BellaRose

May I know how were you able to request for a certified divorce papers with irridescent seal? My husband's divorce papers were just printed on plain paper and certified. I hope you can tell me how so I would let my husband request for it also in case they'd prefer that document.

I did it all online actually. I googled divorce records for the state of the divorce. It was Utah and they were in collaboration with VITALCHECK.com. I requested the document through the website and they had me scan proof of my identity, proof of my marriage to my husband, AND a power of attorney letter. My husband typed up a simple letter saying I had power of attorney and got it notarized by a government agency in his country. This is all proof that I was allowed to request a document that wasn't my own divorce. I received it in the express mail within 4 days after I requested it. It came out to 58 dollars (including express mail option)

i would make it a point though even if not required to put your france addresses to further demonstrate that you were both in france during the same time....when you met.

In your home country the U.S. you have to list every residence that you have stayed at for more than 6 months. If you have lived outside of your country you must also include those residences for the same time periods of 6 months minimums. This is the same for your fiance.

Just for future reference... the police certificates needed for your fiance since he has lived in multiple countries....of course one from his home country and one from any country that he has lived in more than one year (not 6 months).

I'm assuming your documents are original certified copies from issued by the nonUS country. They gave me this same issue. I sent them the original divorce papers of my husband. Which was printed on plain paper with a stamp that said certified copy of the issuing state. They did not accept it. I called NVC and insisted on that it was the original document that was given to him and it said certified copy on it. They said they will put in a note to reveiw it and call back in 10-15 days. I still received the RFE.

So I requested another certified document. And what I just received in the mail looks much prettier and more legitimate. Pretty colors, red and blue fibers, irridescent seal...I believe they will be much more pleased with this.

Our last interveiw they request another birth certificate for my husband and the new one had more security measures on it. Some of these documents are old and can be easily forged. In my experience requesting new documentation means that the new security technologies will be used to produce the document.

So yes. Wait for the RFE. Get your paperwork apostilled and send them what they want. Don't just wait and hope that they will change their mind about your documentation. In their eyes they didnt make a mistake.

For those of you who have Viet fiancee or wife...do you think they are bossy? My two ex-wives sure was. I hope my current fiancee doesn't become like that later on.

"A" for effort for sticking with the same natioanlity after two failed marriages. But you can't classify an entire nationality into one personality group. You at least can compare. If you have two previous marriages that failed then I'm sure you can look back and remember the first signs of the personality traits you didnt like. You grow wiser.

Also don't blame everything on your wife either. This is a two way street and your personality and actions can greatly influence the attitudes of your spouse. I just hope there were other reasons for divorcing your wives besides the fact that they were "bossy". What do you mean by bossy anyway.

Like they wouldn't let you go out and party or random nonesense arguments that could be a sign of larger underlying issues within the relationship that are hard to verbalize so a spouses emotional state can change (i.e. bossy, irritated, annoyed, frustrated)

Just my experiences that wasn't directed at you because I don't know your specific situation.

I'm sure they were yes no questions in relation to his papers. like "Do you have your papers on you" answer no. when he tried to explain that his papers were at home the police didn't beleive him and I'm sure he was aggrevated as anyone would be and got into a verbal argument with the police. Which is enough to take him into custody. This is common in profiling discrimination, but in this case the police were wrong and the defendent was soon let go once proper documentation was varified. He didn't commit any crime, but the argument with police was look at leniently and he was only given a verbal probationary period to keep an "eye" on him. This all could have been avoided if he had his paperwork on him which I'm sure he learned his lesson. No big deal.

I agree...my husband has lived through the tsunami in Samoa during the process and it is two years and counting AND I STILL believe Haiti cases are worse off than my husband. As long as my spouse is healthy I will not be asking for any favors. But if there was a cholera epidemic I would persue the expedite.

P.S. I did contact my senator when my case wasn't touched for 10 months and the normal processing time was 3 months. He did contact USCIS and eventhough he call me back and told me the same thing USCIS was telling me.....Magically I received an action on my case in the mail within the next two weeks. My case was not expedited but maybe the simple call from the senator made them physically pick my case up and look at it. (This was the re-affirmation process which takes zero priority over other cases)

So yes, congressmen contacting immigration on behalf of you case was benificial from my standpoint, but should not be abused (i.e. for regular processing run-of-the-mill cases) Haiti is not a run-of-the-mill case in its current state.

There are two internet cafes on the island that must be paid for to use. And he does not have access to the computer on a regualar basis. He still knows how to read and write but his thought processes have diminished. The brain is a muscle and needs excercise. When you aren't exposed to "paperwork" for a long time, simple instructions can sound confusing. The courses sound like a good idea. I guess he could even go into a technical school like cooking or construction that is more hands on to transition him into a possible (am I pushing it) associates degree of applied science?

"Aztec and Taino"...absolutely it is an amazing place. I would actually rather live there and bring my children up in that envirionment. I tried to move there with him last year, but after a month my one year old daughter got sick to the point of me getting on the next plane and rushing her to the hospital in the states where she was admitted. I went through various medical treatments as well but not to the point of hospitalizations. The culture is amazing but our immune systems can't cope with the environment (another backlash of the states: we arent bread for survival). A dream of mine is to save enough money to build a small house with some western ammenities and build a little corner store for income in his country. But that is far away from where we are now. Thanks for your comment because I feel the same way about the U.S. sometimes.

I much prefer my Tarzan also. At least ours are raised on hard work, values, and appreciation...and not greed and power. It comes down to how they treat you and make you feel, never what kind of car they can put you in.

My family in particular likes to preach "stability'..."You should be with a guy who is stable" Ok so I'll marry the wealthy man for wealth and family politics and when my kids are grown I'll end up in a divorce with the backlash of secretive affairs coming to light. I dont believe that is stable. Love is stable and never dies, everything else can be obtained.

Never lose hope. If you take a look at my timeline you will automatically consider yourself lucky. Two years, a denial, a tsunami, felonies plural, interveiws are in a seperate country and require seperate visas, and an overstay. But looking foward to another interview denial and to begin the waiver process around february. (Don't mind my sarcasm because I'm actually happy I'm going to visit my husband in 7 days...otherwise I'm usually bitter)

Glad I could make you feel better about your case around the holidays lol. I'm sure you could find a co-sponser and as long as your loved one is still healthy there is hope. Good Luck with everything...this is only a small bumo in the road. Nothing we can't handle for love.

I'll give my personal situation first but I would like to get some advice on how to make the adjustment from life from the home country to life in the U.S. as easy as possible for my husband.

I met my husband here in the States. He had already lived here for seven years prior to our meeting and was very adjusted. We lived together for a year and he has been in his home country for the past two years waiting for our case to go through. Now his day consists of farming, fishing, climbing trees for cocnuts, making a fire from scratch to cook his recent hunt, and sleeping in a structure with no walls. (i.e. Survivor Samoa)

He would sometimes call me and ask how to look something up on the computer (basic google search) but when he was here he was on the internet more than I was. I wasn't exactly concerned until yesterday I emailed him a single page form to fill out for NVC (which consisted of name birthday address and signature). And later on he told me he was confused. So I retyped the entire form with answers into an email. He again said he was now confused on which to print and send to me. I literally had to instruct him to pick up a pen and fill the form out step by step. He laughed because he finally realized what a reject he was being but come to think of it he hasnt filled a form out in two years because I have been doing this whole process. I can't blame him.

Anyway I never thought that he would need a re-adjustment period but it will be over two years away from civilization. And honestly I'm worried because he will come back a changed person. I'm still in love with him, but life at home will most likely be different than what it was when I first lived with him. Mostly because many things have changed around here and I will have to get him up to speed from his current state.

I was just wondering what I could do to make it easier on him. Does anyone have opinions from a USC stand point or veiws of those who came here and went through the adjustment process already?

Sorry I should be a bit clearer before someone corrects me. If they are convicted of a felony or a crime of moral turptitude that will pose many issues for you. If he was arrested for a felony and not yet convicted...if the maximum sentence at trial is one year that is most likely a denial. If there are multiple arrests with the maximum sentence of five years-->denial. A crime involving prostitution or drug smuggling/selling-denial. Possesion of 30mg or less of marijuana--waiver. Also if the crime was done five years ago they are more leniant in waiver cases or if the benificiary was younger than 18 years old at the time.

Like I said, just be honest and you are 100% fine.

You are fine. From my understanding they will only deny you if committed a crime of moral turptitude. Which would be more like a felony or aggravate offense thaqt would have a maximum sentence of one year and if it is a combination of offenses its five years. Do not lie on your application. Just provide them with the arrest, court, or release papers.

Good luck

I beleive they took a bit of advantage of him the first interview. I beleive if I was there with him and brought all of documents some of the reasons for denial could have be avoided.

And yes if it means our interview will go a bit more smoothly...by hook or crook I will find the funds to get there.

Thanks for the fast replies.

I saw a profile comment that I had the same question about. We should be getting a scheduled interveiw soon and I'm debating whether it is a good idea to go to the interveiw with him. (Our first interveiw was denied when I wasn't present) So maybe if they see us together it will be better or maybe I can explain things better than he can...but my only concern are those individual interrogations and cross-referencing notes. Just wanted some opinions.

P.S. I contacted the consulate already and they said I could accompany him to interview.

Thank you for the quick reply. Of course I would respond to the RFE Probably send them the New Zealand clearance just because even though I know they don't need it. But I am only able to obtain another certified copy of the divorce (exactly what I already sent which they turned down) .... I haven't received a generated RFE yet so either they fixed it in the system or I need to be calling them to remind them to still send it.

I feel like I'm rambling...I'm loosing it. lol

OK, so here is what the representative explained to me.

Rep: On Dec 14 your case was issued an RFE for 1. No original or certified divorce certificate and 2. You need a police clearance for New Zealand

Me: The divorce paper is a certified copy of the original that I sent to you. Do you want me to request another certified copy.

Rep: Pause....ummm no

Me: The website says that you didn't need police clearance for cuntries lived in less than a year. My husband was only in New Zealand for his U.S. K-3 visa interveiw...he was there only six months.

Rep: Ummmm So he is not still in New Zealand

Me: No he is in his home counrty because that NZ visa expired.

Rep: Well then you should just write us a letter saying what you just told me.

Me: So I have to write you guys a letter to tell you that everything was included in my packet?

Rep: Yeah you could do that when you receive the RFE

Me: There's no way to make a note on my case to just look at the packet I submitted with the information I just gave to you.

Rep: Ok I'll make a note for them to reveiw it.

Me: Well I didn't receive the RFE yet, maybe it wasn't sent to my email? Could I request that it be resent?

Rep: The RFE wasn't generated yet.

Me: Ok so are you making a note to reveiw my case or should wait for the Rfe and send a letter.

Rep: You could wait 10-15 business days and call back to see about the reveiw and disregard the RFE, or you could wait for the RFE and send them a letter.

Still no RFE generated and still confused. (this is me just venting my confusion)Maybe someone can translate this conversation I had.

I'm right there with you. I just found out they sent an RFE 12/14 over nonsense.

I called them. They sent me an RFE. I sent them a certified copy of his divorce degree they say they want the original. And they said they need a police clearence from a country that he lived in for less than 12 months. (which the civil documents states any other country that the benificiary lives in less than 12 months does require a police clearance ) Wonderful. Welcome to my life.

File the police report, make sure you and your child is included. Make sure you get a divorce and fight for full custody(if the child is his) , with no ties to him. I wouldn't even pursue child support. People like that will like to keep you in their control and close to their reach for manipulation purposes. Him assisting you financially or having visiting rights or anything would put you in a bad position. Also if your child is schoolage...go right away to their school or daycare and put your husband on the non-release forms. This way they are not allowed to send your child home with your husband...you may need to provide the pending court case documents.

Tie-up loose ends, cut communications, and protect yourself. So sorry for your situation, but if you left him, that shows you are strong-willed and his mind games didn't hold up.

What date did NVC receive your Ds-230 package? NVC is taking about two weeks from when received to when it's entered into the system. Look at my signature. Try calling again later in the day to check.

They received it to my knowledge on Nov. 24. Does this mean I could be in administrative processing? Every time I call and ask they say give it 20 days for them to put it in the system. Well it's been 20 days now. Maybe they are withholding information from me. It would really suck if my case was in AP. I'm sad now. I'm really almost to the point of giving up and finding another country we can live in together. This is rediculous.

I sent my DS-230 20 days ago. I know they received it because they signed for it. But they still didn't pick it up to enter it into the system. NVC is usually on the ball....what's the issue? Is anyone else experiencing a slow NVC process?

Umm obviously Im not deal with the Philipines however I did want to comment. I have been on both sides of the spectrum. At first I was getting a little annoyed that my husband kept on asking for money. There was always some problem, some fee, some anything that required my giving him funds. Which I did, I sent about 100 weekly and more for special circumstances. But, life in the US is hard also as a "single" mother waiting two years so far processing immigration papers.

Even when I visited his country the first time with our daughter (stayed one month) I was reluctant to hand him money because we were on a budget and he would just hand it to a family member. Anyway the second time I learned a lot more about the culture and understood that I was staying with his family members and some sort of payment had to be made and I took note of where the money was going all this time. The built us our own visiting house, he baught a taxi to create some income. Another family house that we stayed at was rebuilt after the tsunami hit. The church was rebuilt. I mean I feel like I am not only bettering his life, but his family, and their community.

I understand how some people flash money around to get someone to marry them or prove that there way of life is better to allure them to the states. Which I dont agree with. I had the privialage of meeting my husband in the states and when he had to go back to his country while we are petitioning I like knowing that he is taken of to some extent. The little luxuries that he had here which we take advantage of...like a fan, or a box of chicken, or a bottle of soda.

These are your future wives. It is your job to show them that they will be taken care of them. Unfortunately, when you are oceans away from them...it can only be shown financially.

if they forgot to check what additional info/docs they need from you, then you really need to call their hotline =)

I received something like that. You may need to read it more closely. Your instructions are on the third page if it says "The NVC has received the requested Affidavit of Support form (I-864) for this case. However, we are still waiting for the Immigrant Visa Application (DS-230) and corresponding civil documents for each traveling applicant to be returned to National Visa Center for review." Then they are reffering to the ds-230.

You said you sent in the ds230 already a week ago. They probably do not have it in their system yet. They received mine on Nov 24 and they still didnt put it in their system as received. They say give it 20 days for them to pick it up.

Definately try calling them again monday just to make your mind feel at ease.

Quick question does he need to get a police certificate twice? I am noticing that it is required for D-230 and for the interview as well, can you use the same one twice or does he have to get another one? how long does it take to get? and should I tell him to go for it now or wait for d-230. Certified Marriage Certificate- do we receive this back at the interview, we only have two copies and I know it takes a while to get one from the consulate correct?

Thanks.. for the help

You will receive all your original documents back after the consulate is finished with your case. The police certificates have an expiration date. my husband's country is valid for three months so I sent one in the ds230 packet to NVC. But if our interveiw is after january he will need an updated one to bring with him at interview.