rooji

Hello, I am not sure if anyone can help me with this because it is a unique situation. A bit of background, my oldest sister-in-law is officially married to her husband and has unofficially (will get to that in a minute) 2 daughters. The problem is, the husband has a second wife and officially that wife has 2 kids plus my sister-in-law's daughters. Basically when my sister-in-law's biological daughters were born, the husband tricked her and put his other wife's name as the mother so officially as per Pakistan's NADRA system my sister-in-law is not the biological mother and it is the husband's other wife. The problem is this: my mother-in-law wants to invite my sister-in-law to come visit us and we already applied for her, however the kids' dad is stating to apply for the youngest daughter as well to go with my sister-in-law. Now we don't know what to put in the application in terms of how the youngest daughter of my sister-in-law knows us and if she will be traveling with my sister-in-law since by birth certificate she is not the mother. the youngest daughter is a minor too so I am assuming that she will be rejected if we don't put down anyone in terms of mother and if she knows anyone in USA. My sister-in-law wants to come with her biological daughter and the father is giving the permission for the daughter to travel with her mom and will provide the letter too but since we already filled out the mother's application we did not mention that she will be traveling with another person and even if we had we have no way of explaining how she knows the daughter since the daughter is not officially her daughter. She can say step-daughter but even then by law the other wife is alive and living with them. I don't know what to do, will the sister-in-law get the visa and will the daughter get it too? will the officers ask them to provide proof of their relationship? will they be able to pull up her daughter's records if we mention that daughter knows us? Are minors allowed to travel to us on visit visa if they don't know anyone officially but still know us. I don't know what to do at this point. The father is adamant that we apply for the daughter but is not willing to change the birth certificate since his own immigration to canada will be jeopardize. I can provide more information if someone can help me with this. Urooj

Thanks I appreciate that. In my post there were 2 opinions which is why I was not sure of what needed to be done. Plus I searched specific to my question so I was not sure. my mother-in-law came to us based on her daughter's sponsorship so this particular doesn't apply to her but I suppose applying for n-400 no matter how you got your green card have the same rules apply to everyone. thank you for your answer.

I don't know if I am answering it myself but I never heard it and plus someone else posted about it in this post alone. 2 of them are examples from the past. I guess I will submit it and hope for the best. But I have asked my mother-in-law to request for the missing birth certificate for the future.

and FYI: when she applies for her daughters in the future, she will have to provide the birth certificate so if the certificate is not present now, she can do it then. Also after you submit the application, where or how can she submit the birth certificate online without getting an RFE? as far as I know i never heard of getting an RFE for birth on kids if they are not derivative at the moment.

that is rude...you don't need to post here if you cannot say anything nice. sorry for wasting your time by asking questions since more than one person stated opposite of what you said...

I read it but I am getting 2 different answer under my post. someone posted an old post in regards to someone else's N-400 application and adult kids' birth certificate not mattering since they are not derivative of her. So your post makes it even more confusing for me. So unless you have a personal experience with this matter of not sending the birth certificate and still acceptance of application, I am going to keep asking the question because I am getting 2 different answers here.

I know it will matter when she has to apply for her daughters after citizenship but for her own application does it matter if she provides it now since she doesn't have it and it will take time for her to produce it?

Then that means I need to find out if UK consulate allows it.

I believe I know the answer to this but I want to make sure about it. My aunt wants to come visit us for my sister's wedding in March. Her current residency per her ID and passport is her home country, however she will be visiting UK as her son lives there and she wanted to know if she could apply while on visit in UK. I believe she cannot, she has to be in her resident country to apply for US visit visa but I wanted to make sure I tell her the right information. Thanks in advance rooj

Her kids are well above the age of 21 and married so i don't think that matters in this case right? I can file her citizenship without a birth certificate of one of the kids, right?

I am assuming you have had experience with this. I appreciate it. Thank you for the response.

I told her all this that it is needed and she needs to provide it but she insisted on the ID. But thank you for the opinion. I will let her know and tell her to get it done ASAP.

Since she is here and her daughter, whose birth certificate is missing is there and my mother-in-law's application is only there until Nov 15 and then she would have to start the application again since the online one is open for a month. The whole birth certificate issuance or similar documents being issued would take some time. Which is why I wanted to get an expert opinion about if it is okay to submit the ID. She mentioned that daughter in the past for other immigration process but since proof was never needed before until now. Her daughter is not migrating and we are only filing my mother-in-law's N-400 at the moment so does it matter if the birth certificate is missing?

For the f3 category? so isn't it better if one of the daughter's siblings apply for her? such as my husband can apply now rather than us waiting for mother-in-law to become US citizen?

Hello, I am helping my mother-in-law fill her N-400 application online. She is almost finished with it. She has 4 kids and out of the 4 kids, she only has the birth certificate of 3 kids. The eldest kid's birth certificate has been lost. However when her visit visa was applied back in 2013, she used her eldest kid's Pakistani ID as proof. When her i-130 was filed, they used her eldest kid's ID again for proof. now that she is filling out her N-400 application, they are asking for the birth certificate of her kids for proof. Can she use her eldest kid's ID again? If yes, then it will not cause any issue or RFE? If no, then can we skip that? Note: Pakistani ID does not list mother's name, often the ID mentions the father or the husband when they change the ID so there is never a mention of mother's name so her eldest kid's ID does not list her name and neither is her father's name. She has her husband's name on the ID. Thanks for your help Rooj

Thank you for that information. I learned something new today. Do you know how long this process usually takes? the granddaughter is only 1.5 right now so I guess I want to know if it is going to take longer than expected or not.

how would that be possible after my mother in law turns citizen? I mean if she applies for her daughter, would that mean she can apply for her granddaughter and son-in-law as a derivative? i thought there was an age limit...

I know that and that is not my question here and she doesn't have any other son beside my husband, only married daughters. Thanks I appreciate that. I am glad to know this so now I can convince her with more conviction.

Hello, This is more of a personal understanding question. I am helping my mother-in-law fill out her citizenship application since she is not a tech savy person. When the question comes whether someone helped you, I plan to put my name however I am concerned that might not be a good idea? I am not sure if I am right or not but I wanted to know if it will cause her any issue since I am not legally part of any organization or have a law degree or anything related to it. Would I be joining her at her interview or will I be getting a call? so I do not know if I can put my name down under the person who is helping her in her application? Thanks in advance rooj

Got it. Thank you so much! I appreciate it.

thank you to both of you. What happens to the daughter's petition if she is not willing to withdraw the application? When the time comes, will they automatically deny the daughter at the time of the interview?

Hello, I am posting on behalf of my mother-in-law's inquiry about her daughter. She is resident for 5 years at least now. She applied for her unmarried daughter in 2017. Her daughter got married back home in 2019. I advised my mother-in-law to withdraw the i-130 then but she hasn't gotten around to doing it. Now she is due to get her citizenship since she has been in usa for 5 years, someone is telling her not to withdraw her daughter's case since she is due for citizenship and the status will change automatically once she gets her citizenship. My advice to her is that she needs to withdraw her daughter's case since she hasn't applied for citizenship yet and by law her daughter's case is already canceled. So to finish her doubts, can someone tell me I am right and there is no chance of her case being changed after the mother in law's citizenship? Should she withdraw her daughter's case before filling for her citizenship? Thanks in advance rooj

again thank you for that information.

Thank you for that information. Do you know how long is it taking for the AOS to be currently approved and a conditional green card to come? I guess I want to know when she can travel with current situation.

I am asking on behalf of my brother and his now wife. They just recently submitted their AOS documents along with evidence as requested. They did not do parole form i-131 because they didn't know how long the AOS will take and when she would be traveling again. I helped them fill the documents. But the question they have now is that can they still go ahead fill out the I-131 if she has only an idea that she wants to travel the end of the year or something for her sister's wedding in her home country? Is that possible or that document has to be filed with AOS? If they file now, will they have to pay the fees for i-131 or can they submit it as is without the fee? They just recently filed it so they have not even received the receipt notice for the AOS yet. TIA