the cops were only doing their jobs....I don't know about whatever database keeps getting mentioned, but seeing a certain car in the driveway doesn't do sh!t afaic..

Putting myself in his shoes, I'd be thankful that my neighborhood peeps were lookin out for me. *shrug*

People are people. If having an attitude was suddenly cause for abuse of authority... half of the regular posters in this section of VJ would have been permanently banned ages ago.

I'm not talking about VJ, I'm talking about the scenario as mentioned....cops show up at door...investigating a break in..can I see some id? Knowing he just shouldered his way into his home should make him realize the situation that someone thought there was a break in...ok, produce id, thanks for comin out...bye. Why refuse to show id? Cman, you realize how that looks to a cop?

I'm no fan of the police dept, and I do think they abuse their powers quite often...however, in this scenario...the initial problem IMO did not come from them.

[The_Dude 1,142]

... as well as a picture of their Mass. ID.

C'mon now, you know all those people look alike.

I thought it was all white people looked alike

[SMOKE 1,426]

... as well as a picture of their Mass. ID.

C'mon now, you know all those people look alike.

your next name change needs to be Gold Standard.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

... as well as a picture of their Mass. ID.

C'mon now, you know all those people look alike.

I thought it was all white people looked alike

That too.

[The_Dude 1,142]

A good approach would've been, *knock Knock* "Someone reported suspicious behavior around here, we are going house to house to let everyone aware of the situation, are you ok? Nothing out of the norm you have experienced?" That is probably a good way to kindly ask questions.

How do you know that didn't happen?

By the time police arrived, Gates was already inside. Police say he refused to come outside to speak with an officer, who told him he was investigating a report of a break-in.

I don't know Cambridge all that well, but I will say my initial response is 'why the attitude when the cops got there?' I can imagine from the professor's standpoint he was annoyed that the cops were called...he prolly thinks 'oh someone aw a black man shoulder his way into the door, all of a sudden I'm a criminal' when the cops were only doing their jobs....I don't know about whatever database keeps getting mentioned, but seeing a certain car in the driveway doesn't do sh!t afaic..

Putting myself in his shoes, I'd be thankful that my neighborhood peeps were lookin out for me. *shrug*

People are people. If having an attitude was suddenly cause for abuse of authority... half of the regular posters in this section of VJ would have been permanently banned ages ago.

I'm not talking about VJ, I'm talking about the scenario as mentioned....cops show up at door...investigating a break in..can I see some id? Knowing he just shouldered his way into his home should make him realize the situation that someone thought there was a break in...ok, produce id, thanks for comin out...bye. Why refuse to show id? Cman, you realize how that looks to a cop?

I'm no fan of the police dept, and I do think they abuse their powers quite often...however, in this scenario...the initial problem IMO did not come from them.