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Fraud occurs everywhere, and obviously should be prosecuted fair and justly.

However, strange that the people so far mostly outraged about this weren't so outraged about the wasted 3+ trillion dollars on a bullshit war. Nor are they outraged at the wasted trillion+ given to Israel with nothing in return but being spied on for our generosity.

Guess that's why no one takes their opinion seriously on rational debates regarding health care. :thumbs:

NO PRGRAM, NO FRAUD!

No government, no rules, no morals, no fraud.

There's something I can go for.

Otherwise, there's a compromise.

Compromise is kinda like gettin shite on, then wipin it off and sayin it was an accident. Also known as, I didnt mean it!

This article is about Medicare being defrauded, right? Not Medicare doing the defrauding?

Yeah thats it, lets split some short and curlies!

I think you may have misread the article.

Medicare fraud is a huge problem. I just finished editing a book about managed care (zzzz....). Actually, the most interesting chapter was on fraud.

Marc, if I may ask, are you planning to forgo Medicare when you're eligible?

If its not there how could I be eligble, huh? The question is, why arent you payin for your poor neighbors healthcare?

I am paying for my poor (and indeed elderly) neighbors' health care. And care for everyone on my very expensive group plan who makes a claim. And a sh!tload toward my health insurance companies' exorbitant executive salaries, marketing, and administrative costs. All in the name of choice, of course.

Are you suggesting that Medicare should be abolished? Somehow I don't think that the magical private market could find a way to make money off sick old people on a fixed income. This was apparent even before health care got crazy expensive. Of course, when it was created, Medicare was established in a different economic era; for example, no pharmaceutical company was charging the equivalent of the country's average monthly wage for a course of pills, doctors weren't paying off $100K in medical school loans, and OB/GYNs weren't having to fork over tens of thousands in malpractice premiums. Medicare's biggest obstacle isn't the program itself but the private, profit-at-all-costs context in which it operates. Which is really screwing practically everyone.

I like your use of words implicating "sick old ppl" as the cause! Like somehow I want sick old ppl to pay! Your bleedin heart bullshite dont float at all. Same old game your playin with the "old"

Its about ppl that SUCK the system because they can! You commin off like the almighty caring, above the frey, I wanna spend other ppls money BS is so ridiculous.

Go hang out your breast of love and see how many toothy bastards rub you raw! My god man your nuts!

Marc, this article is about agencies making massive fraudulent Medicare claims, not people receiving Medicare benefits fraudulently. In many cases, the entities sucking the system because they can are private, for-profit businesses (home health care agencies, for example). Your responses suggest that you're not clear on this.

My position is that if I'm going to be paying this much into various systems, I'd like to get more out of it than temporary coverage that will end as soon as my employment does.

I may have misunderstood your post, but I thought you were suggesting that Medicare shouldn't exist, as if a private entity could provide the same service if given the chance.

p.s. Breast of love?

Dam agnes, if the program wasnt there it couldnt be abused! Right? Eliminate the giveaways and we get rid of the leeches. Im not talkin about poor old ppl!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

― Andrew Wilkow

 
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