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I have a doc. cover sheet that I received from some gov. dept., bar code at top, bar code at bottom. There are boxes which I should check on this page of what doc's. are enclosed, unavailable or not applicable. There are 4 parts on this sheet, 1 part is my info. "financial doc's" (AOS, etc.) another part is wife's info. "supporting doc's". Is each of these parts/sections considered to be a packet? To me it is a part/section of the packet, one packet!! Why do they say mail the 2 packets together when on this sheet everything is listed together and there is no mention of separate packets for the 2 parts.

In the supporting documents section, they ask for Petitioners Documents, I am the petitioner, what documents are they asking for?

I just discovered another Document cover sheet and printed it. Now I have 2 completely different cover sheets, both saying this page needs to be on top of packet. Both have the bar code, 1 has boxes that should be checked telling what doc's are in packet or not. The other does not have these boxes but says I MUST RETURN THIS COVER SHEET............ OK, so i'll return both! But both can not be on top!!! These people are idiots, although, when you are able to reach someone, they talk to you as if you are an idiot.

Documents the Applicant Must Submit to the NVC

when I previewed my post, i decided to edit and re-post to eliminate any confusion. I was told I did not have permission to edit MY post.

So, hope you can understand.

Summary Information

http://www.visajourney.com/examples/INS-Form-I-864.pdf

you can see in this example that the sponsor/petitioners address is filled in 3 times. Does his wife already have his address in part 1?

It is obvious that his address goes in part 4. But you can see they have the same address.

In the first section of the I-864 (AOS) Mailing Address, is that for my address or for my wife's address? If it is for her, would that be the address in US or her current address in Russia? I've looked at the example form that has been filled out for a guide, thus my confusion.

I'm in the process of putting together this AOS packet (financial/supporting doc's.), I'm self-employed and don't have W-2 forms. I can prove that I own my business (contracts with my customers), evidence of income (tax returns), is that sufficient?

Also, there is mention of an AOS packet and also a IV packet, both to be mailed at the same time. But then it seems there is only an AOS packet which includes IV packet. Any input on this confusion?

Confusing isn't it? Possibly why the NVC phone line is always busy, because most people are confused about all this!

I see that you have gotten thru your confusion so tell me please, the AOS packet is what I (petitioner) do & the IV packet is what my foreign wife does, correct?

in response to some earlier comments..........

http://cis.org/vaughan/uscis-favors-illegal-alien-applicants-over-americans-and-legal-immigrants

In my post, I was not complaining about illegals, I was complaining about the bureaucracy that brings all this, as I see it, unnecessary work for me and for themselves. Although, when people do things the wrong/illegal way, it does make things more difficult for the people that try to do things the right/legal way. Read into that what you wish. I agree it is necessary to protect this country (US) as best as possible from the various forms of deceit which can be used to enter into this country. But I don't understand all the necessity of some of these procedures & requirements when you have legitimately proven who you are and what you are about. We're talkin' about one little ol' girl from Russian being reunited with her husband. Yeah, I know, suck it up,.... but it's so annoying.

My wife has very good English, and continues to learn. She will not have to have government documents given to her in her language so she can function in the American society. Meaning she will not be a burden to this country. Read into that what you wish. We have been married for approximately 6 years.

Can someone explain to me all these "hoops" ,many are the same "hoops", which have been jumped over/thru again and again, that are put forth by my government? WE ARE MARRIED!! SHE WAS HERE BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT APPROVED HER (AND ME) ALREADY IN THE PAST!!! We recently submitted a petition in August for her to return, IT WAS APPROVED!. Now this info. goes to NVC which seems to require much of the SAME information that has been submitted time and time again, and was in the packet they just received in August. (ex. passport photos, why do they need more goddamn passport photos?) They should have all this information on file from previous applications and visa. (I included case #'s, visa #'s, whatever, from our first application & acceptance in this recent petition for MY WIFE to return.) YES,... I understand the need to update some of our information, but a lot of these requirements seem to be ridiculous and unnecessary. WE ARE MARRIED!!! Where is the logic from the "powers that be", when we have so many illegals in my country that the government caters to? This is absolutely unbelievable! Some politician needs to look into some of these requirements and exercise some commonsense and make logical changes in these requirements.

Any comments will be welcomed.

What statue-of-limitation's?

I found a very old post (2006) about this subject but I want to be up-to-date. My wife is in Russia and now we are in the process of her return to US. She is not a citizen. I am a small business owner and have had some serious loss of income (no fault of my own) which is forcing me to consider to file for bankruptcy. What I read on the old post is that bankruptcy should not effect the return of a spouse, what matters is my income today and if I can support her. My income, at the moment, is enough to provide adequate support for her and myself. And actually, she will possibly find employment quickly and bring additional income to the household. Is this information in the old post still good today?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/1131-would-bankruptcy-effect-a-visa/

I have put off this bankruptcy for almost 2 years but I have recently had more loss of income. This is due to retail corporate thinking by not supporting small business, no fault of my own.

When i filed for the I-129 petition (2008) the instructions required 3 years of tax returns within the affidavit of support but someone in this forum said the most recent year (2007) would be sufficent. I sent only 1 and it was sufficent, we got the visa. Now i am filing for a CR-1 which again requires 3 years of tax returns. Will only 1 (2008) be sufficent for this also?

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What is happening to her is nothing. What do you mean? She is back at her home taking care of her father till he is well enough for her to return. I don't know of any reason why she would not be allowed to return. I guess we apply for the K-3 visa now. It may be faster than the CR-1. We have a return flight mid Feb. but i get this sick feeling that i may have to eat this ticket.

As far as the amnesty goes,.. one reason,... these people are killing the taxes payers. Another reason is general principle,... there should be no amnesty for them, they broke the law. And here we are abiding by the law. Here's a little eye opener which lays it all out better than i can....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

When i look thru this forum for information to help me get my wife back into the USA, I also see ALL these other people that are going thru the headache of understanding this bureaucratic STUFF, the time and expense, I can not help but to think about "Amnesty". You people of all, should be paying very close attention to these politicians in America and their persistance of giving Amnesty to the people that came here illegally and chose not to follow the rules as you and I have done and are doing. Even though the majority of Americans have shown they are opposed to Amnesty certain politicians are constantly trying to sneak something pass the people. PAY ATTENTION! and don't ever let this pending Amnesty go thru.

(My ridiculous "bureaucratic stuff": My now wife was just here on a K-1 but had to return home for an emergency so we have to go thru all this BS again when there is overwhelming evidence that "THEY" had already approved us in August for the K-1. It should be much simplier for her to return to America.)

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It was suggested, prior to our marriage, that if we were married before she left the country for this emergency it would be easier/quicker for her return. So this seemed the thing to do (we were going to do this anyway). There was no time for paperwork for EAP. This new process we must go thru the

K-3 or Cr-1 will be less complicated than the K-1, right? I mean, we have already been under the microscope and passed to acquire the recent K-1.

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My fiancee arrived in the US Oct. 4 on K-1 Visa which expires Jan. 4 2009. After 6 weeks she had an emergency at her home and had to return. We got married before she left. Where do i begin for her to be able to return? K-3? She resides in US now doesn't she?

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How are you expected to be back at your home (A.S.A.P.) because of an emergency when you have to fill out documents, mail documents and wait for a decision and the documents to return to you? The emergency would no longer be an emergency by this time! This is ridiculous and impossible. People do have unexpected reasons to return home. We've already jumped thru all the hoops to get where we are today, Approved, so why is it required to do again because of a family emergency that surfaced Nov. 1st. Surely there is a more reasonable way. Why can i not just fill out the forms, do all that is necessary on my end and mail them to her to take to her Embassy for approval so she can return in Feb.? Why make such a simple & understandable thing so difficult during an unpleasant time?

From what i have found about these forms, as suggested, i-485 & i-131 we have no time for these. Marina will be leaving Sunday 16th for Russia. I have her booked for a return flight in Feb. (hopefully). What can i do NOW that will help with her return as far as any future documents are concerned, if anything. Something that i can give her to take back to the Embassy in Moscow that may help us. Photos of us together here in my town? Forms i can download and should sign. Anything to avoid cost of sending packages to her later in the mail and that can help with the return visa? When she arrived here she brought the packet that she took to the Embassy for her intial interview. She will take this back,.. but what else would be good to have aside from the 2 forms mentioned above? Will it be possible for her to make the return flight that is booked in Feb.?

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My fiancee needs to return home (Russia) because her father has fallen ill and she needs to assist her mother. Mother is not in very good health and unable to do all. Fiancee has been here (usa) with me for a month on K-1 visa which will expire in Jan. What do we do for her to be able to leave and return at a later date (unknown)?

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As I hung-up the phone from speaking to Marina on my way to bed, she is on her way to the Embassy in Moscow for her interview. It is 7:30AM Aug. 14th for her. Although I am told by many, her included, that we should not have any difficulty receiving our K-1 visa, I am very concerned about the possibility of not receiving it. After a somewhat restless night of sleep it is finally 5:00AM and I decide to get out of bed, go to my computer and call her for the results of the interview. Since we are always on the same page,…. within 10 minutes after I wake she calls me. After hearing her voice for 5 seconds I knew… we had success. She was unable to control her excitement of this great news for us.

She waited approximately 4 and a half hours before she was interviewed, which she said took about 20 mins. of many questions. She said the consular officer was pleasant and his final words were “Please take this Visa as a present from me to you & your fiancé on your 2 year anniversary”. The first time we met, via internet, was August 14th 2006.

What a great gift! What a great anniversary!

Soon the life I have known for a very very long time will change. Soon the life Marina has known for a very very long time will change also. We must begin to prepare ourselves mentally for this. It will be different…….

(the USCIS received our first papers around Mid March, i believe it was.)

Church!!,..uhmmm.... I'm reborn!!!

My Mom's address is on all of my documents/mail for past 10 yrs. as my address. What the hell, thought it could be a plus for visa. The writing is on the wall.

I-364 is not an affidavit of support... For a K-1 use the I-134.

Numbers, numbers,.. so many numbers. thanks, i was confused. I-864... I- 134 whatever, i would know what to do when the time comes to be serious. Again Thanks, but i know. I gotta' know or else... I burn.

I thought i had read somewhere that if i was self-employed i needed to show evidence of this, i.e. the corporate tax returns that i mentioned. Perhaps i worded it wrong. Again, more mind-boggling details from our...

Thanks, but i think that some of my questions go unanswered.

As i am now preparing a second/duplicate packet, as the one i sent in March to USCIS which sent it to NVC which sent it to the Embassey in Moscow waiting for the arrival of my girlfriend/fiancee for her interview in August, I have to ask why? Why is it necessary to recreate this packet and mail it to her at her home so she can take it to the Embassey which already has the original packet? I understand the required "new" info. to see that we are still serious about each other since March, 5 or 6 months ago, anything showing that we are still interacting with each other. But i don't understand this duplicate packet of photo's & forms which they already have. Can someone please explain this?

Also, i will inherit my mothers home oneday, can i list this as asset/property on the I-364 "affidavit of support"?

Also, I became self-employed the beginning of 2007, i bought the business i had been working for for many years. The I-364 form is the correct form for me? ALL i have available to me for this form is my personal tax returns and my corporate tax returns of 2007. And the house if possible, mentioned above. Bank account,... what comes in goes out. But this will improve. I am above the required income level by a couple of thousand dollars.

Thanks for replys & advice.