Ilocano vs Visayas Where most bar girls come from?

[Rocky_nBullwinkle 6]

This thread is getting way too personal, and should be closed and made invisible.

[RonMay 1]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

you dont get it do you??? people posting here, trying to make reasons and yet still here you are just "trolling" a long hoping some fishes will take your bait... dude, its not about visayan, or which ever planet you're referring to. its about the irrational, illogical, absurd, fallacious comment or post you made. i know you're not stupid, maybe plain insensitive but you're not stupid. you've been planning this thread just to create chaos... that's fine i guess, but choose another "fun" topic to talk about...

oh well, then again, who am i talking to... to some walls maybe

Edited April 6, 2009 by RonMay

[Tahoma 2,291]

Ho hum...yet more sweeping generalizations and prejudices unsupported by any facts.

The only education needed here is yours. I would encourage you, on your next visit to the Philippines, to spend less time sitting in bars. Instead, you could volunteer at an orphanage, or perform community service in a poor barangay. This would be educational indeed.

~ Tahoma

hahahahahaha, its always funny to me how you can see this as being wrong or offending. Why not just say you dont agree or think this is true? By trying to be sarcastic you are actually giving validity to the post itself....lol....thanks for that...lol

How is it that you think your sweeping generalizations and prejudices are not wrong or offending? Maybe you would like to stay on topic and explain that to everyone. In case you hadn't noticed, it is not only me who thinks you are one sandwich short of a picnic.

You really don't get it do you? It is not a matter of saying that I agree or disagree with you. It's not a matter of of whether I think it's true or not. It is a matter of you making unsupported claims and sweeping generalizations that you refuse to explain. Where is your evidence to back your claims? Cite your sources.

It is always the sign of a failed argument when someone changes the subject, or when they try to laugh it off.

~ Tahoma

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

Guys, I think he doesnt really mean any harm....he's a person from another country..so he doesnt know what is really going on in the Philippines..

Chill guys, just clarify to him what he needs to know....dont argue.

And to the starter of this thread: Before putting up a thread like this, be sure that you wouldnt hurt any single person..This is a Philippine Forum, and your thread is about Pinay's working in the bar...So,take that consequence! You should have ask your wife first on this....she is a filipina, and she knows what we might feel.

OH! I ddnt know that it was the wife who started the thread....sorry, my bad! I guess you should know what we feel....

I have not referenced any one person in my post.

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

Yea I also heard that also about visayan ladies as well....lol

[=FoxyBLUE= 2]

Guys, I think he doesnt really mean any harm....he's a person from another country..so he doesnt know what is really going on in the Philippines..

Chill guys, just clarify to him what he needs to know....dont argue.

And to the starter of this thread: Before putting up a thread like this, be sure that you wouldnt hurt any single person..This is a Philippine Forum, and your thread is about Pinay's working in the bar...So,take that consequence! You should have ask your wife first on this....she is a filipina, and she knows what we might feel.

OH! I ddnt know that it was the wife who started the thread....sorry, my bad! I guess you should know what we feel....

I have not referenced any one person in my post.

NO! I was trying to say that before putting up a thread like this....be sure NOT to hurt any single person. see how they all reacted?

[o0pink0o 3]

So what is the purpose of creating a thread like this?

Well just noting the differences and the diversity of Philippine culture. Thre are many different types and we often put all filipinas in one bucket. But now I see that their is a big difference. Like I am being told mostly the girls in the clubs are Visayan.

I can't believe you do not see that you are judging/belittling an entire population by the actions of a few of its members and justifying it by saying it is to make the rest of the population of the Philippines look better..Some have said that black men do not like to work like the other Americans but I did not post a thread attesting to the truth of it..BECAUSE I AM SURE THAT NOT ALL BLACK MEN ARE LAZY AND THAT ALL THE OTHER RACES ALSO HAVE THEIR LAZY MEMBERS.

Are you stoned? or just stupid? Greg (Pink's husband) & o0pink0o

Well I dont see anything wrong with saying something that they think is true....I don't think its anything wrong with saying that most black men dont like work, or that they are in prison, in fact there is alot of truth to this in many places in America. I am me, so why should I care about what people think of black men. If it dont stick to me, then why think its offending? You think I am gonna defend all black men.....lol or all Americans? Sorry I am not tribal...So why would you try to defend all filipinos, visayan, ilocano/a etc....?? i have not pointed a finger at any individual person...so why is your hair raised?

I am offended by all intolerance and ignorance that is spewed that hurts another..or others...whether its physical or mental or whatever...just because YOU dont feel its wrong doesnt mean it it doesnt hurt others..this OBVIOUSLY WAS gonna hurt people..Neither my wife nor I are Visayan, I am, of course, American..but what you said was offensive to us both...Rodney Kings beating was offensive to us as well..Any generalization of a people in a negative light is offensive to others......if they are tolerant and want peace with their brothers and sisters and truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own actions no matter what hole they had to crawl out of..everyone has a story and people are not THE SAME because they came from the same neighborhood..That's all the enlightenment i care to give you...I won't waste my time further on your gibberish...

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

I am guessing you are Visayan and also worked as a bargirl, di ba?

[=FoxyBLUE= 2]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

I am guessing you are Visayan and also worked as a bargirl, di ba?

Ano ba naman yan Mykuls! I was trying to help you out na nga for them to understand you why you start this thread...nakikipag-away ka pa!

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

Ahhhh...caught me a liberal.....lol

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

I am guessing you are Visayan and also worked as a bargirl, di ba?

Ano ba naman yan Mykuls! I was trying to help you out na nga for them to understand you why you start this thread...nakikipag-away ka pa!

I know what you were trying to do, but I have been doing this for a long time. I know you are trying to protect me from the onslaught, thank you, but of course I have know for a long time that some issues are hard for some to deal with. So I am used to it, but thanks anyway!

[=FoxyBLUE= 2]

[Tahoma 2,291]

So what is the purpose of creating a thread like this?

Well just noting the differences and the diversity of Philippine culture. Thre are many different types and we often put all filipinas in one bucket. But now I see that their is a big difference. Like I am being told mostly the girls in the clubs are Visayan.

I can't believe you do not see that you are judging/belittling an entire population by the actions of a few of its members and justifying it by saying it is to make the rest of the population of the Philippines look better..Some have said that black men do not like to work like the other Americans but I did not post a thread attesting to the truth of it..BECAUSE I AM SURE THAT NOT ALL BLACK MEN ARE LAZY AND THAT ALL THE OTHER RACES ALSO HAVE THEIR LAZY MEMBERS.

Are you stoned? or just stupid? Greg (Pink's husband) & o0pink0o

Well I dont see anything wrong with saying something that they think is true....I don't think its anything wrong with saying that most black men dont like work, or that they are in prison, in fact there is alot of truth to this in many places in America. I am me, so why should I care about what people think of black men. If it dont stick to me, then why think its offending? You think I am gonna defend all black men.....lol or all Americans? Sorry I am not tribal...So why would you try to defend all filipinos, visayan, ilocano/a etc....?? i have not pointed a finger at any individual person...so why is your hair raised?

I am offended by all intolerance and ignorance that is spewed that hurts another..or others...whether its physical or mental or whatever...just because YOU dont feel its wrong doesnt mean it it doesnt hurt others..this OBVIOUSLY WAS gonna hurt people..Neither my wife nor I are Visayan, I am, of course, American..but what you said was offensive to us both...Rodney Kings beating was offensive to us as well..Any generalization of a people in a negative light is offensive to others......if they are tolerant and want peace with their brothers and sisters and truly believe that everyone is responsible for their own actions no matter what hole they had to crawl out of..everyone has a story and people are not THE SAME because they came from the same neighborhood..That's all the enlightenment i care to give you...I won't waste my time further on your gibberish...

Well said Greg...

One thing I would add is that the OP is not ignorant. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant. That means that you simply don't know something. Instead, he is wilfully ignorant. He has every opportunity to listen and learn (and even respond with something resembling rational thought), yet he chooses not to.

"Gibberish" is too polite of a word to describe his #######.

~ Tahoma

[Jeanycnd 0]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

I am guessing you are Visayan and also worked as a bargirl, di ba?

Oh really?HOw sure you are?how about your girl?Maybe shes the one work in the bar.And im not also too desperate to work in the bar.My parents make good money in the PI and they teach us to respect other people and to respect ourself.And they don't teach to judge people or understimate other people lives

[Rocky_nBullwinkle 6]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

I am guessing you are Visayan and also worked as a bargirl, di ba?

Ano ba naman yan Mykuls! I was trying to help you out na nga for them to understand you why you start this thread...nakikipag-away ka pa!