Leftie freaks going on bus rides to AIG exec homes

[HAL 9000 96]

Oh snap how selective the rage.

[Danno 1,228]

Nothing. I believe in America and that we will solve our problems. I don't sit and wait and hope that the government fails just because the person I voted for didn't get elected.

Son I think you are making Obama out to be a bit bigger than he is.

Obama is not "THE GOVERNMENT".

No one hopes the Govt fails.

Again you are getting the terms of the conversation all mixed again.

Let's go over this slowly once more.

I hope most of Obamas political goals fail.

I hope the country, economy, Govt. people, Stock market, ........ succeed. Heck I even hope you Spooky succeed too!

Now I know it's tough for you big Govt types to grasp but Obama is not "THE Govt" nor "The country".

I'm not making him out to be anything but what he is, the President, Head Honcho, CEO. Not many businesses are successful when the policies of those in charge fail, are they? Think about it. If Bill Gates failed, where would Microsoft be? The leaders at GM have failed in many ways for years, what it the condition of the company now? So somehow you think all of his political goals can fail and everthing else will be fine? Please, give me some of what your're smoking. It's nonsense.

Again you are a little confused about the role and purpose of Govt my friend.

Business has one function... Make money.

Govt doesn't even make money.. in fact if this comparison had any weight... The Govt would be

in Chapter 11 and selling off it's assets.

Politicians do so much more than a CEO because they have the ability to use FORCE to make us comply.... while Bill gates is limited to hoping we buy his product.

The Govt can "take" one persons money and give it to another, tell me what CEO can do that?

Our system of Govt is not only divided in Washington, but even between the Central Govt and the States.

Using your logic one would have to conclude the "Left" was in fact unpatriotic when they

wanted Bush to fail, when they rejoiced as his ratings sank lower and lower, as more bad news kept coming from Iraq.

So according to you, as they wanted him to fail.... they must have wanted the country to fail?

(don't even try to deny they wanted Bush to fail)

Some people believe, the cost of Obamas failure... will be less than the price of his success.

(think about that)

[Danno 1,228]

I think they are going to the wrong address.

The should be heading down to where Obama lives or to the Capital, after all when you give

a reckless person money and they act recklessly......who is the person at fault?

PLease people, it is not AIG who is to blame.

These are failed businesses Propped up by our elected leaders, they gave them money and actually put clauses in the agreement which allowed them to honor the bonus program.

Now the story is out and the want AIG to wear the Black-hat.

This is the efficiency of Govt.

Obama PWNED!!!!

Except George gave them the money.

Well noted.

Wasn't it Obama who voted on it? If he let these obviously flawed Bills pass by without correcting them, what will this mean for our Foreign policy agreements in the future?

Oh I know what you are thinking.... "he will have "experienced" aids to hold his hand.

[mawilson 2,133]

Serious question:

But what would you have rather seen? Would you have rather AIG just fail completely?

i'm asking, seriously, not to be a brat...

Yes. Chapter 11 bankruptcy and reorganization.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Nothing. I believe in America and that we will solve our problems. I don't sit and wait and hope that the government fails just because the person I voted for didn't get elected.

Son I think you are making Obama out to be a bit bigger than he is.

Obama is not "THE GOVERNMENT".

No one hopes the Govt fails.

Again you are getting the terms of the conversation all mixed again.

Let's go over this slowly once more.

I hope most of Obamas political goals fail.

I hope the country, economy, Govt. people, Stock market, ........ succeed. Heck I even hope you Spooky succeed too!

Now I know it's tough for you big Govt types to grasp but Obama is not "THE Govt" nor "The country".

I'm not making him out to be anything but what he is, the President, Head Honcho, CEO. Not many businesses are successful when the policies of those in charge fail, are they? Think about it. If Bill Gates failed, where would Microsoft be? The leaders at GM have failed in many ways for years, what it the condition of the company now? So somehow you think all of his political goals can fail and everthing else will be fine? Please, give me some of what your're smoking. It's nonsense.

Again you are a little confused about the role and purpose of Govt my friend.

Business has one function... Make money.

Govt doesn't even make money.. in fact if this comparison had any weight... The Govt would be

in Chapter 11 and selling off it's assets.

Politicians do so much more than a CEO because they have the ability to use FORCE to make us comply.... while Bill gates is limited to hoping we buy his product.

The Govt can "take" one persons money and give it to another, tell me what CEO can do that?

Our system of Govt is not only divided in Washington, but even between the Central Govt and the States.

Using your logic one would have to conclude the "Left" was in fact unpatriotic when they

wanted Bush to fail, when they rejoiced as his ratings sank lower and lower, as more bad news kept coming from Iraq.

So according to you, as they wanted him to fail.... they must have wanted the country to fail?

(don't even try to deny they wanted Bush to fail)

Some people believe, the cost of Obamas failure... will be less than the price of his success.

(think about that)

I'm not confused at all. You and your other pals here coninue on with your warped beliefs. It's the country that you hate so much that gives you that right to voice your opinions. And as said umpteen times, I never wanted Bush to fail even though I think he was a poor President. You believe what you want, thankfully people like you are in the minority.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I think they are going to the wrong address.

The should be heading down to where Obama lives or to the Capital, after all when you give

a reckless person money and they act recklessly......who is the person at fault?

PLease people, it is not AIG who is to blame.

These are failed businesses Propped up by our elected leaders, they gave them money and actually put clauses in the agreement which allowed them to honor the bonus program.

Now the story is out and the want AIG to wear the Black-hat.

This is the efficiency of Govt.

Obama PWNED!!!!

Except George gave them the money.

Well noted.

Wasn't it Obama who voted on it? If he let these obviously flawed Bills pass by without correcting them, what will this mean for our Foreign policy agreements in the future?

Oh I know what you are thinking.... "he will have "experienced" aids to hold his hand.

Whatever you say. Thank god we have people like you, Virtual Wife, Lucky Strike, Alienlovechild, I Quit etc. The sore losers club. Perhaps you guys/girls could overthrow the government and run the country the right way?

[SMOKE 1,426]

i hope someone gives this out on the bus.

Official: AIG bonus estimates grow

Company paid $218 million, not $165 million, Conn. attorney general says

The Associated Press

updated 9:35 a.m. CT, Sat., March. 21, 2009

NEW HAVEN, Connecticut - The attorney general of Connecticut said Saturday that he is asking American International Group Inc. why documents appear to show the company paid $53 million more in bonuses to its financial products division than previously reported.

Documents turned over late Friday show AIG paid $218 million in bonuses last weekend, higher than the $165 million that was previously disclosed, said the office of Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, who had issued a subpoena.

Bonuses were "showered like confetti" on AIG employees, Blumenthal said.

AIG had previously disclosed that the company was contractually obligated to pay a total of about $165 million of previously awarded "retention pay" to employees in the financial products unit, based in Connecticut, by March 15. It said another $55 million in retention pay had already been distributed to about 400 AIG Financial Products employees.

That total of $220 million is about $2 million more than the figure disclosed Friday, and Blumenthal said he was seeking clarification from the company on whether the new papers differ from what was previously reported.

"Unless the number can be explained, it will undercut any lingering rationale the company may have for these unjustified payments," Blumenthal told The Associated Press on Saturday.

AIG spokesman Mark Herr declined to comment.

The newly released documents show that the nation's largest insurer, which has received $182.5 billion in federal money to keep it from failing, paid bonuses of more than $1 million to 73 employees, with five of them getting bonuses of more than $4 million, Blumenthal said.

The company did not release the names of the employees, citing worker safety.

"The initial number was so outrageous that it will further fuel the justified anger and revulsion that people feel," Blumenthal said. "It simply shows how these people should have been shoved out the door, not showered with cash."

News of the bonuses last week ignited a firestorm, and even some death threats. Congress began action on a bill that would tax 90 percent of the bonuses, and the company's chief executive urged anyone who received more than $100,000 to return at least half.

Activists are expected to rally at AIG's office in Wilton on Saturday to protest the bonuses. A busload are also touring past some AIG executives' homes in Connecticut, organizers said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29812224

[britty 1]

oh yippee - a protest. They ALWAYS help. I really hate socialist, whinging, stinking, stand for nothing, Toyota driving, left-wing, liberal, sheep. Instead of baa'ing together for the sum total of fook-all, just go and do something that actually has an outcome. Yawn.

[Danno 1,228]

Nothing. I believe in America and that we will solve our problems. I don't sit and wait and hope that the government fails just because the person I voted for didn't get elected.

Son I think you are making Obama out to be a bit bigger than he is.

Obama is not "THE GOVERNMENT".

No one hopes the Govt fails.

Again you are getting the terms of the conversation all mixed again.

Let's go over this slowly once more.

I hope most of Obamas political goals fail.

I hope the country, economy, Govt. people, Stock market, ........ succeed. Heck I even hope you Spooky succeed too!

Now I know it's tough for you big Govt types to grasp but Obama is not "THE Govt" nor "The country".

I'm not making him out to be anything but what he is, the President, Head Honcho, CEO. Not many businesses are successful when the policies of those in charge fail, are they? Think about it. If Bill Gates failed, where would Microsoft be? The leaders at GM have failed in many ways for years, what it the condition of the company now? So somehow you think all of his political goals can fail and everthing else will be fine? Please, give me some of what your're smoking. It's nonsense.

Again you are a little confused about the role and purpose of Govt my friend.

Business has one function... Make money.

Govt doesn't even make money.. in fact if this comparison had any weight... The Govt would be

in Chapter 11 and selling off it's assets.

Politicians do so much more than a CEO because they have the ability to use FORCE to make us comply.... while Bill gates is limited to hoping we buy his product.

The Govt can "take" one persons money and give it to another, tell me what CEO can do that?

Our system of Govt is not only divided in Washington, but even between the Central Govt and the States.

Using your logic one would have to conclude the "Left" was in fact unpatriotic when they

wanted Bush to fail, when they rejoiced as his ratings sank lower and lower, as more bad news kept coming from Iraq.

So according to you, as they wanted him to fail.... they must have wanted the country to fail?

(don't even try to deny they wanted Bush to fail)

Some people believe, the cost of Obamas failure... will be less than the price of his success.

(think about that)

I'm not confused at all. You and your other pals here coninue on with your warped beliefs. It's the country that you hate so much that gives you that right to voice your opinions. And as said umpteen times, I never wanted Bush to fail even though I think he was a poor President. You believe what you want, thankfully people like you are in the minority.

Ahh, yes.... you are confused and it's on display with each post.

It's not me who hates this country, and I won't play the game of suggesting you do either, I will note, those on the Left typically are the fault finders with our country and our history.

Your side typically acts as though we "will be" a great country when we embrace enough leftist, ideas.

To me "country" means The-People, not The-Govt. What have I ever said that makes you suppose I hate my Government.. not to mention the American people?

As George Washington said.

" America is Great because she is good; when she ceases to be good, she will cease to be great".

I believe as every conservative I know of that, Americas people are by and large GOOD.

We are not the ones who see a country of racists or a country full of greedy business people.

We are not the ones who, don't trust the people with guns or their vote (prop 8).

We are not the ones who trust the Federal Government more than the local Government.

We are the ones who love this country, her proud history and traditions and many will fight to preserve them.

[Peikko 1,575]

Nothing. I believe in America and that we will solve our problems. I don't sit and wait and hope that the government fails just because the person I voted for didn't get elected.

Son I think you are making Obama out to be a bit bigger than he is.

Obama is not "THE GOVERNMENT".

No one hopes the Govt fails.

Again you are getting the terms of the conversation all mixed again.

Let's go over this slowly once more.

I hope most of Obamas political goals fail.

I hope the country, economy, Govt. people, Stock market, ........ succeed. Heck I even hope you Spooky succeed too!

Now I know it's tough for you big Govt types to grasp but Obama is not "THE Govt" nor "The country".

I'm not making him out to be anything but what he is, the President, Head Honcho, CEO. Not many businesses are successful when the policies of those in charge fail, are they? Think about it. If Bill Gates failed, where would Microsoft be? The leaders at GM have failed in many ways for years, what it the condition of the company now? So somehow you think all of his political goals can fail and everthing else will be fine? Please, give me some of what your're smoking. It's nonsense.

Again you are a little confused about the role and purpose of Govt my friend.

Business has one function... Make money.

Govt doesn't even make money.. in fact if this comparison had any weight... The Govt would be

in Chapter 11 and selling off it's assets.

Politicians do so much more than a CEO because they have the ability to use FORCE to make us comply.... while Bill gates is limited to hoping we buy his product.

The Govt can "take" one persons money and give it to another, tell me what CEO can do that?

Our system of Govt is not only divided in Washington, but even between the Central Govt and the States.

Using your logic one would have to conclude the "Left" was in fact unpatriotic when they

wanted Bush to fail, when they rejoiced as his ratings sank lower and lower, as more bad news kept coming from Iraq.

So according to you, as they wanted him to fail.... they must have wanted the country to fail?

(don't even try to deny they wanted Bush to fail)

Some people believe, the cost of Obamas failure... will be less than the price of his success.

(think about that)

I'm not confused at all. You and your other pals here coninue on with your warped beliefs. It's the country that you hate so much that gives you that right to voice your opinions. And as said umpteen times, I never wanted Bush to fail even though I think he was a poor President. You believe what you want, thankfully people like you are in the minority.

Ahh, yes.... you are confused and it's on display with each post.

It's not me who hates this country, and I won't play the game of suggesting you do either, I will note, those on the Left typically are the fault finders with our country and our history.

Your side typically acts as though we "will be" a great country when we embrace enough leftist, ideas.

To me "country" means The-People, not The-Govt. What have I ever said that makes you suppose I hate my Government.. not to mention the American people?

As George Washington said.

" America is Great because she is good; when she ceases to be good, she will cease to be great".

I believe as every conservative I know of that, Americas people are by and large GOOD.

We are not the ones who see a country of racists or a country full of greedy business people.

We are not the ones who, don't trust the people with guns or their vote (prop 8).

We are not the ones who trust the Federal Government more than the local Government.

We are the ones who love this country, her proud history and traditions and many will fight to preserve them.

Doesn't the bolded negate the first part of your little speach? Mind you, the bolded doesn't make a whole bunch of sense either. For example, just because you can't 'see' any racism it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Racism is still part and parcel of some people's every day existence. By the same token, those who know racism is still alive and kicking are not paranoid about it and don't see it 'lurking behind every corner'.

Likewise, business. There are many thousands of businesses that are properly conducted and they make money. No one begrudges these people their success or their profit. However, there are also examples of business that use bad practice, lies and deceit. These businesses are products of corrupt business practice and the motivation is often unbridled greed. There is nothing good about such businesses.

So, by suggesting that 'conservatives' are the only ones who hold true values, you are necessarily saying that non conservatives hold false values and by default this is 'un-American'. Your confidence in 'the people' is at best half hearted. You only have confidence in like minded people. Not a very rational position, but then what do I expect when someone goes onto suggest that only conservatives love their country and that these conservatives will 'fight' to protect this narrow view of what America is and should be. Sounds very much like the talk of someone set on civil war. Do you want a civil war Danno?

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I think they are going to the wrong address.

The should be heading down to where Obama lives or to the Capital, after all when you give

a reckless person money and they act recklessly......who is the person at fault?

PLease people, it is not AIG who is to blame.

These are failed businesses Propped up by our elected leaders, they gave them money and actually put clauses in the agreement which allowed them to honor the bonus program.

Now the story is out and the want AIG to wear the Black-hat.

This is the efficiency of Govt.

Obama PWNED!!!!

Except George gave them the money.

And Obama was a senator that voted for it.

[Danno 1,228]

Do you want a civil war Danno?

Of course no one "wants" a civil war.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I think they are going to the wrong address.

The should be heading down to where Obama lives or to the Capital, after all when you give

a reckless person money and they act recklessly......who is the person at fault?

PLease people, it is not AIG who is to blame.

These are failed businesses Propped up by our elected leaders, they gave them money and actually put clauses in the agreement which allowed them to honor the bonus program.

Now the story is out and the want AIG to wear the Black-hat.

This is the efficiency of Govt.

Obama PWNED!!!!

Except George gave them the money.

And Obama was a senator that voted for it.

And you live in the US. So by your logic, it's your fault.

[Peikko 1,575]

Do you want a civil war Danno?

Of course no one "wants" a civil war.

Probably not true, but I'll accept that you don't 'want' civil war. Do you see it as inevitable because the current president is set on a course that is 'un-American'?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Nothing. I believe in America and that we will solve our problems. I don't sit and wait and hope that the government fails just because the person I voted for didn't get elected.

Son I think you are making Obama out to be a bit bigger than he is.

Obama is not "THE GOVERNMENT".

No one hopes the Govt fails.

Again you are getting the terms of the conversation all mixed again.

Let's go over this slowly once more.

I hope most of Obamas political goals fail.

I hope the country, economy, Govt. people, Stock market, ........ succeed. Heck I even hope you Spooky succeed too!

Now I know it's tough for you big Govt types to grasp but Obama is not "THE Govt" nor "The country".

I'm not making him out to be anything but what he is, the President, Head Honcho, CEO. Not many businesses are successful when the policies of those in charge fail, are they? Think about it. If Bill Gates failed, where would Microsoft be? The leaders at GM have failed in many ways for years, what it the condition of the company now? So somehow you think all of his political goals can fail and everthing else will be fine? Please, give me some of what your're smoking. It's nonsense.

Again you are a little confused about the role and purpose of Govt my friend.

Business has one function... Make money.

Govt doesn't even make money.. in fact if this comparison had any weight... The Govt would be

in Chapter 11 and selling off it's assets.

Politicians do so much more than a CEO because they have the ability to use FORCE to make us comply.... while Bill gates is limited to hoping we buy his product.

The Govt can "take" one persons money and give it to another, tell me what CEO can do that?

Our system of Govt is not only divided in Washington, but even between the Central Govt and the States.

Using your logic one would have to conclude the "Left" was in fact unpatriotic when they

wanted Bush to fail, when they rejoiced as his ratings sank lower and lower, as more bad news kept coming from Iraq.

So according to you, as they wanted him to fail.... they must have wanted the country to fail?

(don't even try to deny they wanted Bush to fail)

Some people believe, the cost of Obamas failure... will be less than the price of his success.

(think about that)

I'm not confused at all. You and your other pals here coninue on with your warped beliefs. It's the country that you hate so much that gives you that right to voice your opinions. And as said umpteen times, I never wanted Bush to fail even though I think he was a poor President. You believe what you want, thankfully people like you are in the minority.

Ahh, yes.... you are confused and it's on display with each post.

It's not me who hates this country, and I won't play the game of suggesting you do either, I will note, those on the Left typically are the fault finders with our country and our history.

Your side typically acts as though we "will be" a great country when we embrace enough leftist, ideas.

To me "country" means The-People, not The-Govt. What have I ever said that makes you suppose I hate my Government.. not to mention the American people?

As George Washington said.

" America is Great because she is good; when she ceases to be good, she will cease to be great".

I believe as every conservative I know of that, Americas people are by and large GOOD.

We are not the ones who see a country of racists or a country full of greedy business people.

We are not the ones who, don't trust the people with guns or their vote (prop 8).

We are not the ones who trust the Federal Government more than the local Government.

We are the ones who love this country, her proud history and traditions and many will fight to preserve them.

Only 6 people here are confused. I am not on any side, you are. I am for whoever I feel will do the best job for the country. And no intelligent person would think that would be the Republican party at this period in time.