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Hi guys,

I'm currently preparing for my interview next month and thank God for this website or else I wouldn't have known that I still need that CENMAR or Marriage Index.

I saw one VJer's post though that she was asked for her husband's CENMAR as well. I wanna know if this is really needed. Has any of you guys experienced this -being asked for both wife and husband's CENMAR?

Btw, here's my checklist for the interview. Please let me know if there's anything else I need:

Passport (with SLMEC)

Interview letter

Family/Wedding pictures

NSO Marriage Cert

NSO Birth Cert for me and hubby

NBI clearance

3 2x2 photos

Our son's CRBA Certificate

Btw, do they really ask for the NSO certificates and NBI clearance considering that we've already submitted them to NVC?

Thanks in advance!!

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Met August 8, 2007 through a common friend
Officially a couple October 2, 2007
Married November 2008
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USCIS
02/09/2010 - Receipt date on NOA1
02/16/2010 - Notice date (NOA1)
02/24/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail
04/20/2010 - Notice date (NOA2) APPROVED PETITION!
04/27/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail

NVC
04/28/2010 - AOS Bill generated
05/06/2010 - Received AOS Bill and DS-3032 in mail (New York)
05/20/2010 - Sent DS-3032 via email
05/21/2010 - Received DS-3032 form in mail (Philippines)
05/21/2010 - Paid AOS fee online
05/25/2010 - AOS fee shows PAID
05/25/2010 - NVC acknowledges DS-3032 email
05/26/2010 - IV fee generated
05/31/2010 - Paid IV fee
06/02/2010 - IV fee shows PAID
08/17/2010 - Sent AOS and DS-230 papers via 3-day air
08/25/2010 - NVC received the documents as per NVC IVR
09/18/2010 - Received checklist for I-864 forms
10/22/2010 - Sent RFE response
11/04/2010 - NVC received checklist response letter
11/14/2010 - SIF!!!! Yaaayyy!!
11/22/2010 - CC as per AVR
11/30/2010 - Received appointment letter
12/07/2010 - Medicals Day 1
12/08/2010 - Medicals Day 2 - PASSED!!!
01/04/2011 - Interview...APPROVED!!!
01/07/2011 - Received VISA
01/19/2011 - CFO Seminar
01/24/2011 - POE JFK =)

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I had to submit a Cenomar when I applied for my marriage license but have not heard of needing one for interview. Then again until just recently I had never heard that wife needed to bring hers for the interview.

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Met August 8, 2007 through a common friend
Officially a couple October 2, 2007
Married November 2008
------------------------------------------
USCIS
02/09/2010 - Receipt date on NOA1
02/16/2010 - Notice date (NOA1)
02/24/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail
04/20/2010 - Notice date (NOA2) APPROVED PETITION!
04/27/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail

NVC
04/28/2010 - AOS Bill generated
05/06/2010 - Received AOS Bill and DS-3032 in mail (New York)
05/20/2010 - Sent DS-3032 via email
05/21/2010 - Received DS-3032 form in mail (Philippines)
05/21/2010 - Paid AOS fee online
05/25/2010 - AOS fee shows PAID
05/25/2010 - NVC acknowledges DS-3032 email
05/26/2010 - IV fee generated
05/31/2010 - Paid IV fee
06/02/2010 - IV fee shows PAID
08/17/2010 - Sent AOS and DS-230 papers via 3-day air
08/25/2010 - NVC received the documents as per NVC IVR
09/18/2010 - Received checklist for I-864 forms
10/22/2010 - Sent RFE response
11/04/2010 - NVC received checklist response letter
11/14/2010 - SIF!!!! Yaaayyy!!
11/22/2010 - CC as per AVR
11/30/2010 - Received appointment letter
12/07/2010 - Medicals Day 1
12/08/2010 - Medicals Day 2 - PASSED!!!
01/04/2011 - Interview...APPROVED!!!
01/07/2011 - Received VISA
01/19/2011 - CFO Seminar
01/24/2011 - POE JFK =)

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hi girls...i talked to a girl from here, her interview was couple days ago and she said usem asked for her CENMAR/marriage index during her interview then i asked the other vj member that passed her interview and she said they didn't asked for Marriage Index from her...I think it depends on who will interview you on the pre-screening and the actual interview...But make sure you have the papers with you and get it ready so incase they will ask for it or not you are already prepared...Incase they ask for it and you dont have it, it will cause delay on the issuance of visa..im planning to get my Marriage Index soon too...Hope that helps a little...GOODLUCK ON YOUR UPCOMING INTERVIEW GIRLS...KEEP US POSTED ABOUT THE RESULT OF THE INTERVIEW AND THE EXPERIENCED AS WELL....

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Thanks for info. Wife will ask brother who works for NSO about it.

I really don't understand why it is needed when a Cenomar was needed at the beginning of this whole process.

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Me either why wouldn't the NSO marriage certificate be enough??

07-28-2009 : Met online

10-14-2009 : Met for the first time in Cebu, had to go back 11-1-2009

01-14-2010 : Moved to Cebu

02-25-2010 : Married

10-14-2010 : DCF I-130 at Manila Embassy

10-21-2010 : Additional requested supporting evidence received at embassy

11-05-2010 : I-130 application approved

11-11-2010 : Received Packet 3 via Fed Ex with MNL Case #

11-18-2010 : Packet 3 (DS-230 and Interview request) received at embassy

11-22-2010 : Calling to try and get an interview date set!

12-16-2010 : Medical completed in Manila at St. Lukes

12-17-2010 : Flying back to the US to prepare for Maricel's arrival

01-12-2011 : Interview Set

01-12-2011 : APPROVED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-20-2011 : Receive Visa

01-25-2011 : CFO Seminar completed - ready to go!

02-12-2011 : Leave Manila

02-13-2011 : POE at Houston, TX

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I think that because the PI is such a high fraud country, and anything can be forged/reproduced...that they require both just to make sure that all info is identical. Such as....someone may be able to obtain a fake CENOMAR just for the sake of getting a visa, and when they run the marriage index...Bingo Bango, there is a marriage listed....

just my two cents worth. :thumbs:

IR-1/CR-1 Visa

Event Date

Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : Manilla, Philipines

Marriage (if applicable): 2010-02-28

I-130 Sent : 2010-06-15

I-130 NOA1 : 2010-06-19

I-130 RFE :

I-130 RFE Sent :

I-130 Approved : 2010-08-03

NVC Received : 2010-08-10

Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2010-08-17

Pay I-864 Bill 2010-09-01

Receive I-864 Package : 2010-09-18

Return Completed I-864 : 2010-09-21

Return Completed DS-3032 : 2010-09-25

Receive IV Bill : 2010-10-05

Pay IV Bill : 2010-10-06

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Why would the USEM as for your CEMAR/marriage index?

Even the NSO Copy of your Marriage Certificate only shows 1 thing: That on said date you married said person. It does not show that either a) you were never previously married or b) if previously married any/all previous marriage(s) were legally terminated under Philippine Law.

My wife was told that her visa would be approved once the Embassy confirmed her CEMAR! Luckily she had already obtained it from the NSO and was able to present it on the spot so she was approved right there.

I look at it this way, I'd rather spend a little to have the document & not need it than get to the interview and face another delay because I didn't get it.

FWIW, the USEM should never ask for a USC's CEMAR/CENOMAR because there is nothing equalivent in the US.

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Well as said better to be safe than sorry. Wife has one coming to her.

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Why would the USEM as for your CEMAR/marriage index?

Even the NSO Copy of your Marriage Certificate only shows 1 thing: That on said date you married said person. It does not show that either a) you were never previously married or b) if previously married any/all previous marriage(s) were legally terminated under Philippine Law.

My wife was told that her visa would be approved once the Embassy confirmed her CEMAR! Luckily she had already obtained it from the NSO and was able to present it on the spot so she was approved right there.

I look at it this way, I'd rather spend a little to have the document & not need it than get to the interview and face another delay because I didn't get it.

FWIW, the USEM should never ask for a USC's CEMAR/CENOMAR because there is nothing equalivent in the US.

I only had my Canadian marriage certificate when I went to my interview. I read about married people still being asked for a CENOMAR only late Nov (I think, or early Dec) so the NSO wouldn't be able to issue me my CENOMAR before my interview. I went to the interview anyway.

The Immigration Officer (IO) during the FInal Interview did ask if I have a CENOMAR. I said I didn't request it early enough for the interview because I didn't know I needed a CENOMAR since it said in the "list of requirements" that it is only for people who have never contracted marriage. He said that he requires proof that I've never been married.

The good thing was I did have an old original CENOMAR with me that was issued in 2005 (proving I was never married from the time I was born up to 2005) and I have passport stamps to show that I was out of the country (Philippines) from 200X to 2010 (just returned this year to PH) and, consequently, could never have been married in the Philippines. Those were acceptable evidence to him. He said, "I get what you mean (while looking through my old passports' entry/departure stamps; He never asked to see my original 2005 CENOMAR). Your visa is approved. See? We can be reasonable."

That being said, if you already know (now you know since you've already read this far into this thread) and you have time before the interview, do get your CENOMAR even if you're already married.

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Quick question even though wife now has a Cenmar.

She still has a Cenomar for both her and I prior to our marriage this year. Would the interviewer had accepted them?

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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