Fellow Commies

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Like it is somehow hip to tag yourself a commie considering what it has done and what it represents to many people that have been f*cked over by it.

Again, I don't see that anywhere but on the Internet.

You're right though, there are lots of people online who love to say they're communist and take a lot of pride in it. But I've never met them IRL. I doubt they're like that IRL, even they must know the historical realities of communism.

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Here's a perfect example, but feel free to Google search 'commie liberal' and see how many hits you get....

Left-Wing Commie Propaganda

The Progressive, a commie rag with a long history, has an interview with Venezuela's left-wing commie president, Hugo Chávez. Chávez has an audacious plan -- take over the world, starting with Central and South America -- then move up to North America.

http://www.dabydeen.com/2006/07/left-wing-...propaganda.html

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Edited August 13, 2008 by Jabberwocky

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Like it is somehow hip to tag yourself a commie considering what it has done and what it represents to many people that have been f*cked over by it.

Again, I don't see that anywhere but on the Internet.

You're right though, there are lots of people online who love to say they're communist and take a lot of pride in it. But I've never met them IRL. I doubt they're like that IRL, even they must know the historical realities of communism.

In the 1970's I was in the United Steelworkers of America labor union. I met quite a lot of communists and socialists that worked in the plant. However, a vast majority of the rank and file were not sympathetic to them or their message. Many of them advocated the overthrow of the US government. They hated everything America is.

Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor. Even in the face of the fact that there is no comparison between the horrors committed by the communists around the world when compared to the history of America. Communism's victims run in the tens of millions.

How the "compassion and empathy" crowd find this amusing is beyond my comprehension.

Edited August 13, 2008 by peejay

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Damn Communists!

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Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor.

Besides the Internet, where do you see them?

Communism's victims run in the tens of millions.

I agree.

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Like it is somehow hip to tag yourself a commie considering what it has done and what it represents to many people that have been f*cked over by it.

Again, I don't see that anywhere but on the Internet.

You're right though, there are lots of people online who love to say they're communist and take a lot of pride in it. But I've never met them IRL. I doubt they're like that IRL, even they must know the historical realities of communism.

In the 1970's I was in the United Steelworkers of America labor union. I met quite a lot of communists and socialists that worked in the plant. However, a vast majority of the rank and file were not sympathetic to them or their message. Many of them advocated the overthrow of the US government. They hated everything America is.

Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor. Even in the face of the fact that there is no comparison between the horrors committed by the communists around the world when compared to the history of America. Communism's victims run in the tens of millions.

How the "compassion and empathy" crowd find this amusing is beyond my comprehension.

Victims... and capitalism has how many victims? Somehow I think the absolutes are a little more. Is it communist victimizing or those carrying the atrocities under the banner of communism- something completely different which I doubt you consider in your deep analysis.

As for the card-carrying types that are (IMO) nothing more than spoiled rich rebels, well, we are in agreement with them. Lucky for your peace of mind, most become quite the capitalists when faced with growing up in this country.

Again, what that has to do with liberals or with those seeking social justice is beyond me and probably most people that don't rely on petty slogans and/or backwards labels to promote the stagnation of our society.

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Is it communist victimizing or those carrying the atrocities under the banner of communism

That argument annoys me. Ideas can't kill. It's in the very nature of an idea. It's not capable of killing. No man or woman on this planet has ever had an idea or read an idea in a book and spontaneously died from it.

People die when other people take ideas and implement them. Whether their implementations do the original idea justice is not really relevant. The idea is what led to their deaths.

The idea that the white man had a 'burden' to civilize the brown savages of the third world led to many deaths. White people killed them, the idea did not. Did the idea require they kill them? No. It just required they civilize them. But they killed them too.

The same is true for Communism. And all the organized religions. People have died as a direct result of other people acting those ideas out. We can argue till we're blue in the face whether their actions were truly sanctioned by the original idea, but how does that matter? Ideas can't kill anyway. People can, and they have.

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Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor.

Besides the Internet, where do you see them?

I don't see them. I don't hang in those circles.

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Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor.

Besides the Internet, where do you see them?

I don't see them. I don't hang in those circles.

Then how do you know they exist, outside of the Internet?

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Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor.

Besides the Internet, where do you see them?

I don't see them. I don't hang in those circles.

Then how do you know they exist, outside of the Internet?

How do you know they don't?

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Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor.

Besides the Internet, where do you see them?

I don't see them. I don't hang in those circles.

Then how do you know they exist, outside of the Internet?

How do you know they don't?

I don't. I never said they don't, I said I've never met any.

You're saying they do exist. So my question is how.

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Fast forward to the 21st century and I see the same type of folks that hate America and jump on the "I'm a commie" bandwagon as some sort of badge of honor.

Besides the Internet, where do you see them?

I don't see them. I don't hang in those circles.

Then how do you know they exist, outside of the Internet?

How do you know they don't?

I don't. I never said they don't, I said I've never met any.

You're saying they do exist. So my question is how.

What is your point?

All I said is that I have met communists in the past in person. And that there are wise guys that think it is cute to hang the commie tag on themselves here at VJ. I don't know nor do I give a rat's ####### whether they are true believers or not. Read my previous posts if you want my take on it.

How do you know atoms exist? Ever seen one? Or did you just read about them in a book?

If you want to meet a real commie I'm sure you could find lots of them if you went looking. I'm not really looking.

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All I said is that I have met communists in the past in person. And that there are wise guys that think it is cute to hang the commie tag on themselves here at VJ. I don't know nor do I give a rat's ####### whether they are true believers or not.

Thanks, that's what I was getting at.

I know there were a lot of actual real-life communists in the past. I also know it's 'cool' to be commie on some internet sites. My question was whether you know any IRL or not (I already said I don't) and you answered it.

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What? Who brags about being a commie on VJ? What have I missed?

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What? Who brags about being a commie on VJ? What have I missed?

Use search. There are a few.