Oh, it's this again.....

[Niels Bohr 72]

i have an idea....shocking i know.

its friday & since we all know where everyone else stands on this issue, who wants to trade arguements today?

i'll take pro illegal/humanity/sympathy blah blah blah side.

who wants to take the GTFO they don't belong here side?

What have you been smokining, smoke? Hehehe. I'll that the latter.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

$24 billion was for the whole of 2007, not the first quarter of this year.

[Heracles 417]

$24 billion was for the whole of 2007, not the first quarter of this year.

Yep you are right.

$24,000,000,000 is still a lot of money. Whenever a few billion enters an economy through tourism it generates tens of thousands of jobs. So not think what $24 billion wold do.

[SMOKE 1,426]

i have an idea....shocking i know.

its friday & since we all know where everyone else stands on this issue, who wants to trade arguements today?

i'll take pro illegal/humanity/sympathy blah blah blah side.

who wants to take the GTFO they don't belong here side?

What have you been smokining, smoke? Hehehe. I'll that the latter.

marlboro light....until after work

just tryin to lighten up friday a lil

[Niels Bohr 72]

Come to think of it. I think there's a conspiracy going on with Mexico. They want to silently invade America, and then take control. Like colonists trying to colonize other countries. They are illegals slowly taking away another country.

[HAL 9000 96]

Rise above it all sister Diana...

Sometimes you have to steer the discussion with the magical ability to stay on topic.

Well that is ironical considering someone's post is about Mariah Carey..

Sorry I don't play the tangent or the reading miscomprehension game.

[Heracles 417]

That's a serious side effect that could be prevented. Imagine, if the Mexican economy were stronger in its citizenry, it would open the logical door for the citizen market to open itself up to US products made in the US, thereby injecting more funds into the US economy. Right?

America is a service based economy. We hardly manufacture anything anymore. We need immigrants who want to live here and spend here. Not people who are simply here to work and siphon money elsewhere.

Sorry I don't play the tangent or the reading miscomprehension game.

Which tangent is that?

Edited May 2, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[SMOKE 1,426]

Come to think of it. I think there's a conspiracy going on with Mexico. They want to silently invade America, and then take control. Like colonists trying to colonize other countries. They are illegals slowly taking away another country.

YOU'RE A RACIST!......prepare for the BROWN PEOPLE INVASION!

[Heracles 417]

$24 billion was for the whole of 2007, not the first quarter of this year.

What is so funny. Is $24 billion irrelevant.

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Come to think of it. I think there's a conspiracy going on with Mexico. They want to silently invade America, and then take control. Like colonists trying to colonize other countries. They are illegals slowly taking away another country.

There is no conspiracy about it. As the article above stated

"Remittances soared in the early part of the decade to become Mexico's largest source of foreign income after oil exports.

It is in the Mexican governments best interest to send people here.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[HAL 9000 96]

That's a serious side effect that could be prevented. Imagine, if the Mexican economy were stronger in its citizenry, it would open the logical door for the citizen market to open itself up to US products made in the US, thereby injecting more funds into the US economy. Right?

America is a service based economy. We hardly manufacture anything anymore. We need immigrants who want to live here and spend here. Not people who are simply here to work and siphon money elsewhere.

And? Isn't the point to create spenders here and there on our "stuff"?

I also include services beyond manufacture, like... finances, trade, and multinational economics that go beyond a product based service industry. Then again, the USA is a major provider of products to plenty of parts of the world, so opening up a citizenship by prosperity, you increase the demand for said products. That is supply and demand.

[Jack and Barbara 0]

That's a serious side effect that could be prevented. Imagine, if the Mexican economy were stronger in its citizenry, it would open the logical door for the citizen market to open itself up to US products made in the US, thereby injecting more funds into the US economy. Right?

America is a service based economy. We hardly manufacture anything anymore. We need immigrants who want to live here and spend here. Not people who are simply here to work and siphon money elsewhere.

That's what work-based visas are for. No one can truly control how people spend their money, however, and there is no law I am aware of that states XX% of money earned must remain in America. If I worked and lived abroad, I would probably save up money to bring back to the good ole States.

[HAL 9000 96]

That's a serious side effect that could be prevented. Imagine, if the Mexican economy were stronger in its citizenry, it would open the logical door for the citizen market to open itself up to US products made in the US, thereby injecting more funds into the US economy. Right?

America is a service based economy. We hardly manufacture anything anymore. We need immigrants who want to live here and spend here. Not people who are simply here to work and siphon money elsewhere.

Sorry I don't play the tangent or the reading miscomprehension game.

Which tangent is that?

Read post #105 there buddy.

[Heracles 417]

And? Isn't the point to create spenders here and there on our "stuff"?

I also include services beyond manufacture, like... finances, trade, and multinational economics that go beyond a product based service industry. Then again, the USA is a major provider of products to plenty of parts of the world, so opening up a citizenship by prosperity, you increase the demand for said products. That is supply and demand.

The US is now a service based economy. So your logic does not add up. Illegal Immigrants are not going to be using E*trade or buying healthcare stock, for example.

There is also the fact the illegal immigrants are costing the united states billions every year

Here are some facts on what illegal immigrants are taking from American taxpayers..

• $12,000,000,000 annual cost to America to educate the kids of illegal aliens.
• another $17,000,000,000 to pay for educating the anchor babies of illegal aliens.
• 30% of FEDERAL PRISONERS are not US citizens.
• American taxpayers spend $3,300,000 every day to house non-us citizen prisoners.

$400,000,000,000 estimated 10 year cost

Low skilled households:

• Pay $9,689 in taxes
• Receive $32,138 in benefits.

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Which tangent is that?

Read post #105 there buddy.

I did. It was a joke in response to another joke.

Edited May 2, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Jack and Barbara 0]

And? Isn't the point to create spenders here and there on our "stuff"?

I also include services beyond manufacture, like... finances, trade, and multinational economics that go beyond a product based service industry. Then again, the USA is a major provider of products to plenty of parts of the world, so opening up a citizenship by prosperity, you increase the demand for said products. That is supply and demand.

The US is now a service based economy. So your logic does not add up. Illegal Immigrants are not going to be using E*trade or buying healthcare stock, for example.

There is also the fact the illegal immigrants are costing the united states billions every year

Here are some facts on what illegal immigrants are taking from American taxpayers..

• $12,000,000,000 annual cost to America to educate the kids of illegal aliens.
• another $17,000,000,000 to pay for educating the anchor babies of illegal aliens.
• 30% of FEDERAL PRISONERS are not US citizens.
• American taxpayers spend $3,300,000 every day to house non-us citizen prisoners.

$400,000,000,000 estimated 10 year cost

Low skilled households:

• Pay $9,689 in taxes
• Receive $32,138 in benefits.

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Is that the same Fox news source? This is what I read on the website today

Death of 'D.C. Madam' Becomes Rich Ground for Conspiracy Theory

There might be a better chance of finding real news on TMZ.com

Edited May 2, 2008 by Jack and Barbara

[HAL 9000 96]

And? Isn't the point to create spenders here and there on our "stuff"?

I also include services beyond manufacture, like... finances, trade, and multinational economics that go beyond a product based service industry. Then again, the USA is a major provider of products to plenty of parts of the world, so opening up a citizenship by prosperity, you increase the demand for said products. That is supply and demand.

The US is now a service based economy. So your logic does not add up. Illegal Immigrants are not going to be using E*trade or buying healthcare stock, for example.

There is also the fact the illegal immigrants are costing the united states billions every year

Here are some facts on what illegal immigrants are taking from American taxpayers..

• $12,000,000,000 annual cost to America to educate the kids of illegal aliens.
• another $17,000,000,000 to pay for educating the anchor babies of illegal aliens.
• 30% of FEDERAL PRISONERS are not US citizens.
• American taxpayers spend $3,300,000 every day to house non-us citizen prisoners.

$400,000,000,000 estimated 10 year cost

Low skilled households:

• Pay $9,689 in taxes
• Receive $32,138 in benefits.

You argue against illegals based on they being HERE- fine. I argue against illegals based on their NOT NEEDING to be here. Get it?

Those drain numbers, then, simply don't NEED to be there under my argument. Do they? Simple logic.