'Largest public protest of global warming' ever in USA faces DC March snowstorm!

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and it happened on obama's watch.

Well yeah, since the previous guys wasn't interested in doing much about it.

more like he thought he could get away with it on obama's watch, and got slapped for it.

I could care less for Dr. Hansen and what he does on his own private time. If he does something contrary to his government position... then he can accept the consequences for what he does. What I do care about is making sure people get the message straight... something quite rapidly lost around here with some folks that can't even tell the difference between climate and weather.

of course, if this had happened about 4 months ago, there woulda been lotsa torches carried in this thread.

Well... perhaps folks can demand a lot more of their public officials with this as well as other things too. Maybe that can be part of the take-home message. Activism doesn't always involve breaking the law...

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and it happened on obama's watch.

Well yeah, since the previous guys wasn't interested in doing much about it.

more like he thought he could get away with it on obama's watch, and got slapped for it.

I could care less for Dr. Hansen and what he does on his own private time. If he does something contrary to his government position... then he can accept the consequences for what he does. What I do care about is making sure people get the message straight... something quite rapidly lost around here with some folks that can't even tell the difference between climate and weather.

of course, if this had happened about 4 months ago, there woulda been lotsa torches carried in this thread.

Well... perhaps folks can demand a lot more of their public officials with this as well as other things too. Maybe that can be part of the take-home message. Activism doesn't always involve breaking the law...

good non-answer, rather than admitting i had a point

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and it happened on obama's watch.

Well yeah, since the previous guys wasn't interested in doing much about it.

more like he thought he could get away with it on obama's watch, and got slapped for it.

I could care less for Dr. Hansen and what he does on his own private time. If he does something contrary to his government position... then he can accept the consequences for what he does. What I do care about is making sure people get the message straight... something quite rapidly lost around here with some folks that can't even tell the difference between climate and weather.

of course, if this had happened about 4 months ago, there woulda been lotsa torches carried in this thread.

Well... perhaps folks can demand a lot more of their public officials with this as well as other things too. Maybe that can be part of the take-home message. Activism doesn't always involve breaking the law...

good non-answer, rather than admitting i had a point

I guess you didn't quite catch the part about there being consequences to one's actions. Let me put that part back up in bold.

And... what point would that be? That this thread started on a Sunday night when most members that could/would/like/consider to fire up the torches are likely not around? Charles... you're starting to go along the whaaaambulance route... criticizing things before there really is something there to get in a wad over.

But hmmmm now that you mention it...

had Hansen made any public declarations of the sort under the Bush presidency, I doubt he'd have stayed at NASA much longer. And maybe gotten a special investigation carried out against him too for whatever strange reason could be mustered up.

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and it happened on obama's watch.

Well yeah, since the previous guys wasn't interested in doing much about it.

more like he thought he could get away with it on obama's watch, and got slapped for it.

I could care less for Dr. Hansen and what he does on his own private time. If he does something contrary to his government position... then he can accept the consequences for what he does. What I do care about is making sure people get the message straight... something quite rapidly lost around here with some folks that can't even tell the difference between climate and weather.

of course, if this had happened about 4 months ago, there woulda been lotsa torches carried in this thread.

Well... perhaps folks can demand a lot more of their public officials with this as well as other things too. Maybe that can be part of the take-home message. Activism doesn't always involve breaking the law...

good non-answer, rather than admitting i had a point

I guess you didn't quite catch the part about there being consequences to one's actions. Let me put that part back up in bold.

And... what point would that be? That this thread started on a Sunday night when most members that could/would/like/consider to fire up the torches are likely not around? Charles... you're starting to go along the whaaaambulance route... criticizing things before there really is something there to get in a wad over.

But hmmmm now that you mention it...

had Hansen made any public declarations of the sort under the Bush presidency, I doubt he'd have stayed at NASA much longer. And maybe gotten a special investigation carried out against him too for whatever strange reason could be mustered up.

and you left out the most important detail: those suffering from bds would be creaming in their pants over it all.

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or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

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or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

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or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

compared to the lack of regard for the environment, causality for the deaths of countless thousands worldwide, and an economic free for all that has impacted the entire globe. Yep. quite appropriate and in context. Let me know when Obama has that much of a track record.

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and it happened on obama's watch.

Well yeah, since the previous guys wasn't interested in doing much about it.

more like he thought he could get away with it on obama's watch, and got slapped for it.

I could care less for Dr. Hansen and what he does on his own private time. If he does something contrary to his government position... then he can accept the consequences for what he does. What I do care about is making sure people get the message straight... something quite rapidly lost around here with some folks that can't even tell the difference between climate and weather.

of course, if this had happened about 4 months ago, there woulda been lotsa torches carried in this thread.

Well... perhaps folks can demand a lot more of their public officials with this as well as other things too. Maybe that can be part of the take-home message. Activism doesn't always involve breaking the law...

In this case it does: Violation of the Hatch Act.

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and it happened on obama's watch.

Well yeah, since the previous guys wasn't interested in doing much about it.

more like he thought he could get away with it on obama's watch, and got slapped for it.

I could care less for Dr. Hansen and what he does on his own private time. If he does something contrary to his government position... then he can accept the consequences for what he does. What I do care about is making sure people get the message straight... something quite rapidly lost around here with some folks that can't even tell the difference between climate and weather.

of course, if this had happened about 4 months ago, there woulda been lotsa torches carried in this thread.

Well... perhaps folks can demand a lot more of their public officials with this as well as other things too. Maybe that can be part of the take-home message. Activism doesn't always involve breaking the law...

In this case it does: Violation of the Hatch Act.

Good. You did a little digging. We can thus expect excuses if he gets/doesn't get slammed based on people's interpretation of what is restricted political activity by government personnel? Now... lets get back to the message instead of seeking more scapegoated excuses to piss over each other.

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or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

compared to the lack of regard for the environment, causality for the deaths of countless thousands worldwide, and an economic free for all that has impacted the entire globe. Yep. quite appropriate and in context. Let me know when Obama has that much of a track record.

i'm sure someone will, but i also doubt you'd listen without trying to refute it.

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Statement to the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee by William Happer, Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University, made on February 25, 2009.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5441

Deleted most of this post to save on HD space, frugal in that respect, but vehemently disagree with this author, he is taking away my right to pay a carbon tax, and I love to pay taxes. I also want to buy a hybrid car, but have to wait until they can develop a battery that can output at -35*F temperatures, otherwise, just hauling around a useless cake of ice and burning even more carbon.

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or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

compared to the lack of regard for the environment, causality for the deaths of countless thousands worldwide, and an economic free for all that has impacted the entire globe. Yep. quite appropriate and in context. Let me know when Obama has that much of a track record.

i'm sure someone will, but i also doubt you'd listen without trying to refute it.

Ah the power of assuming too much.

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

compared to the lack of regard for the environment, causality for the deaths of countless thousands worldwide, and an economic free for all that has impacted the entire globe. Yep. quite appropriate and in context. Let me know when Obama has that much of a track record.

i'm sure someone will, but i also doubt you'd listen without trying to refute it.

Ah the power of assuming too much.

i don't believe i'll be disappointed.

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Statement to the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee by William Happer, Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University, made on February 25, 2009.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5441

Deleted most of this post to save on HD space, frugal in that respect, but vehemently disagree with this author, he is taking away my right to pay a carbon tax, and I love to pay taxes. I also want to buy a hybrid car, but have to wait until they can develop a battery that can output at -35*F temperatures, otherwise, just hauling around a useless cake of ice and burning even more carbon.

Screw the carbon tax. I'd rather see public funds go into creating more efficient mechanisms for regulating existing contamination from our own activity. Oh wait...

I question the good professor since the evidence he conveniently doesn't cite is even more selectively chosen than the greater amount of varied data he refutes.

or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

compared to the lack of regard for the environment, causality for the deaths of countless thousands worldwide, and an economic free for all that has impacted the entire globe. Yep. quite appropriate and in context. Let me know when Obama has that much of a track record.

i'm sure someone will, but i also doubt you'd listen without trying to refute it.

Ah the power of assuming too much.

i don't believe i'll be disappointed.

You may not since his efforts may actually work.

This doesn't have to turn into yet another whinefest does it?

[Ban Hammer 14,269]

Statement to the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee by William Happer, Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics Princeton University, made on February 25, 2009.

http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5441

Deleted most of this post to save on HD space, frugal in that respect, but vehemently disagree with this author, he is taking away my right to pay a carbon tax, and I love to pay taxes. I also want to buy a hybrid car, but have to wait until they can develop a battery that can output at -35*F temperatures, otherwise, just hauling around a useless cake of ice and burning even more carbon.

Screw the carbon tax. I'd rather see public funds go into creating more efficient mechanisms for regulating existing contamination from our own activity. Oh wait...

I question the good professor since the evidence he conveniently doesn't cite is even more selectively chosen than the greater amount of varied data he refutes.

or people interested in doing something about GW caring more about the actual issue and not who is or isn't creaming their shorts. I care little for that cliché.

yet quite appropriate, having seen and heard some of the most vile venom directed at him.

compared to the lack of regard for the environment, causality for the deaths of countless thousands worldwide, and an economic free for all that has impacted the entire globe. Yep. quite appropriate and in context. Let me know when Obama has that much of a track record.

i'm sure someone will, but i also doubt you'd listen without trying to refute it.

Ah the power of assuming too much.

i don't believe i'll be disappointed.

You may not since his efforts may actually work.

This doesn't have to turn into yet another whinefest does it?

may, OR may not. and i doubt it will turn into anything like that as long as you try to be intellectually honest.