When Legally Considered US Citizen?

[ishack1956 0]

I've run into this problem as well. I used to have a 'special access' clearance for years and was able to do a lot of consulting work for defense contractors . Once I married a non-citizen the clearance was pull immed. and there went that type of work. My ex-wife and my current wife are both from Malaysia and Malaysia doesn't allow dual citizenship and neither of them would even in their wildest dreams would consider giving up their citizenship. We plan to to retire overseas for a number of reasons, so it makes sense for my wife not give up her citizenship. Besides she's a retired govt employee, and if she gives up her citizenship it would cost her any cost of living increases on her pension.

I've known of at least two cases of Malaysians that did become USC's for security clearance reasons, and the Malaysian govt voided their passports as soon as they were informed. Thus I can understand why my wife wouldn't consider it.

[AaronLV 12]

I've run into this problem as well. I used to have a 'special access' clearance for years and was able to do a lot of consulting work for defense contractors . Once I married a non-citizen the clearance was pull immed. and there went that type of work. My ex-wife and my current wife are both from Malaysia and Malaysia doesn't allow dual citizenship and neither of them would even in their wildest dreams would consider giving up their citizenship. We plan to to retire overseas for a number of reasons, so it makes sense for my wife not give up her citizenship. Besides she's a retired govt employee, and if she gives up her citizenship it would cost her any cost of living increases on her pension.

I've known of at least two cases of Malaysians that did become USC's for security clearance reasons, and the Malaysian govt voided their passports as soon as they were informed. Thus I can understand why my wife wouldn't consider it.

How did the Malaysian govt even know they became US Citizens? It isn't like the US reports them to their country. I know many Thai's that have both a US & Thai passport, they just never show them together.

I am also surprised your clearance was pulled. You actually have grounds for a law suit. They cannot do that without granting a hearing. There may have been other circumstances surrounding why your access was revoked, and that could be the fact that your wife used to work for the Malaysian government. I can tell you for a fact that is not normal just because you marry a non-usc that your access is revoked. I know many people who have married non-usc's and still have their clearances.

[ishack1956 0]

How did the Malaysian govt even know they became US Citizens? It isn't like the US reports them to their country. I know many Thai's that have both a US & Thai passport, they just never show them together.

I am also surprised your clearance was pulled. You actually have grounds for a law suit. They cannot do that without granting a hearing. There may have been other circumstances surrounding why your access was revoked, and that could be the fact that your wife used to work for the Malaysian government. I can tell you for a fact that is not normal just because you marry a non-usc that your access is revoked. I know many people who have married non-usc's and still have their clearances.

I don't know how the Malaysian govt found out in their cases, but I know they did. In the case of my clearance being pulled = I was living overseas teaching for two years, and when I came back it needed to be 'updated' After that it was never reinstated, but remember that I was only doing consulting work and not working for the company. It may have been a case of cost to update a clearance for someone that had been living overseas for a number of years and married a non-USC. I didn't pursue it. That was about 12 years ago, and some of the rules have changed since then. I remember when I was in the AF we had a 1st Sgt that married a Filipino, and his was pulled. Thus he wasn't even allowed in the ops building afterwards. Again that was 30 years ago. Another part of it maybe the type of clearances we had.

Edited April 3, 2009 by ishack1956