McCain promotes drilling for oil off U.S. coast

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Who still want McCain for office? If there's more drilling, Exxon will profit even more. What we need to do is heavy conservation! Conservation is the key to unlocking lower gas prices, not more supply.

Yep...and it's doable....just need the political will and the right leadership to make it happen.

[Heracles 417]

Who still want McCain for office? If there's more drilling, Exxon will profit even more. What we need to do is heavy conservation! Conservation is the key to unlocking lower gas prices, not more supply.

Yep...and it's doable....just need the political will and the right leadership to make it happen.

And what have the house of reps and congress done? Jack freakin ####. Why even have congress and the house when everything obviously falls on the presidents shoulders? They just collect their tax payer funded pay checks while campaigning for over a year.

Unfortunately apologies, rights, ACLUs, partisan rhetoric, opinions, 1st Amendments etc do not fuel cars. If it did Americans would be the wealthiest people in the world.

Edited July 31, 2008 by Aficionado

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Who still want McCain for office? If there's more drilling, Exxon will profit even more. What we need to do is heavy conservation! Conservation is the key to unlocking lower gas prices, not more supply.

Yep...and it's doable....just need the political will and the right leadership to make it happen.

And what have the house of reps and congress done? Jack freakin ####. Why even have congress and the house when everything obviously falls on the presidents shoulders? They just collect their tax payer funded pay checks while campaigning for over a year.

Unfortunately apologies, rights, ACLUs, partisan rhetoric, opinions, 1st Amendments etc do not fuel cars. If it did Americans would be the wealthiest people in the world.

You have no idea what the f##k you're talking about.

[Heracles 417]

You have no idea what the f##k you're talking about.

How so?

You sit here, like a fool, and blame repubs while your dumbass pelozi style democrats sit on their ### and talk about change.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You have no idea what the f##k you're talking about.

How so?

You sit here, like a fool, and blame repubs while your dumbass pelozi style democrats sit on their ### and talk about change.

Who you calling fool, punk?

[Heracles 417]

Who you calling fool, punk?

Anyone worth less than me..

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Who you calling fool, punk?

Anyone worth less than me..

I'd pummel your head into your scrawny little neck... you just watch yourself, punk.

[Heracles 417]

I'd pummel your head into your scrawny little neck... you just watch yourself, punk.

Time to wake up now.

[Heracles 417]

Maybe we could drill your head Steven for oil. Though, I am sure the drills would come out empty.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'd pummel your head into your scrawny little neck... you just watch yourself, punk.

Time to wake up now.

I'm just teasing you, but seriously...in a scuffle, I'd take you down in sec. I'm built like a linebacker and hit like a brick wall...at least that's what the guys at the park where I used to play basketball said. Called me, 'The Great Wall'...guys would run into me and bounce right off.

[Heracles 417]

I'm just teasing you, but seriously...in a scuffle, I'd take you down in sec. I'm built like a linebacker and hit like a brick wall...at least that's what the guys at the park where I used to play basketball said. Called me, 'The Great Wall'...guys would run into me and bounce right off.

So do you see this as a partisan issue or an issue that the federal government, as a whole, is failing the American people?

I don't think this is a left or right issue. But more of a what the hell are you clowns in a city, county, state, Federal government level doing..

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I'm just teasing you, but seriously...in a scuffle, I'd take you down in sec. I'm built like a linebacker and hit like a brick wall...at least that's what the guys at the park where I used to play basketball said. Called me, 'The Great Wall'...guys would run into me and bounce right off.

So do you see this as a partisan issue or an issue that the federal government, as a whole, is failing the American people?

I don't think this is a left or right issue. But more of a what the hell are you clowns in a city, county, state, Federal government level doing..

Seriously, do you ever watch C-Span? You can find out just what bills Congress has attempted to pass over the last few years and then you'll have a better grasp of just what you think you are talking about. Make Google your friend.

[kerewin21 2]

And what's wrong with drilling offshore?

Well, ruining our precious environment and shorelines for one.

I posted this before, but there's this great radio show, This American Life, and they had an episode on this island called Nauru. Basically it was an island paradise, with fish and fruit and fresh water. Then they started selling their phosphate. And they sold ALL of it. Then they had nothing left and had ruined their island. They now have to import EVERYTHING, including water, and they make their income by providing tax havens and money laundering services.

We can more easily achieve similar gains in available oil by using the technologies we already have and investing in new ones.

Well...we have been ruining our precious environments and shorelines for years by over-immigrating our country. We've added 100+ million people to our population since 1970 primarily from over generous immigration policies. We are set to add another 100+ million to our population in the next 32 years if trends continue unabated. And you are worried about drilling for oil in offshore waters? You need a reality check.

Take time to read this and educate yourself: http://www.susps.org/overview/numbers.html

And all those extra soles will be burning energy too.

COMPLETELY different debate! And bringing our spouses and their family members, and their family members, and on and on, is part of the problem you're describing. Many of those 100 million you describe are here legally.

But to Charles' point, that nothing will change in 5 years, I completely disagree. We don't even have to WAIT for technological solutions. We already have them! Smaller cars, hybrid cars, more efficient use of the cars we have (such as carpooling and grouping errands to minimize driving), using public transportation systems that are already in place. The NYPD police cars are going hybrid and smaller, as are many of the NYC cabs. All of these alternatives for conserving fuel are here *now*. The decrease in demand for fuel in the last few months is also evidence that we use more than we need.

[Heracles 417]

Seriously, do you ever watch C-Span? You can find out just what bills Congress has attempted to pass over the last few years and then you'll have a better grasp of just what you think you are talking about. Make Google your friend.

It seems that nothing is happening here when compared to other nations. While I understand we have a totally different form of government in AUS, I tell you, they sure seem to get a lot more done over there. Like the $2,000 grant to covert your car to run on Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG). Or the $8,000 grant, you would appreciate, for installing solar systems in your house. Or the billions they are spending on upgrading and building new high speed mass transit systems.

It is not a crime for Americans to admit, and acknowledge, that others are doing something better than them and actually try to learn from them. After all every other country has done the same and learned so much from the United states previous success.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

And what's wrong with drilling offshore?

Well, ruining our precious environment and shorelines for one.

I posted this before, but there's this great radio show, This American Life, and they had an episode on this island called Nauru. Basically it was an island paradise, with fish and fruit and fresh water. Then they started selling their phosphate. And they sold ALL of it. Then they had nothing left and had ruined their island. They now have to import EVERYTHING, including water, and they make their income by providing tax havens and money laundering services.

We can more easily achieve similar gains in available oil by using the technologies we already have and investing in new ones.

Well...we have been ruining our precious environments and shorelines for years by over-immigrating our country. We've added 100+ million people to our population since 1970 primarily from over generous immigration policies. We are set to add another 100+ million to our population in the next 32 years if trends continue unabated. And you are worried about drilling for oil in offshore waters? You need a reality check.

Take time to read this and educate yourself: http://www.susps.org/overview/numbers.html

And all those extra soles will be burning energy too.

COMPLETELY different debate! And bringing our spouses and their family members, and their family members, and on and on, is part of the problem you're describing. Many of those 100 million you describe are here legally.

But to Charles' point, that nothing will change in 5 years, I completely disagree. We don't even have to WAIT for technological solutions. We already have them! Smaller cars, hybrid cars, more efficient use of the cars we have (such as carpooling and grouping errands to minimize driving), using public transportation systems that are already in place. The NYPD police cars are going hybrid and smaller, as are many of the NYC cabs. All of these alternatives for conserving fuel are here *now*. The decrease in demand for fuel in the last few months is also evidence that we use more than we need.