GREEN/TRAN

HELLO EVERYONE,

I GOT DIVORCED IN BACK IN JULY AND HAVE NO IDEA IF MY EX WILL BE SENT BACK . I SENT A LETTER AMD COPY OF DIVORCED PAPERS AND ALSO A LETTER FROM MYB EXS 60 YEAR OLD HAERT BROKE WIFE TELLING ABOUT ALOT THINGS THAT WENT ON BEFORE SHE RAN AWAY WITH HER HUSBAND AND AFTER. ALLS I GOT GOT BACK WAS A RECIEPT OF CHANGE OF ADRESS FOR SPONSER.LOOKING

LOOKING BACK ON THINGS I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER. I MARRIED A WOMAN WHO LEFT HER HOME TOWN AND HER KIDS BEHIND AND DIVORCED HER HUSBAND IN VIETNAM FOR REALLY NO GOOD REASON . i HAVE MET ANOTHER GIRL AND CAN TOTAL SEE THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. MY FIANCEE NOW HAS STRICK PARENTS AND LIVES AT HOME . SHE DOESNT RUN AROUND AND HAS CALLED MORE TIMES A WEEK THAN MY EX DID IN A 3 YEARS. MY FIANCEE NOW LOVES HER PARENTS AND WANTS TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. SHE HAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL HEART THAN ANYONE I HAVE EVER KNOWN. I LOVE HER VERY MUCH AND HOPE MY PAST WONT PREVENT US FROM BEING TOGETHER.

AS FOR MY EX SHES GOT A NEW LEXUS AND RUNS THE CHINESES CHEF WITH HER BOSS / BF . i TALK TO HER BOSSES DAUGHTER ONLINE SOMETIMES SHE TELLS ME HOW EVERYTHINGS GOING WITH HER MOM AND SISTER AND BROTHER . THERE FATHER HAS NO CONTACT WITH THEM. I JUST WANT TO FORGET

GREEN

there is a multiple filing waiver required for a K-1 petition but not one for a spousal visa

moving to IMBRA forum

where do i get the waiver ?? we arent married yet

Not to knock anyone but whats the petitioners rights in all this. i got divorced before my x got her 10 yr card . And i know she was setting me up and going to play the abuse thing to try to stay in the country. she almost had me falsely arrested but i was let go. But so far as the form I-134 if i am going to be required to honer it shouldnt a petitioner have a chance to tell his side of the things. Ive looked all over the place and find rights for a lie n but none for the ptitiioner. Do we have any??

Hi All,

For those few cases that apply for removing conditions after their divorce, I wanted to share my experience.

I got married in Sep 2005 and received temp green card in Feb 2006. I got divorced in Nov 2007 and applied for AOS in late Jan 2008, receipt dated early Feb, 2008. My biometrics were taken in March 2008. I didn't hear anything from USCIS until early August 2008, at which point I was informed that my case was transferred to my local USCIS branch. In mid-Sep 2008 I got a letter saying that I have an interview in mid-Oct 2008.

The entire interview took about 30 min. I took all the usual docs (insurance, lease, etc). I also took copies of affidavits, including an affidavit from my ex-wife (it was an amicable divorce). Pictures as well - the interviewer wanted to see them, and holiday cards - the interviewer did NOT want to see them.

Some of the questions that were asked: Why did you divorce? Why didn't you know about the problems before you married her? Where did she/ you move after the divorce? What were the dates? Several times he went back to the dates, just to make sure he has the correct. When was the last time you saw your wife? How did you talk to her last - email, phone, in person? What is her latest address that you know of? He the went into significant detailed questions about my ex-wife's new business, which I mentioned. Do you know the license number? Did she register it with the City? With the State? What is the web address? Etc. He did then want my and my wife's W-4s (which I didn't have, only the tax returns). I did give him my current pay stubs to prove I am self-sufficient and he was very happy to see them.

At the very end came the strange part. He looks at his computer and asks - Could anyone have written an letter saying that your marriage is a fraud? Did you acquire enemies over the past several years? After I said I don't think so, he asked two times more - are you sure? could anyone have written it? Then he said "so just you know, all these questions are very pertinent to your file." I still don't know if anyone has written a letter against my marriage, but it sure sounds like it! He then said he needs to do "systems checks" and that he might or might not request extra evidence from me, and he might or might not approve the green card.

I left drained. In about 2 weeks my green card was approved, and I got it 3 weeks after the interview.

Hope this helps. Happy to answer questions.

Hi

Has anyone here got married abroad and divorced and married abroad again??? what waiver do i need ? If you have married abraod 2 times let me know i need to talk to you.

thanks

She's a PERSON not a package. You can't just "send her back"

WORD.

shes not a person shes a #######. and shes a conditional resident. i can send her back

what does she charge??

same as ur wife

How old is ur wife? Post a pic, just curious as to why so many guys pay to sleep with her....

shes 32 her picture is posted

yeah but right now im not working i would like to find a job in wichita where i grew up but i think i need to go to vietnam and relax for a while. anyw3ays i was worried sick about my wife but i guess shes ok. booses wife just called and offered any money for lawyer for divorced or get her out of country if i need

You aren't working and you need financial help from "booses wife" for your divorce, yet, instead of looking for work, you are going to Vietnam to "relax." I don't suppose that "relax" is an euphemism for using prostitutes, is it?

no tom its not. i dont se prostitutes and i dont drink or lookat porn. i have some money saved.i never said i needed any help i said it was offered. #### you tom

also her boss is 57 years old and been married 25 years. dont beleave if you want the number to chineses chef you can call and ask his about it. send me a pm if you do

yeah but right now im not working i would like to find a job in wichita where i grew up but i think i need to go to vietnam and relax for a while. anyw3ays i was worried sick about my wife but i guess shes ok. booses wife just called and offered any money for lawyer for divorced or get her out of country if i need

You aren't working and you need financial help from "booses wife" for your divorce, yet, instead of looking for work, you are going to Vietnam to "relax." I don't suppose that "relax" is an euphemism for using prostitutes, is it?

no tom its not. i dont se prostitutes and i dont drink or lookat porn. i have some money saved.i never said i needed any help i said it was offered. #### you tom

Hey friend

How long you and her been married you can't detransfor her go unless INS

it wil be 2 years july 18th. bosses daughter says she knows for a fct my wife was unfaithel since a few months after she came to usa. She said my wife tells everyone i beat her but no one ever saw any bruises.

yeah but right now im not working i would like to find a job in wichita where i grew up but i think i need to go to vietnam and relax for a while. anyw3ays i was worried sick about my wife but i guess shes ok. booses wife just called and offered any money for lawyer for divorced or get her out of country if i need

Hey friend

How long you and her been married you can't detransfor her go unless INS

it wil be 2 years july 18th. bosses daughter says she knows for a fct my wife was unfaithel since a few months after she came to usa. She said my wife tells everyone i beat her but no one ever saw any bruises.

today i got a phone call from some looking for there dad.My wife quit her job about 3 weeks after we broke up and turns out she didnt quit she was fired by the bosses wife. The bosses daughter called me and told me my wife had sex for money from several people some who had worked there in the past as well as the dishwasher they have now and a few customers.She also told me her dad and my wife have ran off together and hasnt been back to the reserant since my wife was fired after bosses wife found him where my wife staying. bosses daughter said her dad told his mom he loves her and wants to stay with her.So now boss of chinese chef and his wife are getting divorced now too. She says her dad is only a perment resident and have just common law with her mon for the last 25 years. My wife is a conditional resident i have filed divorced but do not have a court date yet. What do i need to do to send her back to vietnam???

Thanks

I just wonder how many cases here on VJ end up like Green/Tran. Divorce in less than 7 years. Just sad. I personally know a person (female) from work. Married in late 2004. As soon as she received her 10-year GC, she immediately filed for divorce, claiming the husband cheated on her and she's had enough of her in-laws.

And now, a few years later moving forward, she's dating a Hispanic co-worker.

For those that understand Vnese, there's a saying "Cuu vat, vat tra on. Cuu Nhan, nhan tra oan."........."Helping an animal, it will appreciate you. Helping a human, s/he will pay you with hatred/retaliation."

Your friend filing for divorce as soon as she got her 10-year GC is a little suspicious, but I wouldn't personally jump to the conclusion that it was a fraudulent relationship from the beginning. Their relationship might have fallen apart long before that, and she was just sticking it out waiting for the GC.

I think it's probably a safe assumption that there are a lot more failed marriages where an immigrant spouse is involved than there are when both spouses are US citizens, but the divorce rate is pretty high in either case. I'm sure intentional fraud is responsible for some of those divorces. Cultural differences are responsible for others. People just plainly being incompatible is responsible for others.

You made a really good point with this statement, though:

"Helping a human, s/he will pay you with hatred/retaliation."

If a US citizen goes into a marriage with the attitude that they are helping their spouse, then the marriage is doomed to fail. People need to feel needed in a relationship, and not like they are indebted to their spouse. This is magnified 100x if the US citizen is constantly reminding his spouse about what a grand thing he/she did by rescuing their spouse from the hell-hole they thought their spouse was previously living in.

To a certain degree, I think spouses from impoverished parts of the world might come with a certain amount of pre-conditioned feeling of indebtedness. I think the US citizen spouse needs to work hard to get this feeling out of them, reminding the immigrant spouse often how much they do to contribute to the relationship, and how they complete their lives.

I just know my wife changed alot after she started working.I saw her more on yahoo than i did after she came here. I think her plans changed alot after she came over. Anyway the good news is i have been talking to very nice girl in Tra Vinh and shes been very good company to me all through this.Her family is great. her dads chatted to me and emailed me and my mom.Her moms knitting me a shirt. I had planned to be in vietnam already but her dad had some requirments i must meet first.

HELLO EVERYONE

IM GOING TO TRA VINH SOON AS MY DIVORCE IS FINAL.M HAS ANYONE EVER BEEN THERE AND IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF FINDING ANY AMERICAN FOOD THERE? I DOUBT IT BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK. THANKS

Like others have stated, don't blame yourself for her actions. It sounds like you have done everything thing to address the problem, so you have tried. Sorry to hear you have to go through this, but think of kids before you come to a decision on what your next course of action will be.

thanks for all your comments and advice ,i hope my wife will get a chance to read these. I know i have a bad temper i need work on it just seems ive always been a doormat or a #######.

thanks everyone

Frank

well, if she got her 3yr card she is most likely stayin, That sucks i mean some people are truley 2 faces So agian people KNOW WHO U ARE GETING MARRIED WITH DONT RUSH THINGS THATS THE BIGEST PROBLEM, EVERYONE THINKS THEIR IN LOVE WITH KNOWING EACH OTHER 1 MONTH COME ON,,,,,,IT CAN TAKE MONTHS BE4 YOUR PARTNER CAN SHOW HIS/HER REAL FACE, I KNOW I CAN SOUND WRONG TO MANY PEOPLE U ARE ALL SAYING U DONT KNOW ME, U DONT KNOW MY SPOUSE, SO WHAT IF WE MEET ONLINE 2WEEKS AGO AND NOW GETIN MARRIED, NO I DONT KNOW, BUT DO U KNOW THEM????? U know how long me and my husband took be4 we got married, b/c i wanted to make sure it was true love and was the right thing that we would be 2gether for ever? LETS just say are son is 5 yrs old now, ive known my husband sence he was probley 9 yrs old lol ( i even rem. him all buger faced lol) we started dating when i was 15 and now im going be 24 and we got married dec,27,07 SO DONT RUSH THINGS PEOPLE BE FOR SURE,ITS ALOT BETTER IN THE LONG RUN

yeah but the thing is i talked to my wife for 2 years everyday before i even went to vietnam 1 time. she just totaly changed when she got here. and changed a little more when the kids came . she got breast implants when she went to vietnam to get the kids . i live in a small town of fat woman and my wife gets asked out from 16 to 60 year olds everyday. then the guys she works with just give money away .

i dont htink shes doing any drugs and i dont t hink she thinks she did anything wrong other then what she did when she called the police. im still not sure if this is my fault or all part of plan of hers.she just says she wants to be friend to all people . but the dish washer would give her 200 dollars just to send her a western union or some thing . and then when she started going gambling on weekends and get 300 dollars handed to her everytime she would go i felt like i lost her . shes would come home at 6 am and give me a100 dollar bill. i liked the money but i felt like a pimp.i didnt like the guys calling and didnt like her going out with them but i wanted her happy and wanted to trust her , i didnt think it was right but she says she didnt do anything wrong and has a right to do what she want. shes stuborn . i dont know what to do

i meant took it out to my truck and hid it . not out it in my truck.

well it was good while it lasted . i felt pretty lucky and happy except for a few thing i didnt agree with that we talked about the other night. first off theres alot of low class paople and druggers that work for her boss at chinese chef but my wife is friends with all of them and they all have her number becoz they are the only vietnamese in town.second she started going gambleing about a month ago on weekeds with her boss and boosses brothers all who own resterants and bosses brother in law and all the worker wich are all men that live in thwe bosses machines shed they have made into room for the workers

. my wife would get all sexy looking and go out and not come home until 6 am in the morning

. she says the boss gives everybody mone when he wins and she would come home with 300 dollars everytime. i work 3rd shift and really wasnt good for our relationship. i wanted her to be happy but i told her i didnt like it. my only nights off and she spend with them. I told her if she wanted anymore to do with them she didnt want me. iI said if i didnt trust her so much i would think she was a #######. she hit kicked me threw things at me and i swear i thought she would kill me. we have aloaded pistil in our house and i thought if she got it she would kill me so i toook it outside and out it in my truck . when i came back i layed down on my bed and later got up and the little girl asked wheres momm? i looked out on the front porch and every cop in town had a shot gun on me. she had called the police and siad i was going to kill someone and was in the house with a gun and her kids.thats when i knew we were done. the cops heard my story and found the gun in the truck unloaded and let me go. but now my wife left. she just got her 3 year green card and her kids just got there papers talking about there bio appointment. will she be able to stay in usa??? could she divorce me and remarry and stay. im so sick of wha she did to me i cant beleave it.

The US Consulate in Ho Chi Minh has denied my wife case and advised that it's on its way back to USCIS. The case was denied due to the following reasons:

1. Pictures shows we've only been together for 2-3 days --- Not true, we gaves them a lot of pictures with different places for my 3 trips to vietnam.

2. Letters without postal envelopes. --- I admited this. We were not prepared and over confident but we do have all the envelopes ready to proof.

3. Her lack of knowledges of my personal information. She did not know my boss name and the project I'm working on. --- Well, my mom has been married to my dad for 40 years and have idea what project he is working on.

4. We provide different married proposal dates --- Not true, the CO misread my timeline letter. My timeline letter clearly provided the same date as when my wife was providing them on her interview.

5. Phone bills not tracable --- What else do they want? I wrote the web url and id/password of the phone company where i obtainted the bill on the first page.

I took 4 trips to Vietnam

Trip 1: 4/07 Met her

Trip 2: 9/07 Visited her

Trip 3: 4/08 Married her

Trip 4: 4/09 Visit her -- received denial letter at the Consulate when came for status

MY QUESTION IS:

from the graetfu

What should I do? i almost bet it bet it was the c/o with beard that looks kinda like jerry garcia from the grateful dead ,that guys a dumb ####. i would would and i did go in and raise hell and refuse to leave tell you talked to a c/o... thats what i did

1. Should I file another petition? Seem faster but doesn't make sense because it's the same petition.

2. Should I wait for the letter from USCIS and file an appeal? I heard it takes 2-3 years for them to decide? Too long!!

3. Should I quit my job and move back to Vietnam to live with her while waiting for the decision? I'm having a great 10 years career with 1 company making over 100K but I can't imagine seeing her only for 3-4 weeks a year for the next 3 years (assuming I'm choosing option 2)

Please help??

Are you positive your petition has been sent back to USCIS??

If not call your senator and get them working on it.

When my fiancee was denied my senator was able to find out exactly why. The next time I made it a daily "job" to collect evidence. Made sure both of us wrote weekly snail mails. Had a AT+T for a long distance carrier. Made a daily short calls for the record with them and used phone cards for the long ones.

Made an additional trip and took LOTS of pictures with her, me, friends and family. Did a few screen prints each month. Had a briefcase full of emails and chat records.

My fiancee didn't speak English that well and there was no doubt something "lost" between the CO and her.

I gave up when the petition was sent back to USCIS. Gave my fiance enough money to open a small store and we went our own ways.

I wish you lots of luck! It's like going to hell and "maybe" making it back.

we just got a rejection notice on both kids aos papers for same reason . page 4 part 5 of i-485 my wife signed her name in the other than the above. so now my question is do we leave my step kids name in the printed and have my wife sign her name in signature ??? or do we have my wife sign her name and print her name and not put the kids name in at all??? thanks

thanks

ihello im doing the aos papers on my step kids and wonderingif i should mail them seperate or together??? would it be to confusing if i mailed them together???

on the k-2 visa is the visa number they want for the I-485 non immigrant visa number the control number or the very long number on the bottom???

thanks

has anyone ever claim kids on income taxes before they got there aos or ssc?on another forum some one said i need to get a form from irs but if they weren't permanent residents yet i couldnt claim them.

i liked phu quoc island it cost about 30 bucks round trip when i was there couple years ago. beautiful beachs

what do we need to do when we file our income tax return and want to claim my wifes kids ? they came last july and we havent filed aos yet so they dont have ssc