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    "TEMP VISITOR" on the NY DL, does it still count as "Proof of Identity"???

    in Passports, etc. - What to do now that you are a US citizen

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    37 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

    Actually, it appears the OP is a naturalized citizen and is trying to apply for their US passport.  Also, DOS stands for Department of State.

     

    To the OP, you will use your naturalization certificate to prove your identity according to the DOS website, so I would not worry about updating your NY DL first.

     

    Good Luck!

     

    Primary ID (submit one)

    • Valid or expired, undamaged U.S. passport book or passport card 
    • In-state, fully valid driver's license or enhanced driver's license with photo
    • Certificate of Naturalization 
    • Certificate of Citizenship 
    • Government employee ID (city, county, state, or federal)
    • U.S. military or military dependent ID
    • Current (valid) foreign passport
    • Matricula Consular (Mexican Consular ID) - commonly used by a parent of a U.S. citizen child applicant
    • U.S. Permanent Resident Card (Green Card) - commonly used by a parent of a U.S. citizen child applicant
    • Trusted Traveler IDs (including valid Global Entry, FAST, SENTRI, and NEXUS cards)
    • Enhanced Tribal Cards and Native American tribal photo IDs
    • Other documents: In-state, fully valid learner's permit with photo, In-state, fully valid non-driver ID with photo, and temporary driver's license with photo. Note: you may be asked to present an additional ID when presenting one of these 3 documents. 

    https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/identification.html

    Thank you 

    57 minutes ago, Misscloud said:

    I use my NYS with temporary visitor note and never had issue. It’s connected to the date of my EAD expired date. As long as I keep renewing My EAD I never had issue to call it proof of identity. 

    Thank you 

    47 minutes ago, Mike E said:

    I don't know what DOS is.

     

    If you have an unexpired I-551 (including an I-551 stamp), then the federal REAL ID act authorizes states to issue you a REAL ID compliant drivers license. 

     

    What matters is what the front of your DL says. If it has star with a black background, it is REAL ID and is valid for ID. See image.

     

    If it has "NOT FOR FEDERAL PURPOSES"    you cannot use it to fly (after October 2021) or enter federal offices or federal property that requires ID.

     

    Regardless, you are not a temporary visitor. You are a permanent resident.  That's a racist policy the NY State motor vehicles department has. I am surprised.

     

    Since you are naturalized, you might want to get a DL without "temporary" on the back because you risk a referral by TSA to CBP at airports.

     

     

    636674149393395875-Real-ID.jpg

    Thank you

    "TEMP VISITOR" on the NY DL, does it still count as "Proof of Identity"???

    in Passports, etc. - What to do now that you are a US citizen

    Posted · Edited by djidis

    i renewed my NYS DL with the i551 stamp, back when my i751 was still pending, as a result, the license says temporary visitor in the back, 

     

    On DOS website, it says temporary drivers license is not valid for using as a Proof of Identity.

    should i update my license before i apply for passport?

     

    does anyone has similar experience ?

    Can i use the online passport filler before i become a citizen? anyone has experience ?

    in Passports, etc. - What to do now that you are a US citizen

    Posted · Edited by djidis

    im thinking applying passport on the date of my up coming oath ceremony. but i want to fill out the form first

     

    is there requirement like you have to be a citizen AT THE TIME of using the online tool to filling the form, because i saw information about they will save the information in the system

    question about ONLINE OATH LETTER? Is USCIS still using this fuction?

    in US Citizenship General Discussion

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    3 minutes ago, ThaOne said:

    Don't count Saturday and Sunday in the days you say you have been waiting.

    They attach the actual document online the day they mail it, and I doubt it USCIS is working mailing hard copies on Saturday and Sunday. Wait till Monday or maybe Tuesday, and you should see it online. Usually the oath ceremony itself is 3-4 weeks later. The cases you state where people didn't receive their letters those are "errors", glitches, address issues or just some computer mishaps that maybe affect less than 1%. So I wouldn't be too worried about that. Monday or Tuesday you should know. But check online yourself, don't wait for an email or text notification. Sometimes they don't go out. Personally during my whole process I never got text or email notifications even though I was set up. I found out by signing in and looking myself. 

    thank you so much, i was just paranoid about people waited 4 months to get rescheduled

    question about ONLINE OATH LETTER? Is USCIS still using this fuction?

    in US Citizenship General Discussion

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    49 minutes ago, BBlueB said:

    After I got the notification for the oath ceremony letter, I waited two days for the PDF document.

    My ceremony was Nov, 2020.

    ohh is it two business day? sorry for such detail questions

     

    i just don't wanna miss the date, saw some experience that some people missed the USCIS scheduled ceremony , because the pdf letter and actual mailed letter both didn't arrive before the oath date

    question about ONLINE OATH LETTER? Is USCIS still using this fuction?

    in US Citizenship General Discussion

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    Hi, may 19 filer here, I got scheduled for a oath ceremony  three days ago, since then under the “Document” section on myUSCIS account, I don’t see the letter. And it used to have this one sentence saying something about “below is the notice USCIS have sent you if you don’t see the notice check back in a few days”, but now this sentence is gone.

     

    I was just wondering is USCIS still uploading PDF letters?

    if they still do how fast would it show up?

     

    Greatly appreciated for anyone sharing your situation!

    N-400 and I-751 Combo Pending -- Part 2

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

    Posted

    On 12/28/2020 at 4:02 PM, DannyAdelante said:

    Just wanted to give an update on my two applications.

     

    I submitted my I-751 in October 2018, and my N-400 in September 2019.  Had no activity on my I-751 after my biometrics appointment in November 2018 - almost two years.  Got an interview scheduled for my N-400 in April 2020, and was immediately de-scheduled because of the pandemic.

     

    Fast forward a few months, and I got my N-400 interview re-scheduled for November 3rd in New York City - Election Day.

     

    Everything I had read, and even after speaking to my lawyers, indicated that it would be a combo interview.  But when I was called for my interview, the interviewer said she only did N-400 interviews, and the I-751 was nothing to do with her, she had never heard of anyone doing combo interviews, and that it would be a different office processing that. She could not even tell me if I would need to come in for another interview or not.

    Interview went fine, and at the end she was like "I can't give you a decision because of your pending I-751".  I asked if they could call that office, as it was in the same building, and it was my understanding that combo interviews were fairly common when the I-751 had not been processed.  She said she had never heard of that, and she could only give me a "no decision made yet" piece of paper, and said I could go home.

    I was really dejected.  I had hoped to become a citizen that day, or at least get a date for my oath ceremony (everyone who got approved on November 3rd was given a December 18th date for their Oath Ceremony), but still felt that I was in limbo.

     

    She then must have escalated my I-751 case because it was approved that same afternoon, and I received my approval letter the following day, on the 4th.

     

     

    The I-751 approval letter stated:

    We have approved your I-751 Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence. Our records also indicate that we have approved your Form N-400, Application for Naturalization. Because we also approved your N-400, you will not receive a new Permanent Resident Card (also known as a Green Card). Instead, once you have taken the Oath of Allegiance, you will receive a Certificate of Naturalization, which will be proof of your U.S. citizenship. If you have questions regarding this process, please contact the USCIS Contact Center at 800-375-5283.

     

     

    So, that was great. But since then I have heard nothing.

    The estimated case completion time stated January 2021 - 2/3 months after the interview, but last week, that estimated case completion time was pushed back a further two months to March 2021.

    When I check my USCIS status both online and via their automated phone system, it says that my "Interview Has Been Scheduled".  There is nothing about it being completed (which it was) or approved (which the letter says is the case).

    I called USCIS and spoke to an agent. They said that did seem strange, and that they could not see anything on their end, but that they could not investigate my case until at least 60 days had passed from my interview (which took place 55 days ago).

     

    So, overall, I guess I should be happy that my citizenship seems to have been approved? But it looks like it is stuck in their system because of an error, and keeps getting needlessly delayed. And I do not have either a new Green Card with conditions removed or my certificate of naturalization.

    Hey, I hope everything goes well with ur case, my situation is the same, did you receive oath letter yet?

    Disappointing Oath Ceremony

    in US Citizenship Case Filing and Progress Reports

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    On 10/19/2017 at 3:58 PM, Going through said:

    So ok...this was my experience at my Oath Ceremony today in Brooklyn.

     

    Went through security relatively quickly and easily considering I showed up a good 40 minutes early.   Now, I had gone ahead and called Camdan Plaza East where the ceremony was going to be held, so I already knew that no cameras or cell phones were permitted in the courthouse (whether participants or guests), and I already was aware that there would be a possibility that guests were not able to view the actual ceremony.

     

    All Queens, NY filers must have their oath ceremony at the court house regardless of whether or not a name-change is requested.  Just how it's done for Queens filers.   The building itself is beautiful inside, with wide spiral staircases, and lots of marble and artwork on the walls.   Headed up to the 2nd floor, where my husband and child were directed to the 3rd floor cafeteria.  I asked if they would be able to view the ceremony at all, and was told they would be called down later on.

     

    Fast forward to 8:30AM when we got started with everything.  Applicants were taking up only 3 rows of the court benches, so it wasn't a long process to get everyone situated with how to fill out the back of the Oath Letter.   A few moments later, a representative from the voter registration office gave a small speech on how to vote and pressed us to fill out the application form and immediately hand it back over to her, and then she left the room never to be seen again.   After that, no one spoke to us or gave out any information on how the day would go, or welcomed us, nothing like that and participants were pretty much left on our own to just sit there and wait for....whatever was going to happen next. 

     

    We were called up again to hand over the green card and receive an envelope.  Inside the envelope was a hard folder to place our certificate in, a copy of the oath, the passport application, and information on voting/serving on a jury.  Wish I'd gotten a flag, but oh well.  No welcoming letter from the President, but truth be told I didn't really expect one.

     

    After about an hour, another lady started talking to us about passport applications and telling us that we can apply for the passport anytime after the ceremony (but not with them in any way, must be done through the post office or passport agency).  One person asked a rather simple question about the form, and when the staff didn't understand him due to a language barrier, I re-stated the question more coherently (I was sitting infront of him). The man was then replied to in a long, drawn-out condescending way that he "shouldn't be asking them anything about passports---ask us about immigration only!  When you go to the post office, you ask them questions about the post office, right???  I can't tell you anything about passports or the post office because I don't know anything about that."  Kind of went on and on increasingly condescendingly....okaaaayyyy....well they DID present the passport application forms to us and asked if people had any questions, but whatever.  She then stated we should apply for our SS status to be changed no less than 10 days after the oath ceremony, and asked if we had any questions about that process.  No one said a peep, probably because they were afraid of being lectured for asking a question.

     

    After another wait, the 3rd lady came into the room and started setting herself up at a desk.  I was sitting in the front and could hear the staff conversations taking place since the room was nearly silent, and they were only a few feet away seated at the table.  At that point, one of them said to her "did you bring the country list?"  to which she replied "nah I didn't bother with it".  From reading other oath ceremony threads, and watching videos, I knew then that there would be no announcement of the countries recognized at the ceremony, which was a downer to me because I was looking forward to that part....almost like feeling like our immigration success was a global community effort we all shared in, but wasn't going to happen at my ceremony today.   It was also sad that they just seemed to decide on-the-spot to not be bothered with it and brush it off for whatever personal reason the woman had (maybe laziness?).

     

    Soon enough, boredom sets in, since we are not being engaged in any way, and a few of us (myself included) start chatting among ourselves, not loudly.  We have a few giggles discussing our immigration journeys, what country we are from, etc. and generally how we're happy to become citizens.  About 10 minutes into our conversation, one of the workers comes over to us and ----- to my disbelief ---- tells us "You are getting too excited about this now, alright?  You all calm down and be quiet."  We, as a small group, were stunned that we were actually told to stop socializing with each other and just continue to sit there staring ahead in silence.  Personally, I was flabbergasted that she implied we shouldn't even be HAPPY about reaching this day in our lives.

     

    One of the workers stood up and threatened everyone that if they didn't hand in all previous USCIS-issued documents (EADs and expired GC's) to them now or failed to mail them in at a later date "We have everything on file so we already know.  We can find out...I'm just letting you know we will find out"  I felt this was completely unnecessary of them to say this out-of-the-blue, and in a passive-aggressive manner.

     

    Afterwards, we were called up by line to view our naturalization certificates.  As we approached the desk in single file, the lady barked out "what's your number?!" without explaining exactly what number she was referring to (I learned quickly she meant the last 3 digits of the alien number) then whipped out the certificate and gave each person literally a two-second glance at it before barking at us "sign your name!"  To the woman's eye-rolling annoyance, I refused to give it barely a 2-second glance, knowing this would be the only time I could get the certificate corrected for free, and looked over everything not just my name. Upon sitting down, I remarked purposefully loudly to the woman next to me (who whispered to me how rude she was) "You know, I've never been referred to as just a number before, I thought they only did that in jail."  The other worker met my eyes and slightly smiled sympathetically.  I think even SHE was wondering why her co-worker was so abrupt with everyone, despite her *own* prior unpleasantness towards participants.  

     

    One poor girl who had requested a name change pointed out to the worker that the certificate didn't reflect her request.  The worker asked her what her name was supposed to be, and then flippantly remarked "Well they didn't do it.  Sign your name!"  The young lady, for obvious reasons, hesitated in signing it and the worker looked up at her and actually said "What's the problem?"  When the lady repeated that her name is not as requested on the certificate, she was again told to sign it as written.  She did end up signing it, and then respectfully asked "What do I do now, though, about the wrong name?"  The lady abruptly said "You have to go to civil court." and LITERALLY TURNED HER BACK TO HER in her swivel chair!!!  Completely ignored her until she walked away, head down, and confused.   "Next---what's your number?!"

     

    Our families did eventually come down and were herded together into a small section partially away from us all. 

     

    The judge arrived, we all rose out of respect and then were told to be seated again.  The judge immediately told us that she had just found out this morning that she would be presiding (from eavesdropping on the staff, I could hear them discussing which judge to call to administer the oath just before).  She gave a brief 5-minute off-the-cuff speech about the importance of voting, and serving on a jury.  There was no discussion about the importance of the day, no talk about immigrants contributing to the country, no mention about personal experience with the process.  Just a statement about voting, and jury duty---and a mention of "Happy Diwali" to those celebrating it.  She also introduced her new office clerk to us, a disinterested looking young man sitting next to her.  Overall, she had a pleasant personality, just wished something more poignant was said.  Anything.  Anything at all.   Something to make the day seem special.  Near the end of her comments, she spoke about how we should go forth and be respectable members of society and pay our taxes.  I noticed a few side-eyes being given and maybe we all thought the same thing....that we already *have* been paying taxes and *have* been good members of society.

     

    We took the oath of allegiance, and then recited the pledge of allegiance.  We all clapped for ourselves and each other.  The judge handed us our certificate and shook our hands with a perfunctory "congratulations" and then we were immediately directed to leave the courthouse.  Her new clerk, adding to his aura of disinterest, stood next to her with his hands in his pockets, not speaking unless directly spoken to.  

     

    All in all, it was a disappointing day.  There was no memorable moment, no feeling of a journey acknowledged, no special gathering, no poignant moment where I felt included as a citizen, no....niceness....about the entire experience.  I remarked to my husband later that it felt like I had just left another USCIS appointment where I just handed over some paperwork.  It was abrupt, the staff seemed mostly annoyed with our presence, rude for the most part, and just an anti-climatic moment all-around since my immigration process began.

     

    Am I happy that my journey is over and I'm a citizen as the main thing?  Yes, I suppose so.  Just wish more thought was put into making it an actual special day for people who have struggled, and sweated, and cried, and stressed and sacrificed to make it as far as they did.  Previously reading other people's oath ceremonies in different cities/states had me thinking today wouldn't be "just like any other day".  :(:( 

     

    All in all, the highlight of my ceremony was giving @vkhutchings a hug as we congratulated each other outside of the courtroom.  

     

    So that's it.  Oh yeah, that sums up nicely how I felt as soon as I left the courthouse.... "That's it?"

    May I just ask you how do you find out all the naturalizations in queens office will be held at a court? I’m thinking change my name but I’m don’t wanna slow down the process, if queens office only does judicial ceremonies, there is no reason for me not to, so just wanna know. I’m in queens too

    I-751 February 2018 Filers

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by djidis

    3 hours ago, peetee91 said:

    Hello guys just an update. 

     

    I filed for i-751 back in February 10th 2018, l to Vermont and a year later my Case was transferred to Texas. Few days before my case was transferred to Texas I applied for N-400. 

    Yesterday I got a notification stating that my case was transferred again to another office, letter was sent. When I call the customer service line it doesn’t specify which office. I hope is the local office, and my combo interview can be scheduled. This wait is driving me crazy. At the end of next month I have a trip planned for a week to Asia and fingers crossed no interviews will be scheduled for that time. 

    Hey we are in the exact same situation! I applied n400 few days before they transfer my case to Texas, then two days ago they messaged me saying it was transferred again, I called they told me they don’t exactly know where my case went, but they did submitted a inquiry for me 

    Anyone experiencing multiple transfer? Similar situation?

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

    Posted

    1 minute ago, AstroCanada said:

    So no personal experience here, but when you start to see crazy behaviour like this, it never hurts to get your congressman involved.  At least they have a dedicated point of contact to get some slightly clearer status updates.  From reading this forum, it appears quite rare for transfers to go from the local office back to a service center.  

     

    Also did you file N-400?  That often triggers a file to get transferred to a local office.  

    Yea I did file n400 back on January 2019

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