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I am not totally sure about that. She might need to show the Russian passport for traveling abroad Spain.

I am Spaniard and my spouse (American) got the NIE/TIE card as permanent resident (no Schengen) when we lived in Spain and we traveled by plane (domestic flights) without showing his American passport.

Have a look here http://www.policia.es/documentacion/no_comunitarios/tar_concepto.html maybe you can find something (it is in Spanish).

If not, what I would do is to make a copy of the passport previously; go to the police station and try to get an official stamp on the copy ("compulsa" in Spanish) and if they require the passport at the check in counter / boarding gate show the NIE/TIE along the passport copy stamped by the police and maybe the NOA of the American Embassy telling you left the original one there to get a visa

I have checked with Iberia, and you may be correct, they say what you have said, however when we have flown on RyanAir they have asked for her passport also.

I will stick with you opinion, though.

She just needs her NIE (DNI for foreigners in Spain) for domestic flights

Respectfully disagree::

Russian citizens - even if legal residents of Spain, with NIE card - also need to show Russian passport.

If I am wrong, do you have a link that can display what you say.

Thanks

Hi, my wife is Russian and is a legal resident of Spain. Our interview will be in Madrid but we live in the South of Spain. Thus we must fly to Madrid and back.

My question is:: here in Spain even when flying domestically...when you check in for a flight, they ask for her resident's card _AND_ her Russian passport. Being the Embassy will keep her passport and send it to us via courier, how will she be able to check in to our return flight home??

Not sure how to deal with this, can the embassy offer us any kind of document that will certify that they have her passport that will allow her to get on the flight?

There is no way we can drive to Madrid and avoid flying.

Thanks for any help

Hi I was filling for i-130 in January and in February 3 my case status was (my case was receved on 02/03/2016 I just checked it now after almost 5 months it changed to (my correspondence was received and uscis reviewing it )in June 30 we received your correspondence for form i-130 and uscis reviewing it.

I don't know what correspondence thy were received ?and who send correspondence to them ?because me and my wife didn't send any correspondence to them

I would simply call the USCIS, explain your predicament, and see what the issue is.

I sent my I-130 to RapidVisa (who I used to help me through the entire process), they sent our petition in after reviewing it; it was received at the USCIS on May 12th and was immediately assigned to the Potomac Service Center. It was approved on July 6; we are now awaiting notification from the NVC with our case # to begin moving forward toward the interview after we send in our documents and pay our fees. Once again, we send our documents to RapidVisa who reviews them for accuracy and appropriateness...then they send it to the NVC for us.

Don't know if this will help anyone here, but my I-130 Petition that was received on May 12th at the Potomoc Service center was approved yesterday July 6th in less than 2 months.

In hunting down other cases numbers before mine, there are many many that were received on May 12th and before that still have not been approved. Not sure why mine was handled so quickly.

Good luck to all

You say, "I *think* you will be fine. But it may depend on the officer you get to review your papers."

At what stage of the petition are you referring to...the review by the officer at USCIS, or later in the NVC process?

Thanks.

We are about to send in our I-130 Petition, we have just gotten married and noticed the birth city listed on the marriage certificate is different than on her birth certificate.

We live in Spain, she is a legal resident here - I am an American citizen. The city of her birth is Alexeyevka, Russia, but the marriage certificate lists Saratov, Russia. Even though we listed correctly the actual birth city in all the pre-marriage documents, the local government courthouse used Saratov, probably because that is what is listed on her resident card...they probably just used that and didn't even look at our submitted documents. We thought about trying to get a new marriage certificate, but it has already taken us 10 months just to get our approval for marriage which took place on April 29, 2016.

In Spain it takes SO long to get anything done, we are worried if we now go back to the courthouse to try to implement a change of that date, it will either be impossible or take forever.

So...my question, if we leave everything as is and submit our I-130 with the incorrect birth city (her G-325A has her original address where born listed as Alexeyevka)) on the marriage certificate and insert a cover letter saying we know the two cities are different, but offer the reason behind this, with the fact that the Spanish government has told us that it is of no concern as far as they are concerned, does not need changing and is legal as is...would this satisfy the USICS and the NVC/Embassy?

Basically I would say if you have savings in excess of $60,000 your ok, the minimum household size is 2 and the financial requirement for that is $19,912 per year. so 3x that is $59,736.

Ok, thanks, that helps a lot. My monthly soc sec check is almost that yearly $19,912...and my savings is considerably more than the $59K

Number of people counted in your household.

Still not understanding, ok, it's just her and I - how does that translate into dollars??

The amount of money in your savings account must be greater than or equal to 3x the amount listed for your household size in order to count as an asset.

What do you mean by "household size??"

Thanks

Yes, since she is legally resident in Spain she can interview there.

Yes, you can stay in Spain; the only potential issue is the affadavit of support; you will need to either get a co=sponsor or sponsor her on assets.

Hi, thanks for the reply, I have been living here for 8 years with 2 or 3 times a year trips back to the USA. My address in the US is a legal residence, and that is where all my mail goes as well as my IRS filings and all of my bank account addresses.

Affidavit of support, I receive a decent Soc Sec payment monthly and have a very substantial savings account, so cash and support I do not believe will be a problem.

We live in Spain. We're going to apply for a CR1 Visa, I am American, she is Russian but she is a legal resident of Spain and has lived here for 10 years. I have a legal address in the USA. We want to know if I can stay here in Spain during the process? And I assume her interview will take place here in Madrid, rather than her having to go back to Russia, is that correct.

Thanks

Let's turn this around a little, what if the sponsor filing a I-130 (US citizen) is the one living semi-illegally in Spain, meaning he stays here for months on end, then goes back to the US and spends a little time there - then back again. The I-130 contains the Spanish address so that mailings will go to Spain.

It is my understanding the USC does not need any PC from Spain from the USC, only the beneficiary who has the Spanish residency card does.

When filing the 864, the US address is then entered instead of the Spanish one. The mailings after the 864 then go to the US address...is that correct and there should be no problem with "illegality??"

phil09 and NLR,

I have been reading about the K-1 regarding domicile, it seems that that process does not require a proof of domicile included. if I file a K-1 instead of the CR-1, would that simplify things insofar as domicile goes?

And if I do, what happens if I continue to live here and list my foreign address instead of my daughter's?

Thanks again.

Couple questions::

USC living in Spain for about 6 years, with periodic visits back to the US 2 or 3 times a year. Not legal (no job, I am simply retired)...but have a signed rental contract with my spouse for 4 or 5 years. Have a local "padron" (which means I am registered in the city town hall for census purposes etc).

Seems to me most of the "expedited" applicants here have had _legal_ residency in the foreign country. Does the USCIS then take issue then with the fact you have been living abroad "illegally" (do they even ask??). I am retired, and haven't worked (dentist) since I left the US. But I list my US daughter's US address that I have used for EVERYTHING, from Medicare to Soc Sec to credit cards to banks to US phone records to current driver's license etc

If I list my foreign address on the I-130 so that I can receive correspondence from the USCIS here in Spain, and then use my daughter's US address/domicile on the I-864, does that make any difference to the USCIS/NVC, as long as I can demonstrate my intent to live in the US when that time comes?

Also, just what is included in the NOA1/NOA2 packets they send out via snail-mail, is it just notifications or is there something in there you need to physically use for the NVC petition? If I list my Spanish address in the I-130, will the USCIS actually send the hard copies via mail to me here in Spain??

Thank you.

i don't know if anyone actually explained during the thread but often there as been "auto expedited" cases for the people who file abroad. You can search this on the forum. Each time the I-130 process changes we take a new tally on if it's happening or not. We'll have to wait and see for Kansas.

As for your DS-230 - it's no longer ds-230 but is a ds-260 and is for the foreign spouse so the address on there should be abroad. The address on the I-864 can be from the USA, however, don't lie that you live somewhere you don't... The intent to reestablish domicile is fairly universal between embassies but some can be more difficult than others (for instance Montreal is a stickler for domicile because Canada really is right next door to the USA.) However, if you haven't filed the I-130 yet, you have at least 2-4 months, likely closer to 6-8, before you need to really be worried about it. That's lots of time to get the evidence prepared that you need.

This process is long, don't put your cart before the horse.

So, NLR, are you saying that if I put my daughter's address (which is actually my address of record and where I stay when visiting th US - while I am here in Spain and is included on ALL of my government, Medicare, health insurance, bank and credit card profiles) on the I-864 in the Mailing and Residence address parts would be construed as a "lie" by the COF. That better I should put my Spain address there instead?

I understand about the cart and horse, I'm just trying to get all my ducks in a row in my pea-brain before I embark on this process.

Thanks for your attention in responding.

You noted, "Again, I do not know all the details of your current situation, but I think if you sign a lease in the US just prior to your wife's interview in Spain, you would meet USCIS' requirements for re-establishing domicile. If you haven't voted in the past few years, I suggest you do so via absentee ballot in the next elections."

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Don't you think it would be better if I use my daughter's address in the I-864 (rather than find a rental in CH) because ALL my important addresses use hers, for instance my Soc Sec address of record, my Government Medicare, my United Health Medicare Advantage policy, all my banks, my address on my IRS filing for last year (although prior years IRS address of record was in Jupiter FL), I voted absentee ballot (but in the Jupiter address), all my credit cards, I have a Drivers License but it is also from FL not due to expire until Dec 2014. So it's obvious, at least to me, I _DO_ have intent to re-establish my/our domicile in the USA. I also have a US mobile phone that I use when in the USA that is currently on contract and paid (Net10), I have an active internet ph number (Magic Jack) from the Chicago area for years (now used for all my CCs, government contact records etc, still active). My actual living abroad with her has been basically staying a length of time, and then ALWAYS returning to visit family and friends in the US....would be telling the COF the truth, as it really is without any kind of attempt to shade the answers.

Put my daughter's address down, and say I will be staying with her and family until I find a rental flat. One question, does the NVC even have a look at my I-130 at all, or does the USCIS simply approve it and sends only their approval to the NVC? Because if they don't, then there should be no worry that my mailing address on the I-130 is different than what I will put on the I-864.

Also I am reading that putting my Spanish address in the I-130 will kind of "expedite" in some way the process, instead of putting down a US address...have you heard anything like that?

In the I-864 at the beginning it asks for the Principal Immigrant's Mailing Address, I assume this is her current address in Spain, correct?

Then on down the page it asks for Sponsor's Mailing Address as well as the Place of Residence Address...do I use the US address for both of those, or use the Mailing Address here in Spain and the US address for Place of Residence?? Not understanding if they want to make sure I have domicile in the US why they ask for Mailing Address as well as Place of Residence Address.

Similar question, I am a USC & live in Spain with a Russian girlfriend who has legal Spanish residency.I've been here for about 5 years, with trips back to the US 2 or 3 times a year.

We plan on getting married soon, and my interest is when I file the I-130 and it asks for my address, I am planning to put my Spanish mailing address, even though my "official address" (at my daughter's home) is listed with my Soc Sec, Medicare, and all my bank accounts. When I get the I-864 proof of domicile, I plan on putting my daughter's address, even though it is different than the one I put in the I-130 (Spain). The reason I want to put the Spanish address on the I-130 is so that I can receive all the mailings here before we get to the NVC and interview stage. Will this "different address" situation be a red flag? Or does the NVC not really have access or see the I-130 to know what address I put in??

And just exactly what comes in the mailings from the USCIS for NOAs etc, if it is just notifications, I can just put my daughter's address, and not worry that she has to send the letters/packages here to Spain for me to see, especially if I can access the time-lines via the internet. And she can tell me on the phone the content and/or scan them and send them via email.

What kind of issues will I encounter having to prove domicile, having used my daughter's address?

Thanks everyone.

Phil, if you have time please read this thread because it is pretty much what I am planning, but the result is not good. Now I worried about doing it the way we discussed::

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/458131-denied-visa-at-interview/

Of interest::

"Department of State transitions to online immigrant visa application
Starting September 1, 2013, all immigrant visa applicants will apply online using Form DS-260 (Application for Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration). Applicants will also choose their agent online using Form DS-261 (Choice of Address and Agent). Applicants will access both forms on the web at ceac.state.gov.

These forms replace the paper DS-230 and DS-3032. The National Visa Center (NVC) may instruct some applicants who previously submitted Form DS-230 to submit Form DS-260. Only Diversity Visa and Cuban Family Reunification Parole applicants will continue to use the paper forms. If you have questions or feedback about Forms DS-260 and DS-261, contact the NVC at nvcinquiry@state.gov or 603-334-0700."

http://travel.state.gov/visa/questions/news/news_4413.html

Also::

"USCIS Announces New Immigrant Fee

On February 1, 2013, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will begin collecting a new USCIS Immigrant Fee of $165 from most immigrant visa recipients who receive their visas on or after February 1, 2013. (IR-3, IH-3, IR-4, IH-4, SB-1, SI, SQ, and K visa holders will not pay the fee.) Review the News Release and USCIS Immigrant Fee on the USCIS website for more information."

http://travel.state.gov/visa/questions/news/news_4413.html

And

"Implementation of New USCIS Immigrant Fee Feb. 1

New fee allows USCIS to recover the costs of processing immigrant visas after individuals receive their visa packages from the Department of State abroad



WASHINGTON—On Feb. 1, 2013, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) will begin collecting a new USCIS Immigrant Fee of $165 from foreign nationals seeking permanent residence in the United States. This new fee was established in USCIS’s final rule adjusting fees for immigration applications and petitions announced on Sept. 24, 2010.

USCIS has worked closely with the Department of State (DOS) to implement the new fee which allows USCIS to recover the costs of processing immigrant visas in the United States after immigrant visa holders receive their visa packages from DOS. This includes staff time to handle, file and maintain the immigrant visa package, and the cost of producing and delivering the permanent resident card. The implementation of this new fee is further detailed in a Federal Register notice scheduled for publication tomorrow.

In order to simplify and centralize the payment process, applicants will pay online through the USCIS website after they receive their visa package from DOS and before they depart for the United States. DOS will provide applicants with specific information on how to submit payment when they attend their consular interview. The new fee is in addition to fees charged by DOS associated with an individual’s immigrant visa application.

USCIS processes approximately 36,000 immigrant visa packages each month. Prospective adoptive parents whose child will enter the United States under the Orphan or Hague processes are exempt from the new fee.

For more information visit our USCIS Immigrant Fee webpage."

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ad70f58f7529b310VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=68439c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

Wow, that about covers it.

You are indeed a kind, giving soul, where do you get so much patience??

There are other fees I know, for instance the I-130 fee, $420 that must accompany the petition - I assume then I WILL need a check that must be included with the petition?

Are there other fees that must accompany different forms, other than the ones I pay at the Embassy and to the Doctors??

So my thought is now to put my address here in Spain for the I-130 (so as to have all papers until the NVC sent here); when the I-864 arrives I put my daughter's address...and all the interview stuff will be sent here to Irina here in Spain as it normally would even if I have a regular US address for the I-130.

The I-864 and DS-230 will also be sent here to Spain as per my address on the I-130, I assume? And then my US address will solely appear of those two forms 864 and 230.

Ok, here we go, payment. I have 2 checking accounts but I have never gotten any checks printed because I pay EVERYTHING via the internet with credit cards and in paying the credit cards I use my account from my bank to pay them electronically. What to do? I am traveling to the US for a couple weeks, starting on Oct 20...I think I can have my bank send me some checks to my daughter's address, and that will also have THAT address imprinted on them, Then I can send physical checks to the NVC/USCIS from here in Spain. Is there any way to pay electronically?

I think I'm almost out of questions, sorry for being so dense about this, I think my situation is a little different than many here.

Thanks, Phil

Scroll down to the second paragraph:

http://lawandborder.com/issues-for-u-s-citizens-expats-in-filing-the-form-i-130-immigrant-petition-for-alien-relative/

I'd use your daughter's address for the I-864. Have you used her address for your Medicare and IRS correspondence up to now?

Yes, and that is indeed my address of record for Medicare, Soc Sec banks, and my tax filings this year.

So if I do that (use her address) what happens when/if she gets her visa approved and we then enter the US and go to Chapel Hill to live instead of the Chicago area? Will the embassy/government do any checking as to my actual physically being there? And will my daughter and her husband encounter any trouble for allowing me to do this. So far no one in 6 years has EVER checked on my address when I was living here, although my address before her place was in Florida though I wasn't physically there (using a friend's address for banks Medicare Banks etc).

Reading that article and using my daughter's address I really don't have to prove anything as far as domicile goes. Unless they make a deal over the fact that I used my Spanish address for the I-130, and then when I files the I-864 it has changed. problem??

Seems to me if I do that I can pretty much stay here through the entire process, except for a trip to CH to do a rental at the end of the "ordeal."

Yes, because that would be the only address that USCIS has for you.

However, after your file is transferred to the NVC, you will have to file an Affidavit of Support (form ). Then, you'd have to show proof of being domiciled in the US. In my experience, it'll take 7-8 months before you get to that point, once you submit the I-130.

Phil, so...what does it mean when you say "you'd have to show proof of being domiciled in the US"?? Is it possible to use a friend's address??

I guess what I could do is wait for the NVC to send me the I-864, go back to the States and rent a place. How much time at this interval that the NVC notifies me do I have before they expect a reply?

Being that I already live here with her in Spain (not many applicants I think have that luxury), I am trying to minimize the away time.

We're about to make some decisions, as she gets back for her visit to Russia, and we are thinking about simply traveling to Denmark for a nice getaway and get married. The move forward with a CR-1 visa, and try to negotiate our way forward without being apart for much time.

So...if I DO use my abroad address (postal service here is pretty good, just takes a little while to get here), the USCIS and NVC _WILL_ send my mailings here??