WARREN-IRINA

For us it took from July 14 2010 to a March 30 2011 interview. That 8 months 2 weeks and 2 days so it hasn't changed much in 10 years.

Like J Clark says reschedule if you can.

The whole process is very stressful. It is also frustrating at times after arrival as USCIS often is slower than a glacier.   

Pray and hope for the best outcome.

I got a call back Nov 28 on the second call to my congressman office. The lady said CSA said they have been waiting for the Saly Lake to send Irinas Bio's. I thought that was suposed to have been done 8-10 months ago. Any way CSA is suposed to expidite it and it should be done in 2 weeks.

one other piece of good news was my daughter in law finally was able to carry a baby full term. finally after 7 grand kids and 7 great grandkids from my daughter I get a grandson to pass on my name. He was born 25 years to the day from when his grandmother died (my late wife).

Nate did Dana recieve her I-185 NOA1? Bio?

We are in somewhat the same boat. Irina recieved her I-184 NOA1 2011-12-28. She did her Bio. Appt 2012-01-20. Feb. 27 2012 they sent a NOA transfer notice stating "This is to advise you that in order to speed up processing we have transfered the above case to the following USCIS office for processing: Califorina Service Center. That was the last we heard from them. We had our congressmans office contact them a month ago and they told us USCIS said 30 days and to call back if if Irina had not recieved anything which we did today.

You’re not alone. I took Irina into our congressman’s office yesterday and had her sign the privacy of information paper so they could look into it.

I-797C, NOA, Transfer Notice dated Feb. 27, 2012 states “This is to advise you that in order to speed up processing we have transferred the above case to the following USCIS office for processing: California Service Center, 2nd Flr, 24000 Avila Road, Laguna Niguel CA.”

If this does not work the next step is a visit Sen. Orrin Hatch’s office.

Event Date

CIS Office : Salt Lake City UT

Date Filed : 2011-12-19

NOA Date : 2011-12-28

RFE(s) :

Bio. Appt. : 2012-01-20

AOS Transfer** : 2012-02-27

Our NOA2 was Jan 13, it left NVC Feb. 1 and Irina's interview was Mar. 30. Get everything ready as her Pack #3 arrived in her town the day of her Med exam. in Moscow and she did not get it until several days after she retuned home following her interview.

I am retired so I don't really have to work but it can pay for trips to visit the great wonders of the American West. There are must see places Zion’s Nation Park, Capital Reef NP, Bryce Canyon NP, Arches NP, Canyon Lands NP, Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Dinosaur NM, Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, all in Utah plus many state parks and Grand Canyon NP Sawtooth Mts NRA, Hells Canyon of the Snake River in Idaho, Yellow Stone NP, Jackson Hole area in Wyoming, Great Basin NP in Nevada all within a day’s drive of where I live.

My job is during the construction season so winters are free to take the travel trailer south to warmer weather.

I know hundreds of scenic mountain roads in the area national forests around here too if she wants to go. I have an extra 26 gallon tank on my Dakota 4 wheel drive pickup that gives me 500 to 700 miles on dirt roads to 1000 to 1300 mile highway range without refueling. If I drive it like I own it, not like I stole it, I get 20 to 22 MPG with the 318 V8 5 speed.

Visiting my sisters in Albuquerque New Mexico and West Port Washington are on the list. I want to see her eyes as we go off the Deadman Pass on I-84 into Pendleton Oregon.

She already knows she is going to visit the 4 wheel drive trails of the Moab area. What I didn't tell her is the T-shirt says, "Get in, Sit Down, Shut Up, HOLD ON!!!". Too bad she will miss this year’s Red Rock 4 Wheelers Easter Jeep Safari which started the 16th and ends the 24th. Next year?? Maybe the quitter Red Rock 4 Wheelers Labor Day weekend event. I have drove to Moab Friday night ran trails Sat. and Sunday and was back to work Monday morning before many times.

She said she wanted to see places so it is up to her.

My Rat Terrier got a little hipper after talking to her on the phone last night. She loves to talk to him. He will get to add 2 states to his list of states he has been in making it 40 and it got him wound up when I told him we would take a trip to LAX to pick her up. We will come back by Highway One up the California coast then over Donner Pass or through the Feather River Canyon into Nevada. The there is the 40 miles of flat as a table top and straight as an arrow across the Bonneville Salt Flats.

As for my driving she will take a few trips with me in the truck locally. There have been requests at places I go to meet her. My boss told my brother he wanted her as an accountant as he is sick of the one he has. My brother may send us out in his truck or take us with him during the winter for her to see Eastern America too. He hauls Idaho potatoes to the east coast to be picked up by Canadian drivers going back to Canada after delivering Canadian goods to the US. Running team with him would give time to visit museums which we both have done when we had time before. It is up to her if she wants to go. Double bunk sleeper cab. She gets the right seat to ride in as I have seen American roads coast to coast, Gulf of Mexico to Canada.

She earned my respect when she called me sobbing and crying, “Where are you and how are you?” as she was watching Hurricane Rita tearing a path through southeast Texas on Russian TV and knew I was driving a truck in Texas. That was 4 years before we met in Russia. After three American SCAM ARTISTS after my wife died I took very carefully. I thought I had blown it after I arrived in Moscow. We were in the cab going from the airport when I realized I had my wedding band from late wife on my left little finger and she was rubbing it with her fingers. I told her I would take it off. “No, leave it on. It is good you remember her,” she said. The cab driver must have spoken English as he nearly run off the road looking back at her and there was a surprised look on his face.

She is a keeper for sure.

Many thanks to all of you.

I'm working 14-16 hour days so here is the short version.

Irina got her visa 18 April. Interview was 30 March.

Thank You everyone. 7J

Irina has her license but has not driven for a few years. I am going to take her to work on some of the contrution and demolition jobs and let her get a feel of truck driving and see some of the stupid things I see peole do while driving.

There is a truck driving school by my bosses yard so I can let her look at how the teach truck drivers. Those instructors walk beside the trucks as they teach the student driver to back and park the trucks. (I learned delivering hay in barnyards designed in the horse and wagon days.)

When I take Irina out to check out her driving skills it will be in the desert or in the forest where there is no traffic. If It looks like she needs help I will send her with my daughter and let them sort it out.

Gary you sound like you took Alla to Moab on the Steel Bender or Metal Masher 4X4 Trails.

If you go to the Easter Jeep Safari and screw up, the Red Rock 4 Wheelers will put some kind of a name on that spot forever to remember you by. Like an unsecured lunch in the back of a jeep and the hill has been called Patato Salad Hill for over 30 years now.

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The words fit most of our feelings.

Irina says try this if you want to find a room(s) near Sochi.

"As they would like to stay in Hosta I have a telephone number of kvartirnoye biuro, this is some office where they can to find some place to stay."

Address in russian

Сочи, Хоста, ул.50 лет СССР, 17-а

тел/факс (8622) 65-03-62

email hosta-otdykh@mail.ru

www.hostaotdykh.ru

International Women's Day 8 March 2011. If you don't want to sleep with an ICEBURG don't forget.

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This is the 100th Anniversary Celebration.

I sent you an email. Irina might be able to find you contact info. She has rented a room in a house before near Sochi.

Valentine’s Day is not celebrated in all countries. In fact if you check out this news item from Feb 13, 2011 in southern India it was protested by burning Valentine cards.

. http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asia/Valentines-Day-Not-Loved-in-Many-Areas-of-the-World-116132679.html

Valentine's Day Not Loved in Many Areas of the World

Monday marks the celebration of Valentine’s Day by much of the world.

But it is a celebration that is drawing protests in some areas.

In Southern India, members of a Hindu political party recently gathered to burn Valentine’s Day cards.

One protestor said he is against what he called the "cultural exploitation" of the day. He added people sharing sexual greetings with each other in public in the name of Valentine’s Day should be strongly condemned.

Many Islamic nations, including Saudi Arabia and Iran, have banned the celebration of Valentine’s Day. Iranian officials say they will take action against those who ignore the ban.

That said guy's just don't forget International Woman’s Day. It means so much more in some countries than valentine’s day does here and many in those countries never heard of valentines.

Mr. Florida did you try to learn of her culture and beliefs? Do you expect her to know ours? You give very little to go on. It appears she is very young but you do not appear to be very old or at least emotionally.

Moving to another country and total different cultures is not easy. She is entitled to have reservations. It is a fear of the unknown. I did not or the other 150 guys I shipped out with want to spend 18 months in Asia during Johnson's Southeast Asia War Games. I can understand her fears.

The K1 is designed to have the person come here for up to 90 days to see if they think they can make the changes in life styles work and to give them time to somewhat get to know each other. The purpose is to let two people decide if they think it will work during the 90 days. It should be approached as come visit and decide. No pressure except the 90 day deadline. If she knew she had that choice and no hard feeling if she went back and you would not be crying about the money and time spent in the relationship it would be easier for her to have come.

About relationships. First and foremost if a man and a woman tell me they live together and never argue or disagree I know something is wrong. They are either lying or one is totally submissive or plain too scared to argue.

It is often the small little things that destroy relationships.

Remember this and it applies to people and love too besides the bird in the T-shirt I bought for my late wife years ago after a problem. If you love something set it free. If it comes back it is yours. If it doesn’t, it never was. .

I sent a copy of my state issued Birth certificate and the pages of my Passport that were used during my Russian visit and a notation that all the other pages were blank.

The only other time I have been outside the US was 18 months in Okinawa on military orders for Lyndon Johnson’s Southeast Asia war games in 1967-68 and I listed the barrack’s address as an overseas address. Passports were not required to go there.

Our petition left NVC for Moscow the “Week of Feb. 1” NVC said Tue Feb. 8.

If you send your petition to a service center it will just be returned to you with a note telling you to send it to the Texas Lockbox. This is from the USCIS web site dated 6/14/10. The lockbox will enter it into the system forward it to the proper service center where you will recieve your NOA1 when they recieve it from the lockbox.

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Change of Filing Location for Form I-129F, Petition for Alien Fiancé(e)

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Beginning Aug. 3, 2010 all Form I-129F petitions being filed by a U.S. citizen on behalf of a fiancé(e) or spouse must be submitted to the USCIS Dallas Lockbox facility.

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PO Box 660151

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USCIS

Attn: I-129F

2501 South State Highway 121 Business

Suite 400

Lewisville, TX 75067

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The Vermont and California Service Centers will forward incorrectly filed petitions to the USCIS Dallas Lockbox for a period of 45 days until Sept. 17, 2010. After Sept. 17, 2010, petitions and fees submitted at the Service Centers will be returned to the applicant, with a note advising them of the correct filing location.Applicants filing a form at a USCIS Lockbox facility may elect to receive an e-mail and/or text message notifying them that their petition has been accepted by completing Form G-1145, E-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance, and attaching it to the first page of their application.

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My Darling Warren,

I find in internet address where I can ask about police certificate

and maybe get it.

It is in Moscow. Now I will go to ask about this

in Kaliningrad office.

I got this from Irina but do not have the adress. I have emailed her to see if I can get it for you. Kaliningrad police told Irina they would get her a cerifacate including the time she lived in the Ukraine. They may be able to do this with the two countries formerly being part of the USSR and she was in the Ukraine in the 1960's.

Have her check with the Ukraine police on if they can do that too.

I will ask about Russia. Our son had to get a police certificate from Russia as he is a student in Moscow. We actually got the exact information from Baron555's (now) wife and she even offered to go with our son there.

In Donetsk we went to the main police station. We had to wait in a line in the basement to find the right "door". It was comical actually. Finally we found which was the right office and we turned over a copy of Alla's internal passport and her birth certificate and some passport photos. We then had to go across town and pay for the certificate at a particular bank branch and then come back and bring the receipt (waiting in line again, of course) It was an all day procedure. She got her police certificate in 3 weeks (everything in Ukraine takes 3 weeks) We were also offered the opportunity to pay a bribe and get it sooner, but we had plenty of time. She actually got the police certificate before we filed the petition (the consulate accepts them for 1 year regardless of any expiration date on the certificate)

Our son, on the other hand learned he needed the Russian certificate at the last minute. He brouhgt a copy of his Ukrainian police certificate and $20 and he got his Russian certificate in about a week. They had said "Oh this will take a long time because we have to check with Ukraine...blah, blah, blah" He handed over the Ukraine police certificate and the $20 bill and they looked at the Ukraine certificate and said "Oh this will help, come to see us in one week" They kept the $20 bill.

Whenever a Russian or Ukrainian clerk starts to tell you how long something will take or how difficult it is or that the "man who needs to sign this is on vacation" THAT is your clue to start showing cash.

I talked to Irina a little while ago. She said Kaliningrad told her they would get a police report from where she has lived since she was 16 and it would include the Ukraine. Her niece went with her. They said about a month.

Gary I have a St Alban Vermont tale to tell you. In 2006 I was hauing cookies in my semi from the Cookie Tree Bakery in Salt Lake City. I washed the trailer out with a pressure washer here at home and went down and loaded. Since it was a frozen load I set the temperature at zero in the trailer. Due to the fact the floor was still damp and the loading dock is on a slope the fork lift spun some and left some rubber marks an fine particals on the floor. I made two drops on the way to Hatfield PA. When I got there the Cookie Tree had and urgent message and paper work. Go to St. Alban and get a load of Chocolate and hurry back. Their buyer in had gone on vacation and somehow they were nearly out of chocolate and would have to shut down in 4 days until it came in.

I arrived at Barry Callebau on Industrial Park Road and was informed the trailer was too dirty to load and I would not be able to have the pallets in the trailer either because they were used and to dirty. There had been forklifts in once to load and three times to unload. It was not dirty and they would not just let me sweep up the rubber either. Pallets were standard industry used not new but in average condition.

You always have the same number of pallets on your delivered load put back on so CT can have them back to ship again on or you get charged for the missing pallets. So I go back to the truck stop and get it cleaned out again at that garage behind it and had to unload the pallets by hand. Barry loaded and put a seal on the door so I could not pick up the Cookie Tree’s pallets.

A week later my brother had to go pick up another load in his truck. Cookie Tree had him wash the truck out before went to Barry. He got loaded and followed the same route I did west across the lake using I-89, V78, US12 and US 11 to I-87.

He always wears dark grey and black clothes and had been to the Ukraine and Moscow about 1997-98 with a group of American guy looking for wives and he had tried to buy something from a street vendor and was told he couldn’t because he was a Russian that had been to America and learned English. After showing his passport and trying to talk in Russian the guy gave in. Must be that 1/4 Swedish and Norwegian blood with the blue eyes. He thought that was something great.

Anyway as he started south on I-87 there were a bunch of police cars on the ramp and they pulled him over. NY state police and the border patrol thought he was an eastern European illegal emigrant that had snuck across from Canada. He call me up madder than a wet hen. We are the 11th generation born on American soil on one side of the family and the last was the Norwegian gr. grand mother that came in 1884.

I question why we need a state gun too. It has only passed the huse committee so far. Some people are going to argue against it just on the principal that it was a Browning FN model 1910 used to kill Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife that lead to the start of WW1.

VV Happy belated birthday

I bought a Springfield M1A in .308 (7.62x51) for my birthday in 88. I have kicked my butt ever since that I did not get it in .243. Springfield quit offering the .243, 270and 30.06 shortly after and they are rare and hard to find now. I spotted one on Gun Brokers last week but decided I needed the $1900 to get Irina her worse than the .243.

A friend had a 357 Ruger Blackhawk and a guy ask him if he could shoot it. White had .38's in it and let the guy shoot them. He told him he was reloading it with 357. While he was reloading looked at me and winked. When he had it loaded he handed the 357 to me as I passed him my Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 mag and the guy never noticed until after he pulled the trigger.

I bought the 44 for my birthday in 68 in the PX in Okinawa.

I see where Utah is going to name the Browning M1911 their official state gun. I guess state birds, trees, flowers, etc. are all used up so they wanted to start a new category. I wonder how long it will take for other states to adopt their official state gun. The race is on to get your official state gun before some other state nabs it.

The Idea of making the M1911 the Utah state gun is to honor John Moses Browning (January 23, 1855 – November 26, 1926), Ogden Utah born American firearms designer who developed many varieties of firearms, cartridges, and gun mechanisms, many of which are still in use around the world. He is arguably the most important figure in the development of modern automatic and semi-automatic firearms and is credited with 128 gun patents.

Browning influenced nearly all categories of firearms design. He invented or made significant improvements to single-shot rifles, lever-action rifles, and slide-action firearms. His most significant contributions were in the area of autoloading firearms. He developed the first reliable and compact autoloading pistols by inventing the telescoping bolt, integrating the bolt and barrel shroud into what is known as the slide. Browning's telescoping bolt design is now found on nearly every modern semi-automatic pistol, as well as several modern fully automatic weapons.

Browning's most successful designs include the M1911 pistol, the Browning .50 caliber machine gun, the Browning Automatic Rifle, and semi-automatic shotgun, the Browning Auto-5. These arms are nearly identical today to those assembled by Browning in the 1920s, with only minor changes in detail and cosmetics. Nearly all parts may be freely swapped between the earliest and latest of each series of these weapons, no matter when made, which has extended their service lifespan nearly indefinitely.

The original prototype serial no. 1 Colt Commercial Browning 1917 .30 caliber self-loading water-cooled machine gun was stolen from the John M. Browning Museum in Ogden Union Station (during a model train show in the building) on March 2, 1995, and has not been recovered. There is a good reward for the arrest of the culprits and recovery of it.

I received the following email from Irina.

I went to police office in Mamonovo and

asked them about what kind of form they can give me

about my history here in Kaliningrad (police sertificfte). They thought

and told me they never give to anybody it. Offiser said

his mother went to live in Germany but did not

ask something like this. Also many people moved

to live to an other country from Mamonovo

and they never heard about this.

Tomorrow I will go and ask about this police sertificate

in Kaliningrad.

These questions are for those who have gone through this in Russia and Ukraine.

How does she get her police certificates? She was born in Angarsk, Irkutsk Oblast and moved to the Ukraine at age 14 in 1965 when her parents retired. When she graduated for high school she went to Moscow to collage so she will need a Ukraine and Moscow police certificates. She married and they moved to Severodvinsk, Arkhangelsk Oblast where she lived until moving to Kaliningrad, Kaliningrad Oblast in 2006, in 2008 she bought her apartment in Mamonovo, Kaliningrad Oblast where she has lived since.

She did go into see the Kaliningrad police today and was told to come back.

Will she have to travel to Severodvinsk, Moscow and the Ukraine to get those?

Does anyone know of a phone number in Ukraine for her to ask there about a certificate from them?

Irina’s niece who lives in California is there helping her some. Elena came on an immigrant visa and was here a number of years before marrying her husband so she came on a different process than the K1. She had visited the US and was teaching English in Moscow when I met Irina on the internet.

Elena was shook up when I talked to her Monday as she had arrived at Domodedovo Airport Saturday, flying out of it to Kaliningrad Sunday and has to return back through it when she leaves. They did not have the TV on and I broke the news to them of the bombing when I called Irina just after hearing the news. Elena is a realtor here and when back to help her father sell his home and buy another one.

Thank you in advance for the help.

Spain is one of the 15 Schengen countries, which means, a resident of any of the Schengen countries or holder of a Schengen visa can freely travel within these countries, without a separate visa for each of them. Russia is not a member.

She has to apply for her visa on her Russian passport. If there is any chance you will travel to any of the other Schengen countries get the Schengen visa. One thing to think about is IF for some reason air traffic is shut down in Spain like another ICELAND VOLCANO blowing its's top she can travel by land to another airport out side of Spain.

; Hi Brian!!

I just read your post and I can imagine that this is very stressful for you.

You guys have gone such a long way already, and you'll receive your NOA2 within a month or so. It would be stupid to cancel the K1 Visa Process, where you already paid the fee and other oncost, just because of having a big wedding.

As a girl, I also dream(ed) about my princess dream wedding. But like I said, you have to "roeien met de riemen die je hebt" (I don't know the English saying). Use the tools you have, something like that .

I don't really understand that she is thinking about herself only. Especially this far on the journey. A year is nothing compared to a life time together? Well, why not adding this year to your lives together, it's a whole year, 365 days!! DANG, I would walk over dead bodies to be with Aaron and can't wait for an other year, like most members here.

It's not fair that she doesn't put herself open to alternatives. There is nothing wrong to put everything on PAPER first and save money (AND BE TOGETHER) for her 'dream' wedding. Instead, she wants to be seperate from you for an other year. Doesn't make sense to me at all . If you love each other, nothing else matters.

Why a big wedding, if your love counts? Does she wants to make a huge impression to her family/friends? Is that what really matters? IMPOV, not really... It's about you and her.

It's selfish of her, and what if things like this happen in your married future? That only her opinion counts?!

You really should talk to her, deal with this as a couple and tell her that she should considder your suggestion. WEDDING IS WEDDING, it's about the wedding vows, not about all the fancy stuff around it. The fancy stuff around it will dissapear after a day, but your promises/vows will last a life time...

Keep us posted, and remember;

Love is a partnership, not some one way street...

xoxox Channah

roeien met de riemen die je hebt is make do with what you have

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I like your comment Love is a partnership, not some one way street...[/color as it is one thousand percent true. I am here after buring a wife that thought that and then finding 3 that thought it was as one way steet and I was always going the wrong way.

It becomes a living hell to find the vows they took was "all I want is my own way and we will not talk of compromise, I tricked you for my own greed. Just live with it."

After the K1 gets into the system immigration may think she is trying to immigrate and stop her at the boarder if she drives or airport and force her to go back. This has been discussed here a lot. Do a search of the posts.

You cannot get a K1 then marry in any foreign country as it voids the K1. If you marry in Canada you would file CR1 which takes longer. Do a search of the posts here too.

You can only marry once unless you divorce but many couples do what is called renewing their vows. Most do it on special occasions like their 25th wedding anniversary and a few others I know of have after an “unfaithful event”...