Canadian marrying American, Procedures

[Reba 2]

I don't even think it needs to be done by a licensed translator. If you're proficient in both languages you can do it yourself.

[ozone_1974 1]

hey everyone

Ok so after checking it out, all documents not in English must be translated by a certified translator AND notarized ...

so that being done, off I am filling out the DS-160 ..

That DS-160 form is a real pain, lol. Had my picture accepted, entered 60 years in the field where they ask how long I am planning on staying in the US (thought it was a funny question lol) and after a few timed out sessions I finally got it done and saved it

Here comes my next question.

I have been denied entry to USA once about 1 year ago (been there since without any problems). Reason for them to deny entry to USA was that at the time my fiancee and I planned on spending 6 months together. So as Canadians are legally allowed 6 months in USA per year, we arranged everything (took arrangements with my boss, put money aside etc etc).. The problem for the customs was that since my apartment renting contract was over, I decided not to renew it to avoid paying 6 months for nothing .. I figured I would just find another one quickly on my way back to Canada.

Apparently they did not like the fact I did not have an apartment or house in Canada anymore . So they told me to come back when i would have a place to live and that then it would be ok, after that they kindly escorted me back to the Canadian border So I got my apartment back (phew got lucky on that one .. lol) and then my fiancee and I decided to shorten our vacations to 3 months (just to be on the safe side).. So I went back to the border and they accepted me after a few questions without any problems. (btw : these vacations where the best vacations of my entire life .. did the whole trip in car from Montreal to Florida just to see USA a lil bit better than from a plane .. lol)

So in the DS-160 form, there is question where they ask if I have ever been denied entry to the US and why ... what should I have entered in there, and is the fact that I have been denied once for a stupid reason would delay the procedures or put the whole procedures on the line ?

PS : I do NOT have any criminal record of any sorts .. just thought I would precise that .. lol

Edited January 5, 2009 by ozone_1974

[Jenni and Bo 0]

From what I understand, if it's any type of denial, you have to put it down. They ask the question, they want you to answer. This will unlikely hinder your visa though. At the interview they will ask what the situation of the denial was, you can tell them and you'll be on your way

A lot of people get turned around at the border, so don't worry about it, but don't lie! Put it on your 160 and I'm sure you won't have too many issues with it.

[ozone_1974 1]

Thanks for the quick answer

I have a dumb question though

In the DS-160 form they are asking a contact name in the USA so as my fiancee is the only contact I have in the USA, I put her name, and then they are asking what relation I have with that person.. So there is a list of option with friend, spouse other, etc etc, but nothing with "fiancee" so I put "other" as choice .. would it be correct ?

Also, they are asking if I have immediate relatives in the US, my fiancee is an immediate relative right ? so is it correct to put her name ? (I am a bit confused with the meaning of relative and immediate relatives)

Can someone put some light on this one for me ? lol

thanks a lot in advance for your help and sorry for the dumb question

[Krikit 1,163]

I'm not familiar with the DS-160 form but it sounds like you would use "other". An immediate relative is a spouse, a parent, or a sibling. Your fiancee is not yet an immediate relative, nor is she any relative at all.

[ozone_1974 1]

Thanks for the answer

I just got confused cause they are saying in the DS-160 (right beside the immediate relatives field) :

"Immediate relative Means fiancé/fiancée, spouse (husband/wife), child (son/daughter), or sibling (brother/sister)."

[Krikit 1,163]

Thanks for the answer

I just got confused cause they are saying in the DS-160 (right beside the immediate relatives field) :

"Immediate relative Means fiancé/fiancée, spouse (husband/wife), child (son/daughter), or sibling (brother/sister)."

Interesting. I guess they have changed the definition for the purposes of their form.

Legal definition of immediate relative

Anyway, it looks like that has answered your question, if they specify it on their form.

[Jenni and Bo 0]

I put my fiancee as my contact in the USA as well. I would think that this would be completely acceptable, as they could be the only person you know down there

and yes, according to the DS160, your fiance/e DOES count as an immediate relative ( most likely due to the fact you are going down to marry them, thereby they become a spouse, which would be an immediate relative )

Always go by the instructions on the form if they're there

[trailmix 77]

I put my fiancee as my contact in the USA as well. I would think that this would be completely acceptable, as they could be the only person you know down there

and yes, according to the DS160, your fiance/e DOES count as an immediate relative ( most likely due to the fact you are going down to marry them, thereby they become a spouse, which would be an immediate relative )

Always go by the instructions on the form if they're there

oh noooooes - you are starting to create logic like USCIS!!

[Jenni and Bo 0]

oh noooooes - you are starting to create logic like USCIS!!

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...oh my god...they're really starting to get to me aren't they?!

hehe...you said "USCIS" and "Logic" in the same sentence....

Edited January 9, 2009 by Jenni and Bo

[ozone_1974 1]

oh noooooes - you are starting to create logic like USCIS!!

Would it be the kind of logic like the question they ask in the DS-160 "How long do you plan to stay in the US" ?

Thanks everyone for your help, this is greatly appreciated

DS-160 is finally done, saved, printed in 4 copies .. (you never know .. ) and submitted

[ozone_1974 1]

Hi everyone

I have another question

I received my packet 3 about a 2 months ago .. I have completed and submitted the DS-160 last week, the DS-230 is also completed but not sent yet I plan on sending it today by express post.

I am still working on the checklist items .. I had my birth certificate translated, my police certificates etc etc, I am only missing the medical and the affidavit from my fiancee who is also waiting for a paper for the affidavit form.

So is there any time line to send these forms back ? I saw that in the package they state to send back the DS-160 and DS-230 immediately but I have been so busy lately that I had just a little time to do anything. Will the fact that I did not sent it back immediately affect the visa procedures ?

Also can I send the DS-230 now and send the checklist later when we will have everything required ?

Thanks in advance everyone for your answers

Edited January 16, 2009 by ozone_1974

[Carlawarla 1]

Hi everyone

I have another question

I received my packet 3 about a 2 months ago .. I have completed and submitted the DS-160 last week, the DS-230 is also completed but not sent yet I plan on sending it today by express post.

I am still working on the checklist items .. I had my birth certificate translated, my police certificates etc etc, I am only missing the medical and the affidavit from my fiancee who is also waiting for a paper for the affidavit form.

So is there any time line to send these forms back ? I saw that in the package they state to send back the DS-160 and DS-230 immediately but I have been so busy lately that I had just a little time to do anything. Will the fact that I did not sent it back immediately affect the visa procedures ?

Also can I send the DS-230 now and send the checklist later when we will have everything required ?

Thanks in advance everyone for your answers

Wow, 2 months already? I'd be sending the checklist and the DS forms back now, and start gathering up the other stuff. You want to be in line for your interview, and they can't get that done until you send it back. I'd send the checklist and forms together, you don't want them not meeting up if you send them seperately.

You DON'T have to have everything in your hot little hands before you send that stuff back, you need to start gathering it!

Send it away!

[ozone_1974 1]

Thanks so much for your answer Carlawarla

[ozone_1974 1]

The DS-160 is online and has been sent already, the DS-230 has been completed as mentioned earlier, we have most of the checklist documents already, the only thing holding us back for the checklist is that we are waiting for the official date my fiancee came to USA with her parents (she was 2 years old) and this information will come from the US army.

Anyone else want to share their experience ? is it best to send the forms and checklist together ? and will the fact that it took 2 months already to send them back the forms will affect the visa ?

I guess I am just stressing it out a lil bit more than I should but you guys know how it is .. Sometimes stress is just getting to us, lol

Thanks everyone

Edited January 16, 2009 by ozone_1974