McCain Asks NC GOP Not To Run Anti Obama Ad

[Sister Fracas 5]

I expect I'll be interested when we're back to talking about actual issues, rather than spinning and counter-spinning every spurious piece of punditry we can find.

Surely you jest! LOL

I will say this though - its been a while since I've seen this degree of (seemingly mindless) zealotry over political candidates. If I were into self-flagellation I expect it wouldn't bother me as much

And there aren't even any great candidates...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I expect I'll be interested when we're back to talking about actual issues, rather than spinning and counter-spinning every spurious piece of punditry we can find.

Surely you jest! LOL

I will say this though - its been a while since I've seen this degree of (seemingly mindless) zealotry over political candidates. If I were into self-flagellation I expect it wouldn't bother me as much

And there aren't even any great candidates...

Surely the biggest irony.

[no name 1]

Not really. Slinging mud is all Hillary and her camp knows how to do. It's what they do. It's who they are. Which is why Hillary won't be the nominee.

Is this an example of the 'new politics'? It's ok to slag off all supporters of a rival candidate just because you don't like the candidate?

I don't like her campaign. It's dirty.

Did either of these candidates for president attack the other unfairly?

-----------------------------% Total

Only Hillary Clinton did------24

Only Barack Obama did------6

Both did------------------44

Neither did-------------------24

link

I expect I'll be interested when we're back to talking about actual issues, rather than spinning and counter-spinning every spurious piece of punditry we can find.

Surely you jest! LOL

I will say this though - its been a while since I've seen this degree of (seemingly mindless) zealotry over political candidates. If I were into self-flagellation I expect it wouldn't bother me as much

How long have you lived in America?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How long have you lived in America?

2004.

[no name 1]

How long have you lived in America?

2004.

So you saw the election then or not?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How long have you lived in America?

2004.

So you saw the election then or not?

Yes...

[dalegg 143]

The thing that I find interesting about this ad is that pretty much all it does is show that Obama has an association with Reverand Wright. If the Obama camp finds the ad to be negative, then they must believe that an association with Reverand Wright is negative.

But do they? Look at Obama's response-

"My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he is their nominee and standard-bearer."

I don't think Obama himself is saying he finds the ad controversial, because if you think about it- he can't. But he does take the opportunity to use this whole situation against McCain. Not too shabby.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Not really. Slinging mud is all Hillary and her camp knows how to do. It's what they do. It's who they are. Which is why Hillary won't be the nominee.

Is this an example of the 'new politics'? It's ok to slag off all supporters of a rival candidate just because you don't like the candidate?

I don't like her campaign. It's dirty.

Did either of these candidates for president attack the other unfairly?

-----------------------------% Total

Only Hillary Clinton did------24

Only Barack Obama did------6

Both did------------------44

Neither did-------------------24

link

Emphasis corrected.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The thing that I find interesting about this ad is that pretty much all it does is show that Obama has an association with Reverand Wright. If the Obama camp finds the ad to be negative, then they must believe that an association with Reverand Wright is negative.

But do they? Look at Obama's response-

"My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he is their nominee and standard-bearer."

I don't think Obama himself is saying he finds the ad controversial, because if you think about it- he can't. But he does take the opportunity to use this whole situation against McCain. Not too shabby.

Obama makes a valid point: If McCain doesn't have or exercise enough leadership within the Republican party to get the folks in NC to respect the way he wishes to conduct his campaign for President of the United States, then how are we to believe is he going to have enough leadership to lead the country?

[metta 0]

The thing that I find interesting about this ad is that pretty much all it does is show that Obama has an association with Reverand Wright. If the Obama camp finds the ad to be negative, then they must believe that an association with Reverand Wright is negative.

But do they? Look at Obama's response-

"My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he is their nominee and standard-bearer."

I don't think Obama himself is saying he finds the ad controversial, because if you think about it- he can't. But he does take the opportunity to use this whole situation against McCain. Not too shabby.

Obama makes a valid point: If McCain doesn't have or exercise enough leadership within the Republican party to get the folks in NC to respect the way he wishes to conduct his campaign for President of the United States, then how are we to believe is he going to have enough leadership to lead the country?

Well, McCain's campaign has reassessed the situation and have determined that they want Obama as their general opponent.

So, he's wanting the reps in the states to start pulling their punches until after the Dem. primaries.

Makes him look good too didn't it. Telling state Reps not to go too negative on Obama..

Well, folks, Mccain campaign's script has now been changed. They now want Obama but not because of Kool Aid. That, you can count on it!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The thing that I find interesting about this ad is that pretty much all it does is show that Obama has an association with Reverand Wright. If the Obama camp finds the ad to be negative, then they must believe that an association with Reverand Wright is negative.

But do they? Look at Obama's response-

"My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he is their nominee and standard-bearer."

I don't think Obama himself is saying he finds the ad controversial, because if you think about it- he can't. But he does take the opportunity to use this whole situation against McCain. Not too shabby.

Obama makes a valid point: If McCain doesn't have or exercise enough leadership within the Republican party to get the folks in NC to respect the way he wishes to conduct his campaign for President of the United States, then how are we to believe is he going to have enough leadership to lead the country?

Well, McCain's campaign has reassessed the situation and have determined that they want Obama as their general opponent.

So, he's wanting the reps in the states to start pulling their punches until after the Dem. primaries.

Makes him look good too didn't it. Telling state Reps not to go too negative on Obama...

Actually, the GOP has done no such re-assessment and still rather runs against Hillary. It's very simple: She hasn't nearly as much appeal within the independent crowd as Obama does. McCain - the perceived luke-warm Republican - needs exactly that crowd for the win. And I disagree that it made him look good. McCain has been trying to pull off a good cop - bad cop scheme on this one. Very transparent. And again, it raises the question about his leadership abilities. If he can't lead the NC Republicans on one issue, how is he going to lead the country as President?

[metta 0]

The thing that I find interesting about this ad is that pretty much all it does is show that Obama has an association with Reverand Wright. If the Obama camp finds the ad to be negative, then they must believe that an association with Reverand Wright is negative.

But do they? Look at Obama's response-

"My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he is their nominee and standard-bearer."

I don't think Obama himself is saying he finds the ad controversial, because if you think about it- he can't. But he does take the opportunity to use this whole situation against McCain. Not too shabby.

Obama makes a valid point: If McCain doesn't have or exercise enough leadership within the Republican party to get the folks in NC to respect the way he wishes to conduct his campaign for President of the United States, then how are we to believe is he going to have enough leadership to lead the country?

Well, McCain's campaign has reassessed the situation and have determined that they want Obama as their general opponent.

So, he's wanting the reps in the states to start pulling their punches until after the Dem. primaries.

Makes him look good too didn't it. Telling state Reps not to go too negative on Obama...

Actually, the GOP has done no such re-assessment and still rather runs against Hillary. It's very simple: She hasn't nearly as much appeal within the independent crowd as Obama does. McCain - the perceived luke-warm Republican - needs exactly that crowd for the win. And I disagree that it made him look good. McCain has been trying to pull off a good cop - bad cop scheme on this one. Very transparent. And again, it raises the question about his leadership abilities. If he can't lead the NC Republicans on one issue, how is he going to lead the country as President?

Unless you have an inside track on McCain's campaign, how would you know?

I know, it's easy to call for CHANGE but ain't all that easy to accept the CHANGing situation.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The thing that I find interesting about this ad is that pretty much all it does is show that Obama has an association with Reverand Wright. If the Obama camp finds the ad to be negative, then they must believe that an association with Reverand Wright is negative.

But do they? Look at Obama's response-

"My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he is their nominee and standard-bearer."

I don't think Obama himself is saying he finds the ad controversial, because if you think about it- he can't. But he does take the opportunity to use this whole situation against McCain. Not too shabby.

Obama makes a valid point: If McCain doesn't have or exercise enough leadership within the Republican party to get the folks in NC to respect the way he wishes to conduct his campaign for President of the United States, then how are we to believe is he going to have enough leadership to lead the country?

Well, McCain's campaign has reassessed the situation and have determined that they want Obama as their general opponent.

So, he's wanting the reps in the states to start pulling their punches until after the Dem. primaries.

Makes him look good too didn't it. Telling state Reps not to go too negative on Obama...

Actually, the GOP has done no such re-assessment and still rather runs against Hillary.It's very simple: She hasn't nearly as much appeal within the independent crowd as Obama does. McCain - the perceived luke-warm Republican - needs exactly that crowd for the win. And I disagree that it made him look good. McCain has been trying to pull off a good cop - bad cop scheme on this one. Very transparent. And again, it raises the question about his leadership abilities. If he can't lead the NC Republicans on one issue, how is he going to lead the country as President?

Unless you have an inside track on McCain's campaign, how would you know?

You made a claim as to the re-assessment. You have some inside track we need to be aware of? Otherwise, I would have thought that the Republican nominee would leave that decision to the Democratic voters and the Democratic party. I believe that McCain and his campaign has enough respect for the democratic process. Much more so than a candidate on the other side, actually.

Edited April 27, 2008 by Mr. Big Dog