Sarah Palin Boom Busts

[Cassie 8]

I'm still waiting for someone who believes Obama's pledge that the U.S. will free of foreign sources of oil within 10 years.

If I remember correctly, it's freeing the US from oil sourced from the Middle East and Venezuela in 10 years. Big difference.

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I'm still waiting for someone who believes Obama's pledge that the U.S. will free of foreign sources of oil within 10 years.

If I remember correctly, it's freeing the US from oil sourced from the Middle East and Venezuela in 10 years. Big difference.

Especially given that our largest suppliers aren't even in the ME.

[Peikko 1,575]

I remember lots of the sentiments and intentions that Obama expressed in his speech, you know - the Content. The Meaning. Being able to quote something verbatim is a sign of rote learning, not understanding.

I didn't ask for a verbatim Obama quote just something, anything that worth remembering at such a historic occasion. Not being able to recall anything is a sign no one is truly listening or the speaker isn't exactly inspiring or both.

She just doesn't care. She's not at all interested in the world, she is not interested in the governmental processes that she wishes to become a part of. The woman feels entitled to be there, and truthfully doesn't see why all these interviewers insist on asking her these questions.

She's not a senator in Washington but a state governor. She didn't expect to be the VP candidate so of course she's going to seem a bit raw but then again Obama has few qualifications to becoming president. How is she entitled? She's not Hillary expecting to president because of her husband.

Biden and Obama are part of the U.S. Senate and have known each other for 4 years. That sounds nice but it didn't help Kerry/Edwards or Gore/Liberman. Both of those teams quickly parted ways after failed election bids.

I'll bet there will be plenty of people looking for memorable phrases at tonight's debate and there will thread(s) on it.

No, she's definitely not Hillary who is quite capable of speaking off the cuff about a myriad of different political topics without sounding like a buffoon. As to 'expecting' to be president because of her husband, that maybe your expectation, but it surely isn't hers Honestly the Clinton conspiracy theorists are really funny, I mean, it's not like Bill is just hanging around looking for something to do with his time, or that Hillary has nothing to contribute beyond being president. If that were true, the pair of them would be relaxing in retirement right about now, they aren't exactly poor and in need of a job.

Edited October 2, 2008 by Madame Cleo

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Palin is way smarter than Hillary.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This was the quote:

And for the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as president: In 10 years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

[Cassie 8]

I'm still waiting for someone who believes Obama's pledge that the U.S. will free of foreign sources of oil within 10 years.

If I remember correctly, it's freeing the US from oil sourced from the Middle East and Venezuela in 10 years. Big difference.

Especially given that our largest suppliers aren't even in the ME.

exactly. Look north people, the crazy socialist hippies in Canada have you by the short hairs! mwhahahahahaha!

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Good thing those hippies don't know the first thing about running a business

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

I didn't ask for a verbatim Obama quote just something, anything that worth remembering at such a historic occasion. Not being able to recall anything is a sign no one is truly listening or the speaker isn't exactly inspiring or both.

ok, well if it'll make you feel any better, I strongly identified with the idea of 'America's Promise', how his father had come to America as an immigrant, how his mother had endured years where it was hard to get by, but now he, their son, is a US Senator. As an immigrant myself, and from a country where many have before me to seek a better life here, I feel very close to his story. And he told it well.

Edited October 2, 2008 by Poiteen

[alienlovechild 75]

Even if Obama is only talking about freeing the U.S. from Middle Eastern oil he's still way off.

"Senator Obama said he would address American's oil dependency for the sake of the nation's economy, security and environment.

"I will set a clear goal as president: in ten years we will finally end our dependence on oil in the Middle East," said Democratic Presidential nominee Barack Obama.

For some, the bold statement was more than just political rhetoric.

Professor James Sweeney is not a believer.

"If he means what it sounds like it means, it's impossible," said Stanford University Professor James Sweeney.

Professor Sweeney is the director of the Precourt Institute for Energy Efficiency at Stanford University. He says the U.S. consumes about 21 million barrels of oil a day.

"We import two-thirds of our oil now and the only way we can become independent is shut down industry and tell people they can't drive, tell people they can't fly," said Professor Sweeney."

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=n...&id=6359976

ok, well if it'll make you feel any better, I strongly identified with the idea of 'America's Promise', how his father had come to America as an immigrant, how his mother had endured years where it was hard to get by, but now he, their son, is a US Senator. As an immigrant myself, and from a country where many have before me to seek a better life here, I feel very close to his story. And he told it well.

You saw a different bio than I did before Obama's DNC speech. His dad was mentioned once and I can't remember if his face was shown. His mother got a little more coverage. His Indonesian stepdad didn't exist. Most of it was on how his grandfather was in WWII and his grandmother (the racist) worked

in war factory in Kansas. Nothing about Indonesia and was Hawaii mentioned either?

My ancestors were immigrants but my financee the immigrant wasn't entralled with Obama's story.

Edited October 2, 2008 by alienlovechild

[IAMX 3,055]

Even if Obama is only talking about freeing the U.S. from Middle Eastern oil he's still way off.

"Senator Obama said he would address American's oil dependency for the sake of the nation's economy, security and environment.

"I will set a clear goal as president: in ten years we will finally end our dependence on oil in the Middle East," said Democratic Presidential nominee Barack Obama.

For some, the bold statement was more than just political rhetoric.

Professor James Sweeney is not a believer.

"If he means what it sounds like it means, it's impossible," said Stanford University Professor James Sweeney.

Professor Sweeney is the director of the Precourt Institute for Energy Efficiency at Stanford University. He says the U.S. consumes about 21 million barrels of oil a day.

"We import two-thirds of our oil now and the only way we can become independent is shut down industry and tell people they can't drive, tell people they can't fly," said Professor Sweeney."

How is he way off? I'd rather keep on the subject of the oil thing (since you clearly got it wrong, and Indonesia/Hawaii aren't relevant to anything important anyways) as I'd like to know how implausible it is to completely rid the U.S. of Middle East oil dependency in 10 years. A good chunk we already make ourselves, another good chunk we get from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela (ironic). The only imports we'd really need to get rid of that would have an impact is Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

Both alternative sources of energy, such as hybrids, BEV's, HFCV's and moderated use of oil can easily, by itself, allow this country to be just fine in no longer needing the Middle East for it's oil. The argument you pasted is merely a general statement made against imports in general, not the Middle East. The percentage of ME oil is nowhere even remotely close to 2/3. With the numbers I see for Iraq and Saudi Arabia alone, maybe 10-20%. If we have any significant imports larger than the top 15, I'd say closer to 10%, maybe less.

Edited October 2, 2008 by SRVT

[Cassie 8]

I didn't ask for a verbatim Obama quote just something, anything that worth remembering at such a historic occasion. Not being able to recall anything is a sign no one is truly listening or the speaker isn't exactly inspiring or both.

ok, well if it'll make you feel any better, I strongly identified with the idea of 'America's Promise', how his father had come to America as an immigrant, how his mother had endured years where it was hard to get by, but now he, their son, is a US Senator. As an immigrant myself, and from a country where many have before me to seek a better life here, I feel very close to his story. And he told it well.

I also identified somewhat with that, but what resonates with me is his admitting the need to improve the standing of the US in the world -- first, that he even recognizes that there is a problem is huge, and recognizing that cultivating some goodwill worldwide might not be such a bad thing. From the debate transcripts:

The other thing that we have to focus on, though, is Al Qaida. They are now operating in 60 countries. We can't simply be focused on Iraq. We have to go to the root cause, and that is in Afghanistan and Pakistan. That's going to be critical. We are going to need more cooperation with our allies.

And one last point I want to make. It is important for us to understand that the way we are perceived in the world is going to make a difference, in terms of our capacity to get cooperation and root out terrorism.

How is he way off? I'd rather keep on the subject of the oil thing (since you clearly got it wrong, and Indonesia/Hawaii aren't relevant to anything important anyways) as I'd like to know how implausible it is to completely rid the U.S. of Middle East oil dependency in 10 years. A good chunk we already make ourselves, another good chunk we get from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela (ironic). The only imports we'd really need to get rid of that would have an impact is Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

Both alternative sources of energy, such as hybrids, BEV's, HFCV's and moderated use of oil can easily, by itself, allow this country to be just fine in no longer needing the Middle East for it's oil. The argument you pasted is merely a general statement made against imports in general, not the Middle East. The percentage of ME oil is nowhere even remotely close to 2/3. With the numbers I see for Iraq and Saudi Arabia alone, maybe 10-20%. If we have any significant imports larger than the top 15, I'd say closer to 10%, maybe less.

Edited October 2, 2008 by Cassie

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

ok, well if it'll make you feel any better, I strongly identified with the idea of 'America's Promise', how his father had come to America as an immigrant, how his mother had endured years where it was hard to get by, but now he, their son, is a US Senator. As an immigrant myself, and from a country where many have before me to seek a better life here, I feel very close to his story. And he told it well.

You saw a different bio than I did before Obama's DNC speech. His dad was mentioned once and I can't remember if his face was shown. His mother got a little more coverage. His Indonesian stepdad didn't exist. Most of it was on how his grandfather was in WWII and his grandmother (the racist) worked

in war factory in Kansas. Nothing about Indonesia and was Hawaii mentioned either?

My ancestors were immigrants but my financee the immigrant wasn't entralled with Obama's story.

you asked, I gave you an answer. It matters little to me whether your wife felt the same way. Point is I remember.