Holder: US is nation of cowards on racial matters

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm guessing there's a specific deconstruction of the authors points that I must have missed.

Must be it.

[Peikko 1,575]

Yeah, the guy is only an Emeritus at Harvard in Zoology, what does he know? Justashooters qualifications in the scientific field, notably genetics are long and irrefutable

[alienlovechild 75]

The USAG has better things to do than make inflammatory comments especially in the name of an administration which came to pwer as post racial. He's supposed to enforce the law not spouting off like Jerry Springer. Certainly he could have been more diplomatic for man in his position.

[justashooter 430]

I'm guessing there's a specific deconstruction of the authors points that I must have missed.

Must be it.

"There's lies, damned lies, and statistics..."

Roosevelt, T

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's also obfuscation and denial.

[Peikko 1,575]

There were 12 or more articles, reasoned articles not a bunch of statistics.

Personally, I found it very interesting, because somewhat surprisingly, I had never come across this line of thinking, which is directly attributable to the recent research in genetics. For over 30 years, geneticists have been compiling evidence that suggests there are no clearly definable 'races' in genetic terms. Not in the sense that we have been led to believe by the science and social thinking of the late 18th and 19th century. The 'skin deep' if you will differences are just that and do not translate to a significant genetic code that makes it possible to predict with any accuracy genetic patterns that are useful not only in order to make some social comment on racial differences, but more importantly, and what a lot of the genetics regarding 'race' were investigating, in medicinal terms.

Now, you can close your ears to the last 30 years of scientific discovery if you wish, just so you can continue to believe that you can predict, for example how big someone's schlong is likely to be dependent on what 'race' they belong to. However, I think it is more useful to consider that these scientist might indeed have not only an interesting but a valid point of view. One which may well come in useful should I suffer from certain hereditary diseases in the future.

Edited February 20, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[justashooter 430]

There were 12 or more articles, reasoned articles not a bunch of statistics.

Personally, I found it very interesting, because somewhat surprisingly, I had never come across this line of thinking, which is directly attributable to the recent research in genetics. For over 30 years, geneticists have been compiling evidence that suggests there are no clearly definable 'races' in genetic terms. Not in the sense that we have been led to believe by the science and social thinking of the late 18th and 19th century. The 'skin deep' if you will differences are just that and do not translate to a significant genetic code that makes it possible to predict with any accuracy genetic patterns that are useful not only in order to make some social comment on racial differences, but more importantly, and what a lot of the genetics regarding 'race' were investigating, in medicinal terms.

Now, you can close your ears to the last 30 years of scientific discovery if you wish, just so you can continue to believe that you can predict, for example how big someone's schlong is likely to be dependent on what 'race' they belong to. However, I think it is more useful to consider that these scientist might indeed have not only an interesting but a valid point of view. One which may well come in useful should I suffer from certain hereditary diseases in the future.

You had time to read 12 articles? Somebody needs to get a job.

Science rarely exists in a vaccuum. It is usually funded by special interest, or government. Scientists who produce results unpleasing to their source of funding rarely retain their job, much less rise to positions of prominence. Leftist dogma has preached the "unity of man" philosophy since the early 70's. Ironic that a shift in scientific conclusion occured at exactly the same moment, eh? Trouble is, my wife's face is still clearly Chinese, and mine is still clearly Anglo. No matter how much research is piled up, the truth is still out there.

As for the size of schlongs, well, that's already accepted fact. Caucasians and africans have about the same size, and asians are smaller. Just the way it is, so google it, if you like.

The reports you cite are a tool of social engineering, and nothing more.

[Peikko 1,575]

You clearly don't know much about the scientific community and are buying lock stock and barrel into the right wing rhetoric. Seriously, do you even believe in science at all? Perhaps you think that science is left wing dogma and that we should all believe in god and the bible?

[Danno 1,228]

The problem with these studies is; You must suspend everything logic suggests and everything we all know to be true with our own eyes.

[Peikko 1,575]

Anyway, people can read and decide for themselves what they think about genetics. Quite honestly you are not the arbiter of what is and isn't, even though you seem to think that you are. Open mindedness is a wonderful thing

The problem with these studies is; You must suspend everything logic suggests and everything we all know to be true with our own eyes.

No, the problem is that, you either didn't read any of it, or more likely, you didn't understand it. The visual differences are genetically pretty insignificant.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So.... any published scientific works must be regarded as corrupt?

Ouch.

[Peikko 1,575]

So.... any published scientific works must be regarded as corrupt?

Ouch.

No, only the ones he doesn't understand or that challenge his world view

[justashooter 430]

Anyway, people can read and decide for themselves what they think about genetics. Quite honestly you are not the arbiter of what is and isn't, even though you seem to think that you are. Open mindedness is a wonderful thing

The problem with these studies is; You must suspend everything logic suggests and everything we all know to be true with our own eyes.

No, the problem is that, you either didn't read any of it, or more likely, you didn't understand it. The visual differences are genetically pretty insignificant.

if your wife is inserting a steak knife between your 2nd and 3rd rib, and at the same time saying she loves you, does she?

[Peikko 1,575]

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it must be a duck theory of race?

Good one mate.

[justashooter 430]

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it must be a duck theory of race?

Good one mate.

if it quacks, it ain't likely a rabbit. well, maybe at easter time...