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I-130 HAS BEEN

But not the I-129F...not yet, but it was touched today. I don't care...I'm so happy!!!! Shaking, crying, and feeling surreal.

Really happy for you Narina, I've been following your timeline and you waited a long time for your aproval, Congratulations you deserved it just like everybody else still waiting.

Abby

Is this an embassy with a lot of requests? Do they get booked quickly? Now that our case is complete I hope we get a date soon. If you have any experience with this embassy, pls let me know. Thanks!

Hi There:

Our case for CR1 was completed On Nov.28 2007, December 5th was when my interview was scheduled for January 29th 2008.

I hope it helps.

Abby

Just an opinion.

My soon to be wife and I had some fun talk last night on the phone.

She went to complete her medical appt and she mentioned to me that

"She found one" lol

I was confused at first what she was talking about, but she told me

about all the gossip between the women at SLEC hospital who were there

for their medical appts. All of them finding out about each others

case...She told me none of them mentioned love for the reason of

marrying and immigrating to the United States, but some had sincere

and good intention to make their marriages work once they got here.

But then she told me about the "one" She was very young maybe 22, and

giggly. And her words were clear...

"I dont love my fiance, I am just doing this because my parents want

me to go to the United States" hehehe

We had talked about these types many times in our relationship, I am

sure most of you can guess, that I was making sure that I was not

being duped myself. lol

This topic will be very long:

Now for the purposes of this thread, we are going to ASSUME that it is

clear that the Pilipina is using the Americano to get the green card

or U.S. citizenship status. We all know that this is not the case

with all or even most Pilipina women and that the majority of Pilipina

women are sincere and come here to marry and live for life with the

person that petitioned them.

But we do see a common trend that seems to be increasing among many

Pilipina women who are using the K-1 visa to come here, and really

have no intention of staying married. Over the past 5 yrs I have done

a lot of reading on Fil-Am relationships, and while decades ago you

would think that this was the perfect match made in heaven for a lot

of people, we now see that things may be breaking down between the two

groups. American people are changing, becoming a lot more

conservative. Philippine culture has changed immensely. Economic

conditions have proven to be the one thing that really supported the

bond between an American man and Pilipina woman. The man wanted a

faithful loving wife, and the woman wanted a good man who could

provide her a good family life. It’s nothing wrong with this either.

Men seek a woman they can trust, and women seek a man who has the

resources to take care of her and any children that may come along.

In the 70s and 80s it seemed to have worked well. If you look around

America you can see older couples that have succeeded from this era in

marriage. About 5 yrs ago I was in a mall and I saw an old

couple...both of them had to be in their 60s. The man was American,

and his wife Pilipina. What was amazing is that right there in the

mall this older couple was holding hands. Wow, what a good thing to see!

But lets be honest, the new Philippine culture has changed a lot over

the past few decades. Since the bases closed there in 1992, we see

that the culture has changed both for the better, and some for the

worst. The economic conditions seem to be bad in the Philippines,

many people who are from the Philippines are working abroad or have a

family member(s) that are working abroad.

So while the economic status of the Philippines looks bad on the

inside economy, many people inside the Philippines may not be hurting

as bad as it looks on paper. Most money flows from other countries

into the Philippines to support the people. The trend of people

having to leave the Philippines for sake of making money has birthed

all kinds of options to the younger generation inside the country. The

internet has also opened a new door for some Pilipino people to make

money from other countries, and to secure new relationships that may

help them immigrate to the United States and other developed

countries. It has also birthed a new culture of people who use the

internet to create scams, and steal from innocent people who are

seeking real relationships or help them.

This brings me to one particular scammer, that uncommon Pilipina who

sits in the Philippines and wants to leave that country and is willing

to lower herself to do it any way possible. She lives on the internet

like its a job. She may seek only status in a new country and is

willing to use someone to achieve it. She flirts and talks with many

men online at one time, she is fishing for the big catch, and waits

until the right fish catches the hook. She is not really interested

in marriage at all. She just wants to get out of that country any way

she can. Meanwhile while she is fishing, she can use the other

smaller fish to help her have some income there in the Philippines.

Many changes in Philippine culture like this one, has not been caught

on by many American men. Many American men who don’t know much about

the Philippines are easily fooled by the scams in the country. She

may tell you a family member is sick and needs medical help. You have

no way of knowing for sure. Also many of the images that are put

forth of the Pilipina today is falsely tied to the old Pilipina who

was more traditional and who had strong family values. What baffles

me is how so many American men refuse to see that the Philippines has

changed from its more traditional ways. This change took place a long

long time ago.

Anyway once the Pilipina achieves finding that man to petition her and

she makes it to the United States via K-1 visa, is when things start

to get tricky. So I am going to inform some of these men as to what I

have seen with my own eyes and what i have heard, and what i know to

be true. Some of it may not make you happy.

The Pilipina who has made it to the United States via K-1 visa and is

now married but she only did it for the sake of a green card or

citizenship status and do not want to be married or stay married, what

are her options? Now I am not saying what she is doing is right, we

all know it's not right. In fact this is fraud. We should be realistic

that this is fraud and is rarely caught, and it is not easy to catch.

But what is her next move after she secures the marriage in the U.S.?

This is where it becomes tricky, but very dangerous.

Most of us have seen this openly discussed right here on the

Internet among Pilipinas giving advice to each other. As one

Pilipina’s post states she commonly says:

“I don’t love my husband. I am worried that I may get deported. How

can I stay in the United States?”

The replies to this post have a major contrast between the American

men, who rarely even reply to these posts and the Pilipina women who

are already in the United States who will give sometimes unethical

advice about how to achieve such goal.

The American men often recommend that she go back to her country and

come back the right way if she has not achieved status yet. But the

Pilipina women will give some very interesting advice that clearly

shows the plan about how a woman can come to the United States using a

K-1 visa for the sake of just getting a green card or citizenship Status.

I have read several posts as to what is often called the 3-D plan as

to how to stay in the United States and leave your marriage. I

realized this was the door that attracts some Pilipinas sitting in the

Philippines who are looking to leave the Philippines and use the

internet to look for a victim, to help them achieve it.

What does the 3-D plan consists of?

The 3-D plan is for the one who wants to come to the U.S. but wants to

not be married, but chooses to use marriage for the sake of getting

here. It can also be used for a Pilipina who honestly came to the

United States to marry but the marriage did not work out, but wants to

stay in the United States. One would question why someone would come

to a foreign country for love, and the love does not work out, why

they would want to stay and not go back to their own country.

How can you really tell the difference? You really don't know which

is the scammer and which is sincere. The 3-D plan consists of

Divorce, Domestic Violence, and Delay. So what does she do when she

gets to the United States and is now ready to move away from her

husband? She has 3 options, at her disposal, and some of them can

prove to be lethal to the victim petitioner:

Divorce

Divorce is the more likely option for most of them. But in order to

get that divorce, they need time in the marriage, and they need to

convince their husbands to divorce them too. While they can file for

divorce, they must have some cause for it. This may cause a serious

volatile situation in the home and marriage and can be dangerous in a

marriage. She could be causing dilemmas and conflict in the home and

conflict between the two of them, soon after she arrives. She could

ignore the spouse, or refuse any intimacy between the two of them. I

have seen this act happen in real life. But the result did not turn

out so well for the Pilipina this time.

Domestic Violence

This one is tricky and is not very likely to be an option for most

Pilipina women. This kind of conflict is not one that feels good to

any Pilipina. But this one is extremely dangerous and can cause

someone to get hurt. While we all know something about DV, we all

know that no man (or woman) should ever hit or abuse someone in a

marriage. Most men understand this from childhood. But there are

some men that hit. There are some women that hit too. But when a man

hits, it’s likely to cause more destruction and pain. So in America

we have strong solid laws that mostly protect women from Domestic

Violence. VAWA laws have been set to protect women in order to

decrease violence between men and women. We need these laws because a

man is much stronger than a woman and can cause more damage in a

physical conflict. But Domestic Violence goes a lot farther in that

one can also be mentally, verbally and emotionally abused by a spouse

as well. So things can get tricky here in a marriage and if someone

is accused of DV, their life can be ruined.

But VAWA laws can also open a door for a devious woman, and

occasionally a scheming man to gain leverage in a marriage and to give

cause to a divorce. My honest opinion, this is the worst and the most

dangerous advice that can be given to a Pilipina who is coming here

and wishes to achieve independence and American citizenship. But if

you look around you can see this advice is freely handed out as a way

to “sneak in.” While most cases of DV are true and genuine, there are

a lot of cases where the spouse (especially women) can provoke or lie

about DV. This causes a highly volatile situation in the home and in

the marriage that can cause someone to get hurt. Even children can be

caught in the crossfire or even used as pawns to achieve the false

accusation of abuse. This can hurt the man greatly who gets falsely

accused of this. Just remember that a pilipina who comes here

strictly for the reasons of gaining citizenship or a green card has

this option open to her, if she gets too desperate it is likely she

may try such a scheme in the marriage. While this is the extreme of

her options, please realize that its there at her disposal. Keep in

mind that DV is not just you hitting her; it means just a tiny

incident that you may have not initiated. It can be a physical or

verbal exchange. It can be spanking your stepchild. It can be a

simple gesture that you called her a name. One visit from the police

to your home can ruin your life. BE CAREFUL! I have seen it with my

own eyes.

It is important that all petitioners (male and female) are aware that

this tactic can be used against them and if so, to immediately remove

and separate themselves from the person that may attempt this. Bottom

line is you have to move away. If she is attempting to intentionally

cause conflict, both of you cannot stay in the same home without any

witnesses there. Even if there are witnesses it is not good for you

both to be in close proximity of one another. If they won’t leave,

you must leave. You are vulnerable to be accused of something that can

destroy your life. I speak to the men mostly on this issue.

Delay

The last option open to this Pilipina is to delay and play the role of

married wife until she gains enough status to guarantee her stay in

the United States. This is the more likely option. If she can bear

living with the man, and is willing to play the role long enough, then

she can achieve better status, and make a divorce look like she gave

an honest try to make it work. Delaying can cause issues for the

petitioners as well, because the investment into the marriage has

settled in a lot more after 2 or 3 years. A divorce may put the

petitioner in the position to may have to pay child support for kids

he may have adopted and even alimony. But if the Pilipina just wants

to be free of the marriage, she may not even seek any of this. Guys

be careful!!!

I am not doing this thread to make petitioners scared, but I think its

important that they think a lot more before they decide to bring the

poor, destitute helpless young pilipina to the United States. You

need to know that she is not out in some field working the crops for

14 hours a day, and barely making enough money to feed her or the

family. While the Philippines is a poor country, it is more likely to

be more of a welfare state, rather than a really poor country. There

is a huge difference between some countries in South Africa and the

Philippines. If you want to see a good example of what the

Philippines is, take a tour of our tough crime neighborhoods and

ghettos here in America. That is mostly what you get in PI.

Comments Please!what the

Philippines is, take a tour of our tough crime neighborhoods and

ghettos here in America. That is mostly what you get

And you're 100% sure you're not one of the victims right? you sound like your fiance is the only one who'd never do such a thing but every other young filipina is out there to scam Americans.

Before giving advice to others make sure about your own relationship and don't rely only on what you fiance "HEARD" at Slec.

Oh and for you to say that most of the philipines are like the gettos or crime neighborhoods in america is totally ignorant from your part, I've been in the philipines twice and the places I went are beautiful!!!! nothing like you describing here.

the name ITLOG is EGG in english.

is the OP filipino? by roots?

its a given that he is a USC. but maybe perhaps filipino by ancestry?

the OP has already stated that the first marriage was annuled and that the girl returned to phils. if he had not so stated it would look like immig fraud, since we assume that OP is phils, and maybe even a cousin or something.

now to the more interesting angle: making it seperately with a pair of sisters? yes, it's good. threesome with sisters? very good. i'm just not going to tell you about my wife's sister...

And you're trying to be funny I'm assuming??? FAILED.....

Do you think his wife is having a merry christmas? Do you think that she's in peace sitting and rotting in prison?????

As objectionable as anyone may find my comments, I suppose the venom comes as a direct result of my sympathy for this woman.

Although it is locked, you can still read the original thread. I encourage you all to do so. If you have empathy and support for this man, then we are seeing very different things!!

Of course she's not! Do you not think that my wife, children and I aren't all devastated right now over this, and the possibilities of not getting to spend Christmas together? We want to be together as quickly as possible, and the reality right now is we can't--except on weekends. Does it make you feel better to continuously bring that up and throw it in my face?

If I wasn't concerned about her, then I wouldn't have done everything I could to get her out of the mess she got herself in to after she left.

It would have been easy to just walk away from the whole situation after she abandoned us. Most people kept suggesting it, as is the nature of mankind.

I believe in the sanctity of marriage, however, and I will do everything I can to right any wrongs in my life, and work toward the restoration of our relationship for as long as she's willing to do so as well. There are many couples who do not care enough about their marriages to admit when they're wrong, however, and they just give up and divorce--especially if one of the two leaves the home.

Don't compare us to the quitters out there. We're actually trying to fix our marriage in spite of the problems we've faced in the past. That's what this thread is about altogether.

If you do not like the fact that we're repairing our love, then keep it to yourself. We've both suffered a great deal of stress and hardship, and rather than advise or encourage us, you just continuously provoke and twist my words. Which is borderline when it comes to VJ's ToS.

• Defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others.

• Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

My wife is savy to the threads here, and she'll be reading them once she's out. She is wanting to work out our relationship just as much as I am. Yes, she may be in prison right now, but she's encouraged by the fact that her husband has made changes for her to ensure a positive reunion and accomodation toward a restored marriage.

I've righted most of the wrongs I had in my personal life and personality. Can you say the same for yourself, or are you so far above anyone else, you have no room left for improvement?

<shakes head>

Why do you feel the need to keep on responding to the haters? I'm glad you came to terms with the fact that you made mistakes as well as her and you're now trying to do the best to make your marriage work.. that's all it matter, stop responding to people who can only see through their eyes, people who are quick judging others and making assumptions about others people's lives.

I'm not taking sides here, just trying to be rational, I just don't see the need to get angry or making judgements against the OP or any body else.

Chill out..

Peace

Sorry no xtians @ my house. Quote Quran and maybe I'll listen brotha

Huh?? again and again, do you ever make sense, I mean ever??

Okay, you win. I will leave this highly entertaining thread! I wish you a fantastic life (bearing in mind that "fantasy" is the root word of fantastic)!!!!

You had fun, didn't you?? Gosh I thought you were having a heart attack every time you responded.

Remenber this is only an internet forum, don't take it too seriously.. it may harm your health in the long run.

Peace

pls pls help!

Patience...give people a chance to see your post and respond...

see? i've waited several hours here and still no responce.

i am asking for information not comments!

just post if u can help~ disregard post if u can't help any!~

chill, seriously.. You've got to be patient, if you really want people to help you, change your aproach, otherwise you'll only pissed people off with your attitude.

Abby

Hands and feet inside the car, were about to go for a wild rollercoaster ride. Warning to those with heart conditions enter @ your own risk

huh??

Hi! After something went wrong with trying to get assistance to get a medical expedite and it was denied, my husband and I got into a heated argument today on messenger. I am not here to air out my dirty laundry about the details but we were both upset and I guess one thing lead to another and now I do not think I got room in my heart to forgive him for what he has said to me. Therefore, I am considering cancelling my applications. Does anyone know how to go about cancelling visa applications? It is an I-130 and an I-129 for K3.

Just make sure, you won't regret your decision later on.

We may say hurtful things when we're mad and regret it later. Cool off before taking the next step, think about it.

Abby

Hoy entre al website de USCIS para ver el progreso de nuestro caso que ha demorado tantisimo y me doy con la gratisima sorpresa que Olguita ya ha sido aprobada, tenemos ahora nomas que esperar su tarjeta de residente...este ha sido un camino larguisimo mas que nada por que se demoro mas alla de lo normal...hubo mucha gente que aplico dos meses despues que nosotros y ya tenian su tarjeta verde, eso me puso muy nervioso mas aun cuando la intervencion de mi senador no nos llevo a nada....gracias a Dios esa aprobacion se ha dado ahora...

Felicidades!!!

As many of you know we have struggled with infertility for 4.5 years. It's been a long and hard struggle. We had one miscarriage that was really hard to deal with. After getting pregnant that first time on our own we struggled to get pregnant again. We did fertility treatments for about 8 months two years ago. After no luck my emotional well being just couldn't handle anymore so we took time off. When I say we took time off I mean we didn't do treatments but still continued to try for 2 more years on our own. After trying for 2 more years with no luck we just recently started fertility treatments again.

After just 2 months of trying, we are finally expecting twins! It has been a long, hard, trying journey but we are so happy to finally be having babies. I'm currently 8 weeks pregnant with a due date of July 17th. So far everything looks good. We have had 3 ultrasounds to date and have two very healthy looking babies with two strong heartbeats. Yesterday when I asked the doctor if everything looked good his reply was, "no, everything looks perfect." We just hope after all these years of trying God is finally giving us what we've wanted for so long.

I want to thank all of the people on here who have shown us support during this process. When dealing with something like this it really does help to have those encouraging words. Now I'll need those encouraging words as I deal with morning sickness and just generally being so tired. Thanks everyone!

Wow, beautiful, congratulations on your twins.

God bless you and your family.

Abby

Is irish whiskey ok mom??? Its our cultural drink...

be happy its a nice holiday.

rent a movie, ie anger mgt starring adam sandler

You make no sense as usual... try harder next time, so we can understand what you're saying.

Your and your wife's story moved me to tears. My heart goes out to her who is my countrywoman , to you who has not given up despite the odds and to your children who are once again broken hearted because of her absence.

A lot of the responses make sense, especially the after effects of having a miscarriage. I cannot imagine the pain she is going through especially that she wanted that baby so much. I am 39 years old my husband 46 but I have accepted the fact that I may or may not have a child of our own although I pray everyday that I will get pregnant soon. You can call me desperate but for us, having children of our own is very important.

As what you said, she is a professional and had a job before she left the Philippines. Leaving that job and not able to work here is also very frustrating especially for her who is a known worker. I can relate to her in connection with wanting to work and not just stay at home. I have also worked all my life and leaving my job to relocate was a hard decision. My husband doesn't mind me working but we made an agreement that I won't work until after a year of our marriage so we can truly spend time together 24/7 for a year. I am better situated though because I travel with my husband so I am not left at home by myself. I have been attending school the last 3 weeks for a refresher course so travelling with him was no longer an option but I have school to think about and in a way I am not bored at home. Not being able to be with him 24/7 was a complete change but we are adjusting well with the new situation and I am looking forward to work by the start of next year.

I believe all her " issues" just came down bearing on her at one time so she took off. No AOS/EAD for her to find work, issues with your mother , taking care of the children and most especially her being alone in the house because you were busy at work. Believe me, a lot of my friends who just stay home waiting for their husbands to arrive from work don't have much things to do after cleaning the house. Most household chores are finished even before lunch and after that, there is nothing to do. TV and browsing the internet can also be boring after sometime. If she is working, she will feel more important and not useless. I can only imagine how she felt. . . with two masters degree and working, suddenly she is turned into a plain housewife and her only way out to the working world again is filing that AOS but you WONT. She is not working, all alone by herself in the house, her "job" is to take care of you, the kids and the house. . .it may be a life for some women but to your wife its not and this is driving her crazy. . plus she lost her baby.

Dont give up on her because she is not a fraud. Help her bring back her identity. When she returns, file that AOS, find a way to finance it and maybe, just maybe she will feel better knowing that she will be able to do things she is used to and that is working and not just be at home taking care of everybody. You married a professional woman who is used to working and not stay home. This must be very difficult for her.

I pray she will return to you very soon. Yes, you will have to make some changes and priorities. You love her very much I can tell but you have to look deeper and also fulfill her other needs.

Goodluck

Wonderful post!!!!

welcome to the jungle..

i mean VJ!

hoping for your smooth journey..

Did you read his post????

I had finally finished the K1 Packet to submit for my fiancee. She was living in El Salvador, most of her family here in Los Angeles. We planned our lives together: marriage, a family (three little girls and a couple puppies we wanted), a house, everything together. Before I sent the packet, she had a really bad migraine. The migraine became worse, and the infection took over her whole nervous system. I flew down immediately, and the day I flew down, they admitted her to the hospital. For 18 days, I stayed day and night with her. Telling her much I love her, how much I need her, and of all the beautiful things we were going to experience together in life. Then, two days... her heart stopped. And now my babygirl will always be with me. Te amo Wendy, por siempre!

I'm so so sorry, I wish I could express with words how sad this post made me.

May God grant you the serenity and peace during this difficult times.

God bless you.

Abby

No me lo puedo creer que había un arpía de la locura por estos lares y no acudieron a llamar a HAL 9000 para enviarle a las regiones plomeríficas del mundo VJístico. La próxima vez me alertannnnn eyyyy...

Uy Abby, yo también pensé ¿"glamuroso"?

Diana

Diana sera que la gente "populista" hablamos asi?

Abby

No se preocupe Lobamoon, no estoy interesada por ahora en irme desbocada a USA,tengo una vida buena y me estoy especializando, y mi visa la tengo hace mucho tiempo y la renuevo cada vez que deseo, y no necesito de un hombre para ello. O que mi suegro me sirva de patrocinador o algo asi. Le queda tan mal expresarse asi de los medicos, se le nota la ignorancia y el resentimiento. Y lo de india que bien que lo admita, pero no por nuestros antepasados, lo digo en otro contexto. Que bueno que se diga asi misma que es hermosa pues nadie mas creo que se lo diga. Y si le pregunto a un medico general asi sea de una universidad de garage como las que ud conoce que si prefiere ser eso o un repartetintos como ud, adivine cual es la respuesta?

Por favor diga todo lo ke siente si eso le hace sentir mejor asi de paso se ahorra unos centavitos en psiquiatra, la felicito por ese gran ser humano que demuestra ser. Renuncie y abra su propia oficina ya que tiene tanta solvencia economica, ojala tuviera tambien solvencia moral. Haber si el resentimiento interno por lo de las EPS lo canaliza ayudando la gente y no insultando y perdiendo su tiempo insultando desconocidos Pero la solucion no esta insultandome a mi o la gante de este foro, el problema esta en su interior y asi suene a cliche ud no tiene ni la menor idea de como es la gente de este foro, es mas ud no tiene ni idea de la clase de "persona" que ud es. Siga vomitando veneno si eso le hace sentir mejor.

Dios la bendiga.

magnana sera otro dia... me voy a cine con mi esposo ciao

Mi propia oficina suena bien pero en estos momentos me estoy especializando gracias.

Especializando en...."Relaciones Humanas"?? debe ir raspada no sumerce? , de corazon y como miembro de este foro le solicito cordialmente que se abstenga de seguir participando en el mismo pues nos ofende con su pobre lenguaje y bajo comportamiento. Asi mismo, le recomiendo busque urgentemente ayuda profesional, porque creo que realmente la necesita...

Atte.

Yazz

En cambio su lenguaje es muy glamuroso cuando dice “panas” y “chamos”. (Se parece mucho a su presidente Chavez), o cuando lobamoon dice:”se perrateo”, si claro tiene toda la razón no me puedo comparar en esto. Pero al menos ud hace algo por superarse.

Me importa muy poco sus opiniones pues y es muy normal que cada quien defienda su gremio y por ende entiendo el respaldo que tienen con LOBAmoon. Cada vez que escriben algo por minimo que sea deja rastro de resentimiento. Gracias a Dios que no me toco ir a las Vegas hacer TODO tipo de cosas y terminar al final manteniendo un vago, o casarme con lo que sea para salir del barrio marginal donde habia loquitos, eso si digno de lastima. Preocupese por estudiar ingles y mejorar esa apariencia tan vulgar, para que asi dejen de mofarse en la oficina donde ud gentilente reparte los tintos.

Y si es mil veces mejor que lo comparen a uno con un loco de un parque que con las mujeres que se paran en las calles esperando el cliente perfecto.

Adios tengo pero tengo una vida real lejos de gente populista.

Dra.... ( perdon " LOCA AMPARO" como se llamaba la loquita de mi barrio)

Para empezar no se dice "glamuroso" se dice glamoroso en caso que desee amplificar su vocabulario, si dice que no tiene tiempo para gente populista( un termino que por cierto me mata de la risa) porque no se larga de una vez por todas y deja su falacia e ignorancia fuera de este foro.

Deje de ofender, porque la que se hunde cada vez mas es ud, su diarrea bucal enferma y la verdad que yo creia que su enfermedad no era tan compleja y podia solucionarse con un par de visitas al sicologo pero veo que ud esta ya esta desahuciada y la unidad psiquiatrica seria su proximo paso a tomar no venir a los EU porque aqui si se va a dar en la Jeta por ponerselo bonito.

Busque ayuda que la necesita y deje de fregar gente decente que no le ha hecho nada.

Good bye

Hola espero esten bien, de antemano les pido disculpas por el contenido tan penoso de este post, pero creo que es saludable, hoy recibi este mensaje de esta segnora que estuvo ofendiendo en el foro:

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Enviado: domingo, 16 de noviembre de 2008 06:22:01 a.m.

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marymoon, dra monika has sent you this email from http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php. Definitivamente me da mucha lastima su vida en USA y que tenga tan malos ratos en la oficina, y que unas simples enfermeras le esten amargando su vida, parece que usted pertenece a ese gremio ahora entiendo por que es tan pero tan resentida con los medicos y personas que estan por encima suyo. Con ese sueldo tan miserable que se ganan en Colombiaa ya veo por que ud opto por "emanorarse" digo por venderse en tres meses de visa fiance ha ha ha!!!. Y su amiga la del cr1 no se queda atras, que es eso alguna especie de trata de blancas? alguna mafia? proxenetismo?. Claro esta que con esa apariencia de indigena que ud tiene como pretende que no le agan la vida imposible, no la respeten y la miren como la que va detras de la green card?, que verguenza ajena ellos van a creer que todas somo asi. Le deseo mucha suerte y que obtenga su green card pronto! Muchas saludesDra MonicaResidente de cirugia. Gracias a Dios todavia hay mujeres que nos ganamos la vida dignamente. ---------------------------------------------------Please note that VisaJourney.com has no control over thecontents of this message.--------------------------------------------------- Regards, The VisaJourney.com team.http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php

Si que jartera pobre segnora no tiene nada mejor que estar ofendiendo!

Por otro lado quisiera agregar que enviar esta clase de correos es un delito federal que puede conducir a dos agnos de carcel, la verdad si esta situacion se sigue presentando me vere obligada a presentar la denuncia, y no importa si esta el presunto criminal realizo estas actividades fuera de los EEUU. Ademas poco conveniente si este presunto criminal se encuentra aplicando por visa. Es muy facil establecer la procedencia y la identidad de un mensaje en internet. Realizar este tipo de actividades usando la red deja rastros asombrosos que permiten dar con los responsables. La verdad no entro en detalles porque es larga la lista de herramientas para realizar esto.

La verdad siento infinito pesar por este tipo de personas, hay que ser demasiado infeliz y miserable para ponerse con esto. Finalmente he conocido varias doctoras colombianas que ejercen la profesion aqui y son dignas de respeto y de admiracion y no sufren del sindrome del "south american loser"

Y muchas gracias por el cumplido, pues yo soy una INDIA hermosa, pues el vocablo "indio" en contexto ofensivo solo es usado, por personas que consideran tener una ascendencia seudo-europea, pero por mas que renieguen no pueden negar tener un linaje mestizo (europeo, negro, indigena), en consecuencia cuando usan este vocablo para ofender, este tipo de personas estan ofendiendo su propia sangre y su propia existencia. Definitivamente un comportamiento que se corresponde con personalidades muy precarias o porque no decirlo basicas.

Feliz dia compagneros de viaje y mil disculpas por este PARENTESIS tan maluko

Lobamoon or Marymoon,

Es digno de lastima tener que casarse por cubrir falencias económicas o afectivas. Por favor nadie se enamora en 3 meses. Al menos yo tuve un papel importante en USA, fui por méritos propios,estuve en una buena universidad,etc no sigo pues no quiero ver la reaccion de la gente resentida. Mas bien el sindrome de south american loser se le atribuyo a mujeres como ud que no se preocupan ni por aprender el idioma ni salir adelante, rompiendo leyes y enganando al sistema, metidas en un foro todo un día buscando amigos imaginarios y al igual que Diana con delirio de abogadas de inmigracion, eso si es digno de mucha consideracion. Su compañera de trabajo tiene toda al razon en llamarle la atención, deje al menos un minuto el chat y preocupese por superarse, al menos un poco. Presente un Toefl, inscribase a una universidad, no se quiza estoy pidiendo mucho. Tanto tiempo en USA y todavía como todera - repartetintos de una oficina, que pesar hombre.

Normalmente no me meto en discusiones, mucho menos en las de los foros regionales, pero por favor que alguien reporte a esta loca que de verdad esta rayando en la locura, no entiendo como puede andar asumiendo cosas sin tener una veracidad total de lo que dice, estoy segura que ni idea tiene que clase de personas son aquellas a las que esta ofendiendo( aunque a decir verdad no tienen porque ofenderse si los ataques vienen de gente como esta).

Señora yo le quisiera decir "con todo respeto" pero no puedo decirle eso a alquien que no se lo merece. Asi que en pocas palabras larguese con su delirio de grandeza a otro lado y deje de andar añorando grandezas pasadas que ya no volveran y deje tranquila a la gente que si tienene vidas productivas y satisfactorias( tome nota talvez aprenda algo de ellas)

Abby

sympathy for those of you USC women that have been taken by MENA men. they come from a different culture, and do not have respect for women, in general, much less for foriegn women.

i understand the whole hybrid vigour attraction thing, but think you would fare better hunting a little closer to home. much easier for us guys, unless we get a nasty russian or asian. after 10 years divorced i finally married a chinese, but only because i had been able to live with her for 2 years, first.

So you got yourself a NASTY chinese wife? your comments are totally out logic as usual.... and don't come here telling people to go hunt closer home that's extremely ofensive.. get a grip.. get a life

Abby

Abbysiñis, ¿cómo va todo? Todo bien por acá, gracias a Dios. ¿Y cómo está llevando su esposo el frío que están pasando por allá?

Lencita... fuerza, mucha fuerza y sobre todo mucho positivismo.

Tavo, que vaina con esa gente tan rara hombre. En este muncho hay de todo. Lo chistoso es que en Las Vegas también tienen un "spaguetti bowl". Aquí en Denver tenemos es un "mouse trap".

Chicos, nada interesante para el día de hoy. Mi sobrinita se va a disfrazar de Sirenita y ya tiene la peluca roja y su verstido verde, se ve DIVINA!!! Y pues ya, ya tengo mis bolsitas de dulces para repartir esta noche y listo el posho.

Ravo

Diana

Ay Diana ya se me enfermo 2 veces porque al principio dizque no sentia frio y yo siempre con la cantaleta diciendole q se abrigara y pues ya ves creo q ya entendio porque ahora no se quita ni los guantes y espero q siga asi porque el frio apenas comienza y lo duro esta todavia por llegar

Abby

Gracias a todos. Que mas quisiera yo, pero la prognosis o como se llame no es buena. Nos esperan muchos meses de llevarla dia a dia.

Feliz viernes a todos mis amigos de FDL:

Solo pasaba a saludarlos a todos y desearles un hermoso viernes y un feliz fin de semana.

Pues aca haciendo frio en NY pero gracias a Dios todo nos esta yendo bien.

Len amiga ya sabes que aqui estamos para darte apoyo en estos momentos dificiles, no pierdas la fe y la esperanza, todo va a estar bien.. creelo

No hay carga q no podamos soportar cuando tenemos fe....

Dios me los bendiga a todos

Abby

Que hubo Diana como estas???

I read the former topic and I cant help but share my opinion..Every one is special and have their own unique characteristics, Filipinos or Brazilian or Thailander. However, we need to respect people for their own uniqueness, intelligence, loyalty to their country. If Filipinas thinks they are special, I am pretty sure Brazilian or Canadian or Thai's thinks they are special too.

And I also agree that Filipinos are smart and their unusual loyalty to their culture, country and individuality impresses me.

So far this is the best comment, if they feel proud to be filipinas let them be.. it doesn't bother me a bit, for the simple reason that I'm also proud of who I'm, maybe the people who love bashing others are not happy with themselves? just an observation....

Abby

Hey Hey we El Pasoans are nice people,

Be nice

Now...that being said, who are we picking on?

Apparently, not all folks from El Paso (assuming this individual is from El Paso) share your sense of camaraderie and humor. Just read this one from the beginning and you will understand.

How can you expect people to be humorous about something they consider "sacred"? I'd never understand how someone can come lurk into regional treads just to make fun of people's beliefs??? If you want respect just try a little harder to respect others.

Abby

Abby amiga, I respect people's beliefs. What upsets me is anyone -of any creed- who cheapens the presence of God in ####### as mundane as a visa approval. God is something to be lived, not paraded. No matter how much you pray, if you are missing papers, your visa will be denied: too-ha! that's how this works. God has nothing to do with it. Esa es mi opinion.

Cool!!! amiga you got a valid point and totally respect your opinion...

Abby