Fidel Castro says Cuba could talk with Obama

[Scott & Lai 12]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

[kaydee457 13]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

No, of course it's a religion practised by whites, blacks, yellow, brown and a myriad of other ethnicities......

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

Edited December 8, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[kaydee457 13]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

It is my understanding that he will be required to use his full name when sworn in.....

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

It is my understanding that he will be required to use his full name when sworn in.....

And?

[Teacher Mark 53]

I guess that will be the moment that the approximately 6% that carried him over the top will go "Huh"?...."What's his middle name"?...."Oh my God".........

[Scott & Lai 12]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

I didn't hear an issue being made that Obama's name indicated he was Arab, rather that it showed he was a Muslim. Two different things. Arab is an ethnicity, Muslim is not.

[Teacher Mark 53]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

I didn't hear an issue being made that Obama's name indicated he was Arab, rather that it showed he was a Muslim. Two different things. Arab is an ethnicity, Muslim is not.

Edited December 8, 2008 by Joe Six-Pack

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

I didn't hear an issue being made that Obama's name indicated he was Arab, rather that it showed he was a Muslim. Two different things. Arab is an ethnicity, Muslim is not.

In the context of those accusations - I don't think the people involved can (or deliberately choose not to) tell the difference between Muslim, Arab and Terrorist.

But the question remains - what do you think was the purpose of making that identification about Obama from his name?

Edited December 8, 2008 by Paul Daniels

[HAL 9000 96]

You don't think all the Barack Hussein Obama ####### in the campaign had anything to do with race? Or the allegations that he was a secret Muslim? What was the purpose of that line of reasoning?

No, I think it was a stupid ploy on his name. Is Muslim a race?

The concept of racism is commonly applied to ethnicity in addition to race, and we have no problem calling out racism when it pertains to groups like Jews - which share common cultural, religious and (not necessarily) racial characteristics - or nationality.

I don't think its unreasonable to wonder why a big deal was made about Obama's middle name - while noone seemed to care overmuch about John "Sidney" McCain or Hillary "Diane" Clinton. Would anyone have cared about Obama's middle name if it were "Jeff"? One wonders...

If not - then I have to ask why his name was specifically singled out and for what purpose?

I thought it interesting that a point was made out of the Obama Campaign's reaction to that story that Obama must somehow be ashamed of his middle name - which is obviously a way of keeping the story going. Indeed - rather than address the original allegations, the focus became the Obama Campaign's response, while the Talk Radio nuts (among others) shrugged their shoulders of any responsibility while continuing to repeat the original slander.

In essence its a way of saying prejudiced and racist things indirectly - via nudge-nudge, wink-wink innuendo while washing their hands of any direct involvement. In short its incredibly dishonest.

I didn't hear an issue being made that Obama's name indicated he was Arab, rather that it showed he was a Muslim. Two different things. Arab is an ethnicity, Muslim is not.

In the context of those accusations - I don't think the people involved can (or deliberately choose not to) tell the difference between Muslim, Arab and Terrorist.

But the question remains - what do you think was the purpose of making that identification about Obama from his name?

That's pretty much the only question. With an answer borne out of sheer stupidity.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It was certainly stupid.

[HAL 9000 96]

I'd not even credit the idea of stupidity. That needs to be reclassified as just plainly retarded.

[t0+ 1]

I know you guys are discussing racism and what not, but can anybody think of a good reason why we shouldn't have relations with Cuba? Is all of this just a hold over from antiquated policy from our anti-comunism days?

If the Castro brothers are the reason for continuing the current policy, isn't that really for the Cuban people to decide and change? Are we doing more harm to the Cuban people by continuing these policies?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I know you guys are discussing racism and what not, but can anybody think of a good reason why we shouldn't have relations with Cuba? Is all of this just a hold over from antiquated policy from our anti-comunism days?

If the Castro brothers are the reason for continuing the current policy, isn't that really for the Cuban people to decide and change? Are we doing more harm to the Cuban people by continuing these policies?

It does seem a bit out of date.

[Teacher Mark 53]

It is out of date and hurting the people. My only problem is the fact that he was willing ot let the Russians park nukes there. It was a long time ago, but........