Obama calls for talks with Iran over Iraq

[Heracles 417]

I heard it travels slower in Australia..

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

US political icons: Time to talk to Iran

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:43:46

Five former US secretaries of state have advised the next presidential administration to conduct direct negotiations with Tehran.

In a Thursday conference at the University of Georgia, former chief US diplomats Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright highlighted the importance of engaging in dialogue with Iran's political leaders.

They agreed that holding talks on a 'common ground' such as the Iraqi crisis could help the restoration of Washington-Tehran relations.

"A dysfunctional Iraq, a chaotic Iraq, is not something that's in the interest to Iran. There's every incentive on their part to help us, the same way they did in Afghanistan,'' explained Baker, who served as secretary of state under the senior Bush.

They concluded that it may be time for Washington to abandon its 'unilateral' doctrine.

"When policies don't work for 50 years, it's time to start thinking about something else,'' maintained Christopher.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=49322§ionid=3510203

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

US political icons: Time to talk to Iran

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:43:46

Five former US secretaries of state have advised the next presidential administration to conduct direct negotiations with Tehran.

In a Thursday conference at the University of Georgia, former chief US diplomats Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright highlighted the importance of engaging in dialogue with Iran's political leaders.

They agreed that holding talks on a 'common ground' such as the Iraqi crisis could help the restoration of Washington-Tehran relations.

"A dysfunctional Iraq, a chaotic Iraq, is not something that's in the interest to Iran. There's every incentive on their part to help us, the same way they did in Afghanistan,'' explained Baker, who served as secretary of state under the senior Bush.

They concluded that it may be time for Washington to abandon its 'unilateral' doctrine.

"When policies don't work for 50 years, it's time to start thinking about something else,'' maintained Christopher.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=49322§ionid=3510203

Kissinger, Powell and Baker? There you have it, the radical fringe on the left.

[Heracles 417]

This is the only language Iran understands..

Iran meet Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam meet Iran..

Edited April 9, 2008 by Boo-Yah!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Ooh - very phallic.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

This is the only language Iran understands..

Iran meet Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam meet Iran..

Are you willing to concede that Baker, Kissinger and Powell - among many other seasoned and accomplished top diplomats - know a hell of a lot more about what approach to take than you do?

[GaryC 7]

US political icons: Time to talk to Iran

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:43:46

Five former US secretaries of state have advised the next presidential administration to conduct direct negotiations with Tehran.

In a Thursday conference at the University of Georgia, former chief US diplomats Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright highlighted the importance of engaging in dialogue with Iran's political leaders.

They agreed that holding talks on a 'common ground' such as the Iraqi crisis could help the restoration of Washington-Tehran relations.

"A dysfunctional Iraq, a chaotic Iraq, is not something that's in the interest to Iran. There's every incentive on their part to help us, the same way they did in Afghanistan,'' explained Baker, who served as secretary of state under the senior Bush.

They concluded that it may be time for Washington to abandon its 'unilateral' doctrine.

"When policies don't work for 50 years, it's time to start thinking about something else,'' maintained Christopher.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=49322§ionid=3510203

I beg to differ. Iran would love to be able to take over Iraq. The more dysfunctional it is the better for them. That is why they have been shipping IED's into Iraq. They want that country destableized and then hope we pull out. That gives them just what they are looking for. Talking to them about Iraq is like talking to the fox about the hen house.

[kaydee457 13]

The simple point is that a "potential president" (god help us- <roll eyes>) should never promise talks with our enemies without the advice and guidance of the U.S. State Department. Of course, as we all know Nacy Pelosi is exempt from such restrictive requirements as she's the all knowing political "star" that's above all that silliness. LOL

Obama: To do so is certainly naive, and irresponsible.

Edited April 9, 2008 by kaydee457

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

US political icons: Time to talk to Iran

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:43:46

Five former US secretaries of state have advised the next presidential administration to conduct direct negotiations with Tehran.

In a Thursday conference at the University of Georgia, former chief US diplomats Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright highlighted the importance of engaging in dialogue with Iran's political leaders.

They agreed that holding talks on a 'common ground' such as the Iraqi crisis could help the restoration of Washington-Tehran relations.

"A dysfunctional Iraq, a chaotic Iraq, is not something that's in the interest to Iran. There's every incentive on their part to help us, the same way they did in Afghanistan,'' explained Baker, who served as secretary of state under the senior Bush.

They concluded that it may be time for Washington to abandon its 'unilateral' doctrine.

"When policies don't work for 50 years, it's time to start thinking about something else,'' maintained Christopher.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=49322§ionid=3510203

I beg to differ. Iran would love to be able to take over Iraq. The more dysfunctional it is the better for them. That is why they have been shipping IED's into Iraq. They want that country destableized and then hope we pull out. That gives them just what they are looking for. Talking to them about Iraq is like talking to the fox about the hen house.

You are free to disagree, of course. However, do you have any actual experience in foreign policy ? The folks in the article do.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

US political icons: Time to talk to Iran

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:43:46

Five former US secretaries of state have advised the next presidential administration to conduct direct negotiations with Tehran.

In a Thursday conference at the University of Georgia, former chief US diplomats Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright highlighted the importance of engaging in dialogue with Iran's political leaders.

They agreed that holding talks on a 'common ground' such as the Iraqi crisis could help the restoration of Washington-Tehran relations.

"A dysfunctional Iraq, a chaotic Iraq, is not something that's in the interest to Iran. There's every incentive on their part to help us, the same way they did in Afghanistan,'' explained Baker, who served as secretary of state under the senior Bush.

They concluded that it may be time for Washington to abandon its 'unilateral' doctrine.

"When policies don't work for 50 years, it's time to start thinking about something else,'' maintained Christopher.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=49322§ionid=3510203

I beg to differ. Iran would love to be able to take over Iraq. The more dysfunctional it is the better for them. That is why they have been shipping IED's into Iraq. They want that country destableized and then hope we pull out. That gives them just what they are looking for. Talking to them about Iraq is like talking to the fox about the hen house.

The problem is that Iran is really in a stronger position than we are - what they're doing to destabilise Iraq doesn't cost them a fantastic amount of money (as it does us to occupy and secure the country), so really they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. As Petraeus says all the security gains are fragile and reversible - the biggest sticking point is moving towards a final solution is Iraqi political unity and that just doesn't seem to be happening. Not least when folks like Moqtadr al-Sadr appear to have significant leverage. That and regardless of what we're prepared to do - there's nothing stopping Iran from having an open dialog with Iraq's Shia factions.

[GaryC 7]

US political icons: Time to talk to Iran

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:43:46

Five former US secretaries of state have advised the next presidential administration to conduct direct negotiations with Tehran.

In a Thursday conference at the University of Georgia, former chief US diplomats Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker III, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright highlighted the importance of engaging in dialogue with Iran's political leaders.

They agreed that holding talks on a 'common ground' such as the Iraqi crisis could help the restoration of Washington-Tehran relations.

"A dysfunctional Iraq, a chaotic Iraq, is not something that's in the interest to Iran. There's every incentive on their part to help us, the same way they did in Afghanistan,'' explained Baker, who served as secretary of state under the senior Bush.

They concluded that it may be time for Washington to abandon its 'unilateral' doctrine.

"When policies don't work for 50 years, it's time to start thinking about something else,'' maintained Christopher.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=49322§ionid=3510203

I beg to differ. Iran would love to be able to take over Iraq. The more dysfunctional it is the better for them. That is why they have been shipping IED's into Iraq. They want that country destableized and then hope we pull out. That gives them just what they are looking for. Talking to them about Iraq is like talking to the fox about the hen house.

You are free to disagree, of course. However, do you have any actual experience in foreign policy ? The folks in the article do.

I can watch the news and think. It doesn't take an advanced degree in international relations to see what Iran wants.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I can watch the news and think. It doesn't take an advanced degree in international relations to see what Iran wants.

I respectfully submit that it takes a bit more than watching TV news to get the depth of understanding necessary to handle foreign relations.

[no name 1]

I can watch the news and think. It doesn't take an advanced degree in international relations to see what Iran wants.

I respectfully submit that it takes a bit more than watching TV news to get the depth of understanding necessary to handle foreign relations.

Out of curiosity, do you have any experience in foreign affairs?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I can watch the news and think. It doesn't take an advanced degree in international relations to see what Iran wants.

I respectfully submit that it takes a bit more than watching TV news to get the depth of understanding necessary to handle foreign relations.

Perhaps - but not for the purposes of these threads.

Iran isn't going anywhere and seeing as they're holding a lot of bargaining chips - I can't see how we can pursue a medium term withdrawal from Iraq without dealing with them in some respect.

Again - something that should have been thought of before we went into this mess.

[GaryC 7]

I can watch the news and think. It doesn't take an advanced degree in international relations to see what Iran wants.

I respectfully submit that it takes a bit more than watching TV news to get the depth of understanding necessary to handle foreign relations.

I guess thats why I work in a factory and not in the State Department. But I do have my opinion and I think my opinion has some truth to it. Don't you think Iran has ideas of taking over Iraq? Do you think they haven't been trying to destabilise the area?