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I just remember who bombed and killed close to 241 Americans in Beirut.

Not condoning killing anyone....I hate death and war as much as anyone, but most countries don't like foreign intervention. Americans don't like foreign troops on their land either, I remember seeing on the news after Hurricane Katrina some people almost p!ssed their pants when Mexican troops showed up....and rightly so even if it was to provide relief and aid. In fact Americans don't even want their own troops on their land (posse comitatus).

Thank you bery much for the information.

1. in red how can that be if you model something you become it. This is from wiki and imo is total BS. How could they not be facist with a totaltarian agenda.

2. I would personally face any of these so called Christians and tell them they do not live the lives of Christians especially if they commit acts as they did in the past you mentioned. Kill me maybe but as I laid dieing and a man still tell condemning them in the name of GoD they would know that when the day comes the Gates to Heaven will be closed to them.

(I will read mor about them)

3. What acts of atrocities have they been connected to in the present not 35 years ago ( I am not discounting what they did then)

I will tell you what, instead of trying to argue with me about politics in Lebanon which you will NEVER UNDERSTAND, why don't you go there and hold a meeting with the politicians in power and tell them what you think? They will laugh you out of the room, none of them care what you or the average Lebanese citizen thinks. I simply told you how the Lebanese civil war was started and you try to turn it around into something else. There has been tension in Lebanon since time began, it has always been a battle ground and unfortunately it probably always will be.....even before Islam made it's way into Lebanon it was a battle ground. Ever since the French occupation Christians gained most of the power and refused to share power equally, the religion card was always pulled and the Muslims were oppressed and mistreated......it was like a giant pressure cooker waiting to explode. Doesn't matter what religion it is or if religion is even involved.....when people are oppressed, not represented, and ignored long enough there will be conflict. Why don't you research Samir Gaga, he was a Christian imprisoned for war crimes, unfortunately he is in power again, and I am sure if he could repeat those crimes and not be in trouble again he would do it in a heartbeat. Thank god things are quiet in Lebanon right now on both sides and I hope it will stay that way. Anyway unless you can read Arabic you will never get a full understanding of the history of Lebanon and the civil war, anything you find on the internet is biased and from a western point of view.

So are were they Christian becasue they were white and non muslim or because they were documented on a christian mission?

The bus massacre was done by members or supporters of the Kataeb Party. The Kataeb Party members are Christian (Maronite). As for the white thing....the Lebanese are caucasian, my father is a red head with green eyes. If you seen him on the street you wouldn't even know he is an Arab.....don't try to turn it into a race thing.

Agreed. I have visited a number of them and have quite a few Habibi friends from there.

That does not change the reality that there is a large faction of fanatics within Islam, who are committing atrocities. Lebanon was once the Paris of the Middle East, look where war has gotten that country. Only one guess who is responsible for the civil war.

The bus massacre started the civil war when christian gunmen attacked a bus full of palestinians.

True but I doubt you could insult the hosts by daring to disagree on political or especially religious matters. If they are family and behind closed doors maybe it's possible. Most Muslims I've met can get pretty worked up on certain issues in the States and I wouldn't do it especially in the Middle East. I haven't been there yet but that's impression I gotten from some Muslims in the U.S. who got pissed off when you didn't agree with them.

I wouldn't be so sure about there, there are tolerant and intolerant people no matter what country you are in. Ever dare to disagree with an athiest? My mother who is very religious actually kicked my brother in law out of the house because he asked my wife why she doesn't wear hijab. I am sure you would think my mother would take my brother in laws side and start in on my wife but it was the exact opposite, things are not always how you assume they will be.

Quite a few of the people on this forum think all muslims hate them and want to kill them....I guess that is where the obsession comes from. If any of them went to visit a predominately muslim country they would be killed by hospitality and their hosts over feeding them sweets, tea, and home cooked meals before a terrorist would ever find them

i am wondering if there is anything going on with my case ... i didn't even have a touch since 2 days after the NOA1 date 6/9/2010 and even Augest filers are getting approved. Now does it worth to make an info pass appointment ?? i have never made one .. are they any better than the 1-800 number ??

It is making me sick.....we really have things to do with a baby coming in a few weeks and were hoping to move to a better apartment before the baby is born but don't want to change addresses before the ROC is finished. I can't believe they have skipped over so many of us in May and June.

Wait a minute, I thought it was Muslims and their RIGHTS who were being persecuted across the Country.

Think about that., the President, top generals and every other powerful person in the Gov't publicly tried to convince this one Preacher not to practice his 1st amendment right.

At Ground zero, I am not aware of anyone withholding permits or pressuring him to move the Mosque.

Thank you for your thoughts but I was not talking about the rights of muslims or anyone. I posted this to show he was being an attention wh0re. The fact that he wants the Obama administration to ask him so that he can consider not having his burn day proves he is looking for attention. The media should have never even covered this stupid issue in the first place because his head is overly inflated now.

Just proof this guy only wants attention.....he wants to be asked by the Obama administration not to burn the Quran

Florida denies burning permit

LAHORE: City officials in Gainesville, Florida, have denied a burning permit to a local church that wants to burn copies of the holy Quran on September 11. Gainesville officials say book burnings like the one planned by the Dove World Outreach Centre are prohibited under the city’s burning ordinance. City officials further warned that the church would face a fine if it went ahead with the burnings. The Dove World Outreach Centre, led by pastor Terry Jones, had announced the planned holy Quran burning last month. The pastor has now said that he would likely call off the event if asked to by the Obama administration. He said he had not yet been contacted by the White House, Pentagon or the US State Department. “That will cause us definitely to think it over. That’s what we’re doing now,” Jones said. daily times monitor/agencies

So what is to blame for the apparent overreactions by Muslims? You can't address the "problem" without knowing the cause. Are Muslims predisposed to outrage due to their genetic makeups? Does Islam itself encourage blowing things out of proportion (no pun intended)? Is Muslim reaction overreported by the western media? What is the role of media outlets in Muslim countries?

I can't speak for the Indonesians, Afghanis, Iranians or other nationalities that are predominately muslim........but I know Arabs generally have over the top hot tempers regardless of their religion.

This guy is clearly doing this for the show. I noticed on ABC he had about 30 people in his faux-church the other week.

Yes,he probably gets a thrill out of the politicians talking about him on national news when otherwise they wouldn't know he existed. The best policy in this situation would be to ignore him and let him do what he wants, don't make it so exciting for him.

Idiocy like this is why most other first world countries do not want this ####### in their backyard nor do they protect it under some delusion of freedom.

Also why I follow large scale religion, rather than these fly-by-night garage start up rogue places pretending to be a church.

I do believe in freedom of religion and think it should be protected. But I also think it is given way too much attention and should be a private thing. There is nothing worse than someone pushing or forcing their beliefs on you when you just don't care and don't want to hear it.

It sells advertising, that is why they do it.

Yeah I guess it is more interesting to watch a dumb @ss than to watch news about something relevant. The almighty dollar.

They shouldn't have given this clown so much attention. This and the GZ mosque have taken over the media and distracted from real issues.

I'll tell you what else, evi. When I was a young adult, the newspaper, the Washington Post, divided job postings by race and sex. White women, White men, "Colored" women and "Colored" men all had their categories limiting the types of jobs they could apply for. We could not shop on Sunday; stores had to be closed by law. There were many places we could not go or eat or lodge at when traveling because we were not "White enough" or "Christian". Churches were, and remain, the most racially segregated places in most towns. The death penalty, based on an eye for an eye, was disproportionately alloted to Blacks. Muslim children were routinely removed from Muslim parents to be raised as Christians by "wholesome" Christian families. The same was done to Native American children, condoned by the government that allowed Christian missionaries to run roughshod over their reservation charges, Much of this debasement was shared by Jews, also the "Other", who bonded together with other minority groups and rebel Christians to try to change things for the better.

I remember this about Christian America of my youth, and I'm only 59 years old. I'm also Arab, and I know how hypocritical it is to denounce my faith, which most non-Muslims know so LITTLE about, when there was so much wrong done in the name of Christianity in my lifetime, not just in the US, but in other Christian dominated countries, like South Africa.

Denial is a luxury not everyone has access to.

It sounds like you grew up in Mississippi! Although I know my wife and I drove through Appalachia a while back and when we stopped in a gas station the hillbilly almost passed out and died of a heart attack when she seen us.

Which of the 13 Achievements do you think should be off that list?

There should be a literacy test to vote. I do quite a bit of work in Detroit and you should have seen some of the people in 2008 screaming for Obama. I asked them why are they voting for Obama, what are his plans and his policies. They couldn't answer that, the only reason they could give is "he is black".

Religion related to poverty

if he'd quit wiping his butt on the carpet, that wouldn't happen.

Maybe he has pinworms

You know what sounds like a great idea!?!?!? Ban guns in the U.S. so the Mexican criminals can murder, hold hostages for ransom, and terrorize here as well as their side of the border! It always solves all problems when you leave the common law abiding citizen defenseless!

How do they know it was donated and not someone trying to get rid of something fast?

Affirmative action in this day and age is a big pile of cr@p.

How does one know if one is properly assimilated? Can one can fluently speak and write English, hold down a job for decades, pay taxes, have kids who go to either Yale or SUNY... and still be considered unassimilated?

Not unless Jesus is your savior

That is the problem when religion runs a government, some things should just be left for God to decide unless you raped and killed a child or something of that nature (then you should be tortured and executed). It is unfortunate this woman is being made an example of. Iran and other countries governed by religion has everything western countries do....drugs, murder, prostitution, homosexuality.....but I guess the trick is not getting caught. I hope she is acquitted because none of us really know what her situation at home was like or what drove her to do the things she did.

I am not saying this article is true....and I'm not saying isn't true. I just find it odd that Iranians would be giving support to the taliban. The taliban views the Iranians as heretics and infidels because they are shia. In turn the Iranians view the taliban as heretics because of their beliefs and practices. It is also well known that the taliban abuses, mistreats, and tortures the shia in Afghanistan.

Just a useless bit of info:

When I lived in NJ area, everyone called it "Great Adventure", not Six flags.....

Was there a name change?

I think because there are so many Six Flags people just call it that last part of the name to avoid confusion. There is a Six Flags Magic Mountain in California and people just call it Magic Mountain.

They are so awful because they go on and on and the same thing is repeated over and over. These people find snippets of information on google and argue about things that they would otherwise know nothing about. On top of that they keep an online thesaurus and dictionary close by and look for the most complicated words they can find to pull together a sentence that makes absolutely no sense because the synonyms they have pulled together completely change the meaning of the point they were originally trying to make....all of this is done in order to appear more intelligent than the person they are debating with.