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On 2/6/2019 at 6:50 PM, shallot343 said:

[ I have posted here before under @shallott343 but can't seem to get back into my account, hence the new username]

 

Hey guys! you have been so helpful before, I am hoping you don't mind giving me some more advice even though I know this topic has been discussed to death!

 

 

I will be submitting my I-130 packet in about a month and I want to frontload as much as I can at this stage. I am the petitioner and my partner, the beneficiary, is a UK citizen. We will be submitting the packet very shortly after marriage (beneficiary will be coming into the US under VWP, we will marry, and then they will return to the UK for duration of CR-1 process). We are both over 18, very close in age, no criminal records, and never married before ,so I don't think there will be too many red flags!

 

Because we are submitting right after marriage I am a bit worried about the strength of our evidence of bona fide marriage (to note, we have been together well over 5 years and I was previously living in the UK for the majority of that time, though we never signed a lease together for a variety of reasons) I know that affidavits from family and friends are considered the weakest form of evidence but I was wondering if any of you thought they would be worth including? 

 

currently in our packet we have (or will have)

• marriage certificate (there is no ring and no "formal" wedding, we are just doing a city hall marriage) 
• required forms (I-130, I-130A, G-1145/check for $535/passport sized photos of myself and the beneficiary)
• my proof of US Citizenship (birth certificate and Passport scans)
• evidence of joint bank account (though this is a UK account and so I only use it when I am visiting)
• bank statements/official letters to each of us at the same UK address (we don't have a formal, signed lease but we have lived together on and off)
• boarding passes/trip confirmations/passport stamps from trips we took together and to see one another going back the entire length of the relationship (some of these are just flight confirmations as the boarding passes have long been lost)
• photographs of the two of us and the two of us with friends/family (these do not really have identifying local information, like local landmarks, so I don't know if they will be convincing)
• cards/notes/letters addressed to us as a couple from family and friends, and to each of us individually from the other's family and friends
• some selected chat logs/emails from various messaging apps showing us communicating daily going back the length of the relationship

 

Given the lack of joint assets and finances and the timeline for submission, I was wondering if anyone thought it would be worth it to include some affidavits from family and friends about our relationship? I know this is considered very weak evidence, but I'm not sure if it might be necessary given what we are currently working with?  

 

Could it hurt our application more than help?

 

Is there anything else I should include that I haven't mentioned here?

 

Thank you so much!

 

 

I will keep my timeline updated and make sure not to get locked out of this account too!

 

 

affidavits are not weak if you could include them with all of the great evidence u have then do it

hey everyone can anybody please tell me the order of the documents and the evidence for the I130 we are confused on how to organize that and what should we pay attention to before sending it 

9 hours ago, pushbrk said:

That's always a good idea.  You need to understand that the passport stamps or boarding passes are actual primary evidence of HOW MUCH TIME you have spent together.  If that evidence is missing or even if it is just a short time, it is far better to wait and have more time together.

 

You both being muslim and the foreigner a woman, IS stronger than the reverse, particularly the reverse with an older woman.  Still, a weak case is NOT what you want to file with.

i do agree but it really hard to be apart from each other . we are married for 3 months now and we close in age and have cultural and religious similarities plus family aware of this and we have many photos about that plus by the time i have the interview we will have more of time spent together and more photos and we are trying to get those stamps 

28 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Given the importance of this particular endeavor, I would suggest he make whatever arrangements he needs to make to get copies of those pages into your package before he files it.  Evidence of time spent together is most important.  Unless he has the boarding passes for the same trip or trips, he would be wise to make the necessary arrangements.

yes i agree but don't you think the photos and the honeymoon and the affidavit letters and the potos confirm that ?

51 minutes ago, EandH0904 said:

Where did his passport go?? That's kind of an important document to misplace....

he is currently working in another state and heft his passport at home

1 hour ago, adil-rafa said:

you need proof he traveled to Morocco / i know you married there but still need proof such as itinerary and copy of boarding pass

 

photos should include your morocco family with him

 

1  case is weak as you knew him less than a year and married

2  case is weak as you married on 1st meeting

3  case is weak if you only have one visit

4  and this is Morocco/  he does need to add you to 2018 tax returns (IRS site will tell him how)

5  you need to send him a POA  (power of attorney ) for banking

when he adds you to his tax returns .  by getting the ITIN,  he can then add you to a bank account

since this is now being done and the embassy knows it can be done,  they expect it

commingling assests is the only way to get a visa approved especially such a weak one

 

Is he Muslim?

are you muslim?

yes we are both muslim and you are really scaring me i know my case is weak but this is all we can prove for now and we do have many photos together and with family as his parents came hre especifivally for the marriage and we also went on a honeymoon . we are planing to travel overseas together in few  months so we will send those pics in the nvc stage 

8 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

Don’t over think it. You are already married. The proof for you is easier than a K-1. Just relax and you will be fine. If we knew what country you are from it may help us get you better answers. There are some minor differences between embassies. 

im from morocco and my husband is an american and yes i should just relax and send wht i have in hand i wish u best of luck too

2 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

I guess you should just do the best you can. Try to look at it through a stranger’s eyes. If you feel good about the proof then that is the all that is needed. I would try to get copies of his passport stamps in case you get an RFE. Just do the very best you can and all will be fine. Good luck to you. 

yes iam doing my best and very stressed about it at the same time im trying to put everything i can to prove that our relationship is true as it  is . thank u 

26 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

That is all weak proof.  The passport stamps are important.  Booking a venue dent prove much either. Try to get copies of the passport stamps if you can.  Those are excellent proof that he was in country.  Those with the pictures makes the best proof.

 

yes i undrstand but it is very hard to get those copies right now and im really sad about that but we gonna have to do without it for the moment and send them aliong with other travel tpgether in few months and send it in the nvc stage in case we got approved but dont you think that the marriage cetificate with his signature and everuthing and the pics with dates plus the affidavits stating the same thing prove that he was here ?

1 minute ago, John & Rose said:

The form takes 10 minutes to fill out.  He can't spend 10 minutes for love?  You also don't need proof of ongoing relationship.  That comes at the interview.

 

Affidavits arena worth the paper they are written on.  You should have pictures together and copies of passport stamps from the same visit.  That is pretty good proof.  Receipts and boarding passes are only good if they are with the pictures.  Without pictures all you can prove is he was thereunto that you were together.

hey ; 

yes he is filing everything i said im just helping organizing the evidence but he is doing most part of it and filing everything . and we do have a lot of pics that we are submitting the only problem is that my husband do not have his passport in hand at the moment to copy stamp of arrival and departure but we do have lot of pics and proof of booking our honeyoon destination

Just now, JFH said:

So if you’re the beneficiary, why are you completing the I-130? 

my husband's job do not allow him to have a lot of free time to do all this so he completed the forms and im just orga,izing the evidnce and doing rsearches but he is the one who is going to put everything together and send it 

1 minute ago, JFH said:

Did you marry the first time you met? Which country is the beneficiary from? Don’t worry about bank accounts - most couples don’t have these because they have never lived together. But surely he is listed as the beneficiary on your life insurance, etc? Do you have wills? You should. 

 

Boarding passes and passport stamps are good. So are hotel/apartment receipts. 

 

Phone records are less good but it doesn’t hurt to include them. 

 

If the photos are all from the same visit they don’t help much. If you have a series of photos over time from diffeeent visits, that is better. 

yes we got married the first visit after 9 months of communication him and his family communicated with mine and talked about the marriage . he is a us citizen and im a moroccan . and yes all of the photos are from one visit for a month but we are going to travel overseas in few months and we are willing to incluse those pics in the nvc stage . and what do you mean by having wills 

4 minutes ago, JFH said:

I’m an organizer on this forum and I moved your question to the correct forum. Questions about how to complete the paperwork, what to send, how to do this or that should be posted in “process and procedures”. “Progress reports” is for discussions on how long the process takes. 

oh ok thank you im still new to ths website so i don't really understand how it works

me and my husband do not have shared bank account or property as we knew each other for 9 months before marriage now we ae togther for one year and we have never lived with each other so we only have screnshots of ongoing relationship from january to december with calls and a lot of photos of us and our families in the wedding and honeymoon and evidence of booking appartments for the honeymoon along with few money receipts ; what do you think

5 minutes ago, JFH said:

*~*~*procedural question moved from “progress reports” to “process and procedures”*~*~*

could you please explain what you mean and what does your reply have to do with my question

5 minutes ago, JFH said:

8 and 9 are not required. 

 

Photos of the beneficiary are only required if he/she is in the USA. 

 

How can you have “proof” of an ongoing relationship? You should be sending evidence. There is no way to prove your relationship is genuine unless someone can read your thoughts. 

 

Affidavits are very weak evidence. You need to do better than that. 

i have two letters one from my dad and one from m husband's dad is that bad ! 

and should i replace the word proof with the word evidence 

and last photo of the beneficiary is very important

hey everyone im currently filing the I130 and these are the ducuments im sending can anybody please take a look at it and tell me if im missing something 

The following documents accompany and support this petition:

1.      A check for the amount of $535.00 to cover the filing fee;

2.      Form G-1145, E-Notification of Application/Petition Acceptance

3.      Form I-130 Petition for Alien Relative;

4.      Form I-130A, Supplemental Information for Spouse Beneficiary, for the beneficiary;

5.      Two (2) photos of the petitioner and two (2) photos of the beneficiary;

6.      A copy of the Petitioner’s U.S. birth certificate;

7.      A copy of the petitioner’s passport biographic page;

8.      A copy of the beneficiary’s birth certificate;

9.      A copy of a certified translation of beneficiary’s birth certificate;

10.  A copy of the divorce decrees of the petitioner;

11.  A copy of the marriage certificate of petitioner and beneficiary;

12.  A copy of a certified translation of the marriage certificate of petitioner and beneficiary;

13.  Evidence of bona fide marriage.

a-      A short summary of our relationship

b-      Two third party affidavit of bona fide marriage

c-      Proof of ongoing relationship

hey everyone ,

me and my husband are currently filing for the I130 and i have heard that we should put a copy of his passport stamp for arrival and departure for when he came to visit me and getting married but my husband doesnt have his passport in hand right now and it will be very difficult to get those copies at the moment . please anybody already sent the packet is it necessary and would it be a problem not to incluse it as we have many other evidence to prove a bona fide marriage . thanks

hey everyone im preparing to file the I130 For spouse visa and im little confused on what documents do we really need to send