"Drive out the curry munching idiots, make Australia clean"

[Heracles 417]

Sorry we are not all they same. Far from it actually.

Please expound, I find your views fascinating.

"Views"? It is called research. It is called culture.

I posted this a while back.

Psychology journal: As humans we essentially little alike. What we are alike in (in a broad sense) is that we all have feelings, likes, dislikes, values, attitudes, goals, beliefs etc. But individual and cultural differences are great. As an individual we have different personality, abilities, intelligence, ambition, motivations, priorities, values expectations etc. Attributes that are further defined by our environment, our community and even heredity (innate). So the assumption that we are all equal, that is, we all think the same is incorrect and false.

That is the part of culture, which you guys confuse for race, that you and your buddies here grossly fail to comprehend.

When criminality runs in the veins, you get to be good at it. It goes undetected. Bravo.

So that isn't racist is it..

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[EstebanTrabajos 7]

It is called Wikipedia

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Your copy-paste skills impress me.

Now take that and use it to spec out your two-tier nation. Identify components of each tier and describe to us how they interact with each other.

I wait with bated breath.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Saying that people are culturally different is not the same as saying "we're not all equal"

For something to be "equal" it has to be relative to something else (like saying "I have the same amount of cake that you do")

[almaty 19]

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Your copy-paste skills impress me.

Now take that and use it to spec out your two-tier nation. Identify components of each tier and describe to us how they interact with each other.

I wait with bated breath.

*Jeopardy music playing in the back*

[Heracles 417]

Now take that and use it to spec out your two-tier nation. Identify components of each tier and describe to us how they interact with each other.

I suggested that now did I. If six says I said it, then hey I must have said it. Do they same to six, "No I never said that!"

Saying that people are culturally different is not the same as saying "we're not all equal"

For something to be "equal" it has to be relative to something else (like saying "I have the same amount of cake that you do")

Well I can take your definition of equal too. Is Affirmative Action equal? Where someone is admitted into a school or position, not on the basis of their merits, but due to the color of their skin.

Is that "equal" is it?

It is called Wikipedia

I am waiting for your pwned comment. You're got at that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Now take that and use it to spec out your two-tier nation. Identify components of each tier and describe to us how they interact with each other.

I suggested that now did I. If six says I said it, then hey I must have said it. Do they same to six, "No I never said that!"

Well do you believe that "certain immigrant cultures" should have diminished rights?

If the answer is yes - then you believe in a two-tier nation.

If no, then you don't.

Well I can take your definition of equal too. Is Affirmative Action equal? Where someone is admitted into a school or position, not on the basis of their merits, but due to the color of their skin.

Is that "equal" is it?

No it isn't "equal". But it isn't "superior" either.

[Heracles 417]

Now take that and use it to spec out your two-tier nation. Identify components of each tier and describe to us how they interact with each other.

I suggested that now did I. If six says I said it, then hey I must have said it. Do they same to six, "No I never said that!"

Well do you believe that "certain immigrant cultures" should have diminished rights?

If the answer is yes - then you believe in a two-tier nation.

If no, then you don't.

Yes being that my folks were immigrants themselves and subjected to racism, yes I by default must agree in a two-tier system. Makes a lot of sense.

Well I can take your definition of equal too. Is Affirmative Action equal? Where someone is admitted into a school or position, not on the basis of their merits, but due to the color of their skin.

Is that "equal" is it?

No it isn't "equal". But it isn't "superior" either.

So as a true minority that you and I are in America, do we get preferential treatment? Or do I have to basically be black or Hispanic?

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Now take that and use it to spec out your two-tier nation. Identify components of each tier and describe to us how they interact with each other.

I suggested that now did I. If six says I said it, then hey I must have said it. Do they same to six, "No I never said that!"

Well do you believe that "certain immigrant cultures" should have diminished rights?

If the answer is yes - then you believe in a two-tier nation.

If no, then you don't.

Yes being that my folks were immigrants themselves and subjected to racism, yes I by default must agree in a two-tier system. Makes a lot of sense.

Its only "two-tier" if the government endorses it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Double-post

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[mawilson 2,133]

Well do you believe that "certain immigrant cultures" should have diminished rights?

If the answer is yes - then you believe in a two-tier nation.

Well there would be no need for a two-tier system if you could kick the foreigners out of the country,

which is what I suspect the "Clean Australia" folks want to do.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well I can take your definition of equal too. Is Affirmative Action equal? Where someone is admitted into a school or position, not on the basis of their merits, but due to the color of their skin.

Is that "equal" is it?

No it isn't "equal". But it isn't "superior" either.

So as a true minority that you and I are in America, do we get preferential treatment? Or do I have to basically be black or Hispanic?

We don't get preferential treatment, no.

But we're LPRs. Different rules apply.

LPRs are the recipients of a two-tier system.

[Heracles 417]

Its only "two-tier" if the government endorses it.

So based on Australia being ranked forth, when considering the human development index, does it sound like they have a two-tier system.

The only two-tier system around here is the US. Where if you are not Hispanic or a Minority, you are basically made to feel like you are a nobody. As a country of 21 million, Australia has achieved more than both Hispanics and African (85 million) Americans combined. Yes, even when considering that the first batch was exiled to death by the the UK. Want an example, the $180 million dollars worth of swine flu vaccines the US government is buying from there. We earned our respect in this world and certainly not from gang banging.

We don't get preferential treatment, no.

But we're LPRs. Different rules apply.

LPRs are the recipients of a two-tier system.

Does a white south African who is a citizen of the unites States get to apply for affirmative action?

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its only "two-tier" if the government endorses it.

So based on Australia being ranked forth, when considering the human development index, does it sound like they have a two-tier system.

The only two-tier system around here is the US. Where if you are not Hispanic or a Minority, you are basically made to feel like you are a nobody. As a country of 21 million, Australia has achieved more than both Hispanics and African Americans combined. Yes, even when considering that the first batch was exiled to death by the the UK. Want an example, the $180 million dollars worth of swine flu vaccines the US government is buying from there.

I didn't suggest that Australia had a two tier system.

It arose out of your comment that "we are not all equal". I posed a question to you - nothing more.

Does a white south African who is a citizen of the unites States get to apply for affirmative action?

I honestly don't know.

I do doubt, however that millions of people are adversely affected by affirmative action.