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1 minute ago, gregcrs2 said:

There have been occasions where a B visa became cancelled without the cancelation stamp in the passport.  And yes, they can cancel your B visa at any time without prejudice.  Even though your K-1 will be denied, it shows immigration intent.  I'm not saying your B visa is still valid or not.  I think the only way you can find out is by trying to take a trip to the USA or perhaps contacting the consulate.

Somehow contacting consulate is sounds risky. Even if they did not, they might cancel after me contacting them. 

3 hours ago, gregcrs2 said:

I was thinking the same thing.  OP, was your passport returned to you from the consulate?

At the end of the interview we get the passport back. Embassy asked for more materials (photos, e-mails etc) along with the passport before making their final decision. In few days we prepared the package and sent it to Embassy. Few weeks later, we asked about result, and finally got an unofficial email stating their decision to send back our case to USCIS. All of our files will be sent back to USCIS but they did not mention about the passport. I usually worked overseas so passport is crucial for me. We waited few weeks and asked can we at least get our passport back. They sent it following day. We picked it up from post office and checked B1-B2. There was no stamps, nothing new also there was nothing in any of the other pages. 

Since B1-B2 is a visa itself, given for 10 years, just because they are going to deny K1, they should not cancel my B1-B2. I did not commit a crime. I legally applied for a new visa and did everything by the books.

I did not travel right after I got my passport either. Instead few months later my fiance, visited me and we had vacation in Turkey.

So, I do not think my B1-B2 is invalid.

10 hours ago, David & Zoila said:

Did the two of you meet up before filing the K-1?  It sounds here like you did not meet in person until last month?

Yes we did before filing.

1 minute ago, TM92 said:

OP should be truthful to CBP about intent to marry. Intent to marry is not illegal. Intent to AOS or overstay is illegal. If OP is truthful and CBP still does not want to grant entry with B-2, then chances are CBP will allow OP to voluntarily withdraw application for admission and immediately leave (thus no misrepresentation bar).

No problem, this is 100% legal.

THANK YOU.

3 minutes ago, Derik-Lina said:

There is a big chance you will be turned away at POE. There are many who were denied Entry to the US with a Visitors Visa B1-B2 if and when the Border Agents know there is Immigration intent. You will be told to go back and apply for the appropriate Visa. There are some who attempted to enter the US with K1 visas, but when POE looked thru luggage and found evidence of marriage (ex: wedding or ceremony photos) the intending Immigrants were turned away also.

You will be asked about the motives behind your trip and you must disclose that you had applied for K1. Actually, that information might or will be available to POE. You may be banned for 5 or 10 years if you lie about your intentions to marry.

Only my 2 cents here and I, personally, would rather wait a year or two than be banned altogether.

Good Luck!

My intension is to visit my fiancé, spend Christmas, new year, her birthday and marry and leave the USA. All of this happening in one month. I do not have any illegal immigrant intentions.

1 hour ago, Greenbaum said:

Yes you can marry and then file the CR-1. Make absolutely sure you keep copies of everything; plane tickets, hotel, taxi, restaurant dinners, wedding stuff EVERYTHING. Take pictures, lots of pictures most of the two of you and family which shows strong ties to the family and approval.

 

Please read the review for the Turkey Embassy here https://www.visajourney.com/reviews/index.php?trim=no&cty=&cnty=Turkey&page=1&dfilter=5&topic

The second topic will give you relief as I think it will answer a lot of questions.

 

Once your CR-1 is issue all prior visas are dead so don't travel on old visas just the new CR-1.

Thank you for your answer.

Can anybody share their opinion/knowledge about: 

Duplicated. Sorry.

Just now, adil-rafa said:

you have B1-B2 visa for US?

if so,  that is reason for the K1 denial

Can you elaborate please?

6 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

there were only 11  K1 visas approved in August 2018 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/MonthlyNIVIssuances/AUGUST 2018 - NIV Issuances by Post and Visa Class.pdf

 

it is another country on the high fraud list

 

http://mypathtocitizenship.com/which-countries-are-on-the-uscis-high-fraud-list/

 

your petition now will be sent back to the US and allowed to expire / you can not appeal this decision

your only recourse is to return to Turkey and marry and file a CR1

many of us have had this happen and we know the hearbreak

be sure the new photos include Turkish family expecially the mother as you need to show proof the family approves

take note that a religious or big age difference will be under strict questions at next interview

good luck to u

Since I still have valid B1-B2 visa, My fiancé, is working full time. I was thinking to visit her for a month starting at Christmas. So, before I return, we can marry and then file CR-1?

2 minutes ago, JFH said:

Only two photos? That’s not good. I understand that you didn’t think about immigration requirements at that stage, who does? But this was the first time you had met the person you felt so strongly about that one of you travelled thousands of miles at great expense to see and you have 2 poor quality photos. There’s no excuse for poor quality photos nowadays. You can just keep taking pics until they look good. And wouldn’t you want more photos? Even just for yourself? Didn’t you want to show your friends and family back home how happy you are together and what a success the visit was? Whenever I visited my husband we took various photos of us together. I kept them on my desk, on my refrigerator, on my phone, in my wallet, everywhere, for the tine we were apart and to keep me going through the separation. I’m not big on photos but I needed to “see” my husband all the time to give me a reason to smile each day. He did the same. 

 

Not surprised it was denied. Two photos. In the era of smartphones that just doesn’t seem possible or believable. 

I get your point. We met when I was there, my trip was just a vacation. Like you said at the time we were together we did not think about photos, it was new and never thought of it. When long distance relationship started we shared a lot of photos with each other and we did FaceTime every 2-3 days. I guess those kept us going.

Just now, Paul & Mallory said:

Unless I am misunderstanding - you've applied for the K1, that application was approved, and the wall you guys have hit came at the Embassy stage. Correct?

 

If so - USCIS and the Embassy are two separate entities. USCIS approved your ability to apply for the K1 Visa - the Embassy determines whether or not you GET the visa. So you can get through the USCIS stage without a RFE, but receive one at the Embassy stage. The Embassy may want more evidence of your time spent together BEFORE filing (so before August 2017). I know you said you guys only had a couple photos and chat logs/etc. Do you have other proof of visits? Boarding passes for airline tickets, etc.? That stuff works too, sometimes without photos together.

You are right. Unfortunately, we kept being patient and postponed our visits. My fiancé was working full time during the year and I did not visit her because we wanted to save money to first months when I go. So, no we did not visit each other until after the interview. But, we provided daily messages, photos shared even a video made for a birthday. Still was not enough I guess. 

Issue we are having is, we are not getting official reason behind their decision. We thought once they return our case back, we deal with USCIS and provide them whatever they need. But this never happened. So, our file is just sitting there. They made their decision and were not able send our case back in 5 months. 

1 minute ago, Paul & Mallory said:

What the previous poster said - you mentioned thinking the initial issue was lack of evidence, such as photos, and then you provided photos from a trip you guys took together after filing. That evidence is fine, but what they are looking for is evidence supporting your time together in person PRIOR to filing (you had to have met at least once within the 2 years prior to filing).

Like I said, we did spent time together when I was in the USA and we had photos which was enough for the requirement for USCIS. If it was not, we would be approved without RFE.

Just now, debbiedoo said:

once they deny it, which is what it sounds like has happened, you have no recourse.

 

is Turkey on the banned list? I'm not sure. If so, there's your problem.

 

Did you meet and have proof of that before you filed (within 2 years of filing). the only trip you mention is 6 months AFTER you filed. If you did meet, what kind of evidence did you submit with the petition?

Me and my fiancé met on December 2016 when I was in the USA. However, we had only 2 photos together and lighting was not that good. We did not care and never thought we would need it. We both are not big on photos. 8 Months later we filed the petition on August 2017. We did not get any RFE. We submit lot of text messages and the two photos. I don't think Turkey is on banned list.

Hello,

We filed a petition for K-1 Visa on August 2017 and we got our NOA2 on February 2018. In 45 days we were able to get our interview at the Embassy. Somehow, officer requested more information (we believe absent of photos caused problem). Following days we shared 90 photos that we sent to each other during our relationship. After few weeks, we finally get an e-mail stating that officer decided to sent our case back to USCIS for "possible revocation". We asked many times for official reasoning behind their decision but they did not provide and kept telling us to contact USCIS when our case is returned to them. My fiancé visited me in August 2018 we had amazing vacation. We sent the Embassy photos of us together at vacation, and asked that can we come in for interview but they said officer made their decision our case is going to sent back. To this date still our case is "Under Review" at Embassy website.

It has been over 5 months since our interview date, still our case is at the Embassy sitting on a desk. When we pointed this out recent weeks, they told us, our case will be returned when administrative process is completed and that we may resubmit our petition since it has already been expired. USCIS and Department of State telling us, until they receive our case back it will not start to expire.

How come a petition can expire without even being processed. I might be wrong but I do not think we will be able to file new petition without withdrawing current one.

We feel like Embassy is not being fair with us. Is there anything we can do in this situation? Can we report this to somewhere like Department of State?

Thank you for your time and help.

Just now, missileman said:

1.  Your K-1 will likely be sent back to USCIS and it will expire there. There will be no appeal.

2.  Your fiance can not enter the US via a B2 visa with the intent to marry, stay, and adjust status.  This is visa fraud, and it will bring very severe consequences.

 

Your options are:

 

1.  Refile K-1......but it would be foolish unless you know why it was denied.

2.  Your fiance can enter the US via the B2 visa, marry you, then LEAVE THE US TO WAIT OUT THE CR-1 PROCESS.

3.  You can marry your fiance in his/her country, then file CR-1.

Thank you. So, he visit we marry, we file CR-1 and he can leave after 5 months and wait for that process? If so, I think this is way to go.

1 minute ago, NuestraUnion said:

It may be extremely difficult for your fiance to enter the US because now there is evidence of immigrant intent. Also, the below quote concerns me....

 

What you are asking is clear fraud. If you can't get a K1 visa then you can't use another visa to enter the US to marry and stay. If your fiance was denied a K1 it may have been for a reason. Immigration is not going to overlook that reason.

 

It may very well be in your fiance's best interest to see if her B1/B2 is still valid before attempting any travel.

We are trying to see what is right to do or not. We are not intending committing any fraud. We love each other and be together. How we can check his visa is valid?

Hello everyone,

Me and my Fiancé applied for K-1 visa, it was approved by USCIS but we got denied at the embassy. Consular officer has determined to send our petition back to USCIS for reconsideration and possible revocation. Our petition is still at the Embassy. We do not have official notification which would give us explanation of the denial. It will be given after our petition is sent to USCIS. We are getting our passport back in a day or two. My Fiancé had valid B1-B2, we assume it will not be revoked as it is not related to K-1 visa and we did not do anything illegal. 

Can my fiancé visit me under B1-B2? Will K-1 Visa information popup at the Point of Entry? If he can pass the entry, can we marry after 4months later and apply for AOS?

This is time sensitive decision. We appreciate your feedback and your time.

Thank you.

8 minutes ago, Roel said:

He can try but no one is ever guaranteed entry. Border officers might let him in without any problems but there is also a chance that someone will think that since your k1 was denied you want to skip the process and have your fiance immigrate on b2 visa. 

 

But no one knows what will happen. 

But he was in the US that is how we met in first place. He stayed 4 months and went back home. This would be his second trip to US?

Thank you for helping.

2 minutes ago, Roel said:

I think they only cancel the b2 visa when the k1 is actually issued. 

But dunno- might depend on your fiance situation. 

 

Address the issue why k1 was denied and apply again. Or get married and apply for cr1 visa. Please don't use the b2 visa to have your fiance immigrate to the US - the officers on the border will see the denied k1 and he might have a harder time entering the US. 

Thank you for the answer. So, he can not visit me for a month and go back? What if he has paid return flight ticket?

Hello, unfortunately, consular officer decided to send our petition for k-1 visa back to USCIS. On my fiancés passport he had B1-B2 valid visa, is this visa will be revoked? Thank you for your help.

Hello everyone, hope you all are doing well. 

Our case is at the Embassy for the last 2 weeks. Some of the documents are taking time obtain, therefore we are still could not schedule the interview. I was wondering how long our case will stay at the Embassy? Is there a timeframe that we have to schedule the interview in? 

5 hours ago, Sibo696 said:

Hello there, 

Does anybody know how to get a Israeli non criminal record for a foreigner? 

Get worried, they need all police documents of which my residential countries. Got stuck on how to get the Israeli police certificate😢 

thanks 

Contact US Embassy in Israel and tell them your situation. Follow their advise. 

It is strange that confirmation page of DS-160 asks you to bring "Evidence of Approved I-129F". Should I bring copy of it?

10 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

Yes, scanned copies should be fine. Make sure you find a way to have the originals ready in case they need them.  At that point generally the embassy will hold the passport while waiting for the additional paperwork but I have seen many get through with scanned copies.  Ultimately it is up to the CO.

Thank you for the information. We have 2 weeks at least, so it is better to present originals if we can.