MrMadCat

Don't even worry about citizenship.. Enjoy the relief you must feel now, get your life going and do the citizenship thing when you feel like you can really enjoy that process.

You're right, I have plenty of time to prepare. Right now I'm just going to be happy that I'm not longer in constant fear of what might happen.

I still can't believe that I went through without an interview, but I guess whoever was reviewing the case saw that I was genuine and wasn't trying to game the system. Wish I could write a thankyou letter to whomever reviewed it and gave it the thumbs up, but alas that person will be my unknown hero for practically my entire life.

To be on dating site stating you are single when you are not completely not justified on both parts no matter what's the issue in marriage. Only a cheater goes to dating site after being married. If its your home nobody can force you to leave. If you are not happy with your married life and have proof of husband cheating on you, you can file for divorce on this basis. You can notify immigration by mailing letter stating that you found your husband cheating and got to know that he married you only for green card (make sure you have enough strong proofs to prove it). You can't cancel sponsorship at this stage but these things will defenitely harm to his immigration status. Keep all the records of him abusing you or your family.

I strongly believe you can't think of your future with cheater so better take decisions at this stage.

The thing is though, it's a game of both people wanting to do bad things to each other in a way. How can you suggest he's a cheater, when the op is trying to play the game too and get him punished? She has admitted her evidence is not strong against him (on a betrayal/scam level). She doesn't even know what's truly going on. This is a case for marriage counselling or divorce, not "I think our marriage is over now I want to destroy your life because you hurt me". I understand where you are coming from but we don't know the whole story.

Perhaps after marriage he learned that his wife was not whom he expected her to be, and vice versa. Yeah it's not cool to list on a dating site as single, but it ain't cool to try to ruin his new life either. As an immigrant myself I see both people as doing bad behavior and showing signs of inability to handle married life here. Their conversations as described seem more like roommates, and that's coming from both sides. Something ain't right about this and I'm not going to point fingers at the immigrant, only advise the damage that can be caused. And if it backfires, he can make the USC a misery. There's that affidavit of support thing, and if he does manage to fight it and eventually get his conditions removed, he could get some payback if he knew that his "ex" tried to ruin his life. It's a dangerous game to play and I think people should just move on, deal with their marriage/divorce and get on with life.

I just thought I would update.

"On June 27, 2014, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you."

I filed for my I751 waiver in early April, went to biometrics May 2nd. Waited, and got this.

The evidence I had was:

List of contents

· Cover Letter

· Personal Statement

· I-485 Green Card Welcome Letter (with barcode).

· Check made payable to U.S. Department of Homeland Security for $590.

· Form I-751 signed and dated.

· Paper showing additional address.

· Copy of green card. Front and back.

· Copy of British passport biometric page.

· Copy of my birth certificate.

· Copy of marriage certificate.

· Copy of divorce decree.

· Copy of ex-wife drivers license showing name change.

Financial Co-mingling

· 2012 Joint Tax Return Transcript.

· Health insurance card listing myself as a dependent.

· Life insurance policy form filled by wife.

· Credit card in both names where she listed me as an authorized user.

· Joint checking account statements spanning over many months of our marriage.

Additional Information

· 1 affidavit from my mother in law.

· 2 affidavits from mutual friends.

· Photos spanning our marriage together.

· Additional documents.

So no interview, even though we separated at 7 months into the marriage, even though our financial mingling was limited, even though I was in the UK for 4+ months right after getting my conditional green card. All I had was a 2012 tax return, a joint bank account and some other little pieces of info. No cars together, nothing like that. I think her mothers affidavit might have helped a lot, because it did state that her own daughter basically likes to use men, and some not so nice words about how her daughter treated me bad. When a mom talks bad about her own daughter, it doesn't look good (on her kid).

The craziest bit of news I got was finding out from her own mother a few days ago that my ex wife is pregnant with the man she cheated on me with (the man she married like a week after our divorce). That floored me a bit, but I don't feel sorry for him because he knew about me, but decided to pursue something with her anyway. No mater what sob stories she gave him about how much of a monster I am, he still made a decision to get involved in my marriage, based on her lies. None of my business about their life now though, I know, but her mother and I know that she really dislikes kids and has said some really disturbing things, like "If I ever have kids and they disobey me I am going to beat them black and blue". Sad thing is she was serious. Oh well. Anyway, time to move on with my life. I just wish the guy realized that if she cheated on her husband (me) with him, she's going to do the same thing to him, and with a child mixed up in the mess, there is only going to be one victim here.

So what next? I guess citizenship. I'm not sure if the years I have been a conditional resident apply to the 5 or so years, or not. Guess I will do some research into it when I get time. All I know is I must file my taxes every year so far.

I posted this mainly to give hope to everyone out there going through the same thing. Maybe you don't have that much evidence, like me. I avoided the interview entirely and I am so thankful for that, I also got no RFE. If you get all your evidence together properly, it should be ok. My case I believe was quite suspicious due tot he ways the marriage broke down, and if I can do it I know people with stronger evidence can do it.

Good luck everyone!

Edit: Oh ####### I double posted by accident.

Alright, it's all assembled. Going to send it through USPS today since it says to send to the PO Box and fedex don't deliver to PO boxes. I made a bunch of copies of everything. Guess it's going to be a waiting game.

Good luck. Remember to scan and save the only copy in your computer too.

Doing that hehe. I'm also going to make several copies of my whole package tonight before sending, just in case something goes MIA.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it. Thank God!! Only copy I made.

Did you ever get a Driver's license with your marital home as the address on it?

I did not, I got a state ID card though. I don't have it, just paper copies of it, so should I sent that in? they cut it up when I applied for a drivers license in another state.

Hey Madcat, I think your evidence looks pretty good, actually. Do you have any shared lease or proof of living in the same place?

Sadly no, she owned the home before we married, and all bills were in her name. I don't really have proof of living at the same place, other than all the documents I have point to the same address.

This OP was approved for I-751 waiver recently, might give you some ideas on evidence to submit.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/479949-rfe-for-evidence-of-good-faith-marriage-roc-with-divorce-waiver/

I have 8 months of full bank statements on our joint bank account printed (I did that just before she shut the account down), but no car documents or anything like the op, nor was my marriage spanning over several years. Still, that post makes me optimistic. Thank you.

Well I wrote many months ago about filing for my I-751 waiver, and I am finally sending off my package tonight. It took this long because of not being able to come up with the money I needed, plus work/personal reasons.

A little bit of background. My marriage lasted a year before it ended. The facts that I offered marriage counselling and a personal statement from her mom also claiming that I wanted my ex wife and I to go to marriage counselling and she flat out refused, probably look good in my favor, right? The fact she married a week after we divorced and changed her name, as well as married the dude with whom was interfering with our relationship before it broke down. All sorts of things. I wrote this in a personal statement.

Anyhow, due to her being Mrs. Bossy Boots and wanting to dominate the finances during our short marriage, I didn't gain much in that department, which isn't so hot.

Here's my list.

List of contents

· Cover Letter

· Personal Statement

· I-485 Green Card Welcome Letter (with barcode).

· Check made payable to U.S. Department of Homeland Security for $590.

· Form I-751 signed and dated.

· Paper showing additional address.

· Copy of green card. Front and back.

· Copy of British passport biometric page.

· Copy of my birth certificate.

· Copy of marriage certificate.

· Copy of divorce decree.

· Copy of ex-wife drivers license showing name change.

Financial Co-mingling

· 2012 Joint Tax Return Transcript.

· Health insurance card listing myself as a dependent.

· Life insurance policy form filled by wife.

· Credit card in both names where she listed me as an authorized user.

· Joint checking account statements spanning over many months of our marriage.

Additional Information

· 1 affidavit from my mother in law.

· 2 affidavits from mutual friends.

· Photos spanning our marriage together.

· Additional documents.

That's about all I have, but I have a little question. When I fill in the I-751 and it asks for my spouse/ex spouse details, do I enter her name of what it was when we married/filed the I-130, or do I enter what I know it to be now? After divorce? I entered her married name (whilst she was with me and what her name was on the original forms going back to I-130, I-485. Do you think my list is good enough or am I missing anything vital? I have about 25 photos included of a few trips, including our marriage ones, trips to someones marriage, our own trip. I lost all the others, but it's all I've got.

So you are telling me I better file a divorce case sooner than later? I was thinking of abandoning the green card officially and move back to my contry.Will that have effect on my future return?

Jaycali gave some excellent advice. Yes you should pursue a divorce if you wish to ROC. It seems your wife is not interested in this relationship at all anymore, and you will need to be divorced to file a waiver for your ROC if you are filing single. She doesn't seem like she's going to support you through ROC by the sounds of it. If you also feel this relationship/marriage just isn't going to work at all in future, then the only choice you have is to divorce and start building your life on your own. As said, you want to be divorced before your conditional greencard expires, or it could get a bit more complicated.

Ask yourself these questions....

Did you first enter the marriage based on love and it was bona fide?

Is this marriage pretty much over as it stands today?

Do you want to stay in the US and keep building a life for yourself here?

If yes to all 3 questions, then divorce and file a ROC waiver based on divorce.

Look on the bright side, at least you have a new Girlfriend

She treats me with respect, listens to me and is all in all, a great girlfriend.

Dude when U meet a female willing to work & pay for everything

and U stay home play house husband (unless U have small kids)

that's a VERY bad sign of control, manipulating & de-masculating.

Very soon she'll (most) talk down to U, act as if U R lazy, complain

how hard she works, and definitely have someone on the side that

she's looking up to...I say get an atty...don't be around her alone

and don't rub the new sweetie in her face to make her angry.

This is exactly what happened.

It started with the talking down, then she'd call me lazy, then remind me how she's bringing in all the money, and start fights all the time. She never appreciated the stuff I did for her, it was NEVER good enough in her eyes. Real controlling and called me insults all the time, yet when I'd answer back and tell her she's acting like a b****, the world would fall down around her and she would get SO aggressive, because no one could insult her. Couldn't ever tell her to calm down or relax or she'd get go crazy. Wasn't like this at first, but after we were married she changed into someone I didn't recognize, especially near the end. It's now confirmed that the dude she was emotionally messing with when we were together is indeed her new boyfriend. So lame! She was gonna cheat on me no matter what, I believe.. meh...

You were married for 9 months, how long did you live together.

The Girlfriend, is she in the UK or the US?

We lived together until we separated.

Gf is in US.

My brain just isn't working recently. So I'm filling out the form and because I am filing on a waiver, and no longer live at the address, I started overthinking things and confused myself.

On Part 1, Question 16, it asks for the Physical Address and on Question 17 asks for the mailing address. Well, do I put the address I lived at while I AOS, even though I've moved (on question 16) or just put the new address I'm living at now on my own? The one I moved to (I filed an AR-11 or whatever online when I moved to this address in May but didn't get a confirmation or anything...?).

Ok so then I scroll down to Part 1, Question 22. Asks, Have you resident at any other address since you became a permanent resident? (If "Yes," of all addresses and dates.)

So now I'm kinda confused (as I said these are dumb questions so I apologize if it's more simple than I actually think). So if 16 is asking for an address, if I put my current address I moved to after separation and then scroll down to 22, it's basically asking me to put down that same address again on a separate piece of paper, so then I thought, why if they had my new address on Question 16 would they need that. So then I started wondering, what addresses do I put where. My old in 16 or new in 16, and as for 22 do I put my old address and then put my new address in it as well. Obviously I gotta select Yes to 22, since I have resident at another address since... Meh, I hate my brain.

If someone can just break it down to me, I would be really glad.

/dumb questions over

Op...you need comingled money and leases in both your names without this things will not be smooth going...you must have these. This is the best proof for USCIS for proof of bona fide marriage.

Thanks Brian. I have 2012 tax return filed jointly with her. Is this strong evidence of co-mingling, would you say?

The co-mingling thing, and about the property/bills. To clear things up a little more and now that I have more time to sit down, think and reflect on everything in more detail... The problem is that when we married she already had a house, and all utility bills were naturally in her name as she'd been living there. Now looking back I understand why she wouldn't put my name on the house, etc. Because of the refinancing, etc, I think. That's what she meant by it's too expensive, so I totally get that, and the bills well as said they were all in her name. So that pretty much is the reason I don't have much evidence. So it's a little hard since she was, and always wanted to be "the head" of the household, so to speak, and was very controlling.

I have printed out all the statements from our joint bank account (thank god she didn't shut it down yet), and on each statement it has both our names. On some of them it has her maiden name before it was changed to my name, a month or 2 after marriage. I have the debit card still, which ends with the 4 numbers of that of some bills on a statement (on the statement it gives the last 4 digits of the debit card used for purchase) from later the same month I got my green card. Purchases were made up until obviously my flight back to tend to my sick mother and the decline of the marriage, in which after I stopped using our joint account, so nothing after Jan 2013.

I just, I'm not sure what to do about the whole thing regarding not having my name on any property or cars. I didn't drive, had no license, and well everything she acquired before me is what we had.

I have some pictures of us at various events during our marriage, and we were members at an animal shelter that we both volunteered at. In fact this is where the statement came from, a mutual friend who saw us every single week together and always saw us holding hands, things like that.

What do you do when you marry someone who already has a very established life and you're a new immigrant, and you love them but they say they are financially stable and will take care of everything? That I can stay home, cook, etc. Yeah I know it sounds embarrassing I was being a "house husband", but that's what it was to be honest. Then when I found out she was messing around with another guy, and emotionally as well, I just couldn't take it anymore. Now I know I'm probably going to have a hard time, but should I attach a statement from myself explaining the reason there were no joint ownership since she already had all that stuff before we married? Would that be a bad idea or ??

If you don't have proof of committing finances then you won't be able to prove bonafide marriage your problem is bigger than you think.Good luck

Hi I just didn't have lots. Short marriage, and she wouldn't put me on the lease. I asked when we were together and she said she's not willing to do that because it will be too expensive or whatever. I also did not get my SSN or anything like that until a month before my GC arrived, and our marriage broke down after that.

From our marriage though, I have copies of where I am a dependent on her health insurance, we have a joint bank account together, I am an authorized user on one of her credit cards, she added me on her life insurance and I have a picture of us together as a couple at a wedding couple months before we broke up. I am sure she's taken me off life insurance and health insurance, and closing our joint bank account down, but what can I do about that... the point is I have printed copies of all that evidence that we once had, even if she is trying to destroy my chances of having any evidence.

Hi guys, I am finally divorced just over 2 weeks ago and trying to finish my I751 waiver package. It will take a couple weeks more so around a month or so from divorce before I get it sent off. I've been trying to get evidence of my marriage together, and it's been difficult because of leaving to go back home to tend to a sick mother right after I got my greencard. I broke up with my ex wife then. Long story short I have managed to get an affidavit from a mutual friend, and my ex wife promised to make me one during the divorce. She didn't. Now she has been asking for money from me, saying I owe her stuff (after we are divorced...) and that I owe her for the immigration costs... First of all when we got married I said to her, that whatever it costs us we will get through it and get the money back. I said I would support her as a husband, etc and well, I never got that chance. She's bitter over the fact we broke up (she initiated divorce though) and thinks somehow I owe her every penny she ever spent on me. I don't think that's what marriage is about.... especially when I paid thousands of dollars worth of bills the month before our breakup and had only been working for a short time (because I only just got my legal right to work a month before my gc). Anyway all my money went on paying for my mothers funeral costs and still, before then all it went on is bills for us...?! she thinks I owe her thousands of dollars still, doesn't matter how much I have/had (ZERO and struggling to make things right for myself even now). Point is, she's begun the threats again. And this time big ones.

She took 10 dollars from me to pay for a notary for the affidavit, then asked me for 40 more! I said no, it doesn't cost that much and told her where she can get it for 5 dollars, one stamp. I know you don't really need one but I wanted to make sure so she doesn't claim that I forged it or something (that's what she is like) if I used it. As soon as I said no she started saying that she won't let me remove my conditions and will be writing to USCIS and also my girlfriend, and I better enjoy my time here while I have a year left... So now, I am wondering where I go from here. I don't have much financial co-mingling with her because of our marriage breaking apart so quickly. (9 months after marriage we separated).

What are my options from here? I did not enter this marriage for fraud or anything like that. We both suffered a lot of financial issues when we separated, so she should just let go and move on like I am. But no, she has to steal my 10 dollars and then threatens to contact USCIS. Took this too far...dunno what to do.. Just want to move on with my life now but she seems to be wanting to stop me.

Any advice?

Not looking for nothing? Except a green card you mean.

Sounds like you basicly used this person to get a visa and then immediately wanted out of the marriage.

I suspect immigration will view it the same way.

I hardly used my wife to get a greencard. Ever had a parent die and your significant other is out partying and emotionally cheating on you while you visit your dying relative in your home country? Wasn't interested with working on a marriage with someone like that. As for wanting nothing, no I don't want a cent. We separated, the marriage is over, and all I want (and her too) is for both of us to move on. I don't think at all like it sounds like I used her for immigration purposes. It's not like I gave up such a hard life in England to begin with or needed to get away. I had (and I do mean had) a good life until I threw it all away out of love. I lived with my wife every single day, we went out, we volunteered at an animal shelter every week, we did A LOT together. It just did not work out due to being completely incompatible in the end. Thanks for your message though, even if it was a little too opinionated.

As for..

8. It was a no fault divorce and I am looking for nothing, neither is she. Just to go our separate ways

and your response

Not looking for nothing? Except a green card you mean.

I already have a green card... I'm looking for RoC. She also filed the divorce, a no-fault one at that. Don't see the issue here with us both wanting to move on, and then throwing the idea that I used her for a green card based on this?

The most likely reason she's doing that is because she a) has a large tax bill and if you haven't included it in the divorce stuff you could still be liable or b) she got a large return and didn't give you any and thinks that once you see how much it was you realise you got screwed in the divorce. B is the most likely scenario.

Call or go to the IRS and ask for a copy of the transcript. If you call It can be faxed, or if you go in person it can be printed immediately. Her failing to help here is suspicious to me.

**Edit - or c) she committed tax fraud and is worried about you finding out. If she filed using turbotax she may have fudged the numbers to get a bigger return.

Honestly I suggest you get a copy ASAP and find out if she did something bad. Then I would see a tax professional to get it fixed/file separate to separate yourself from it. If she did something bad I would keep evidence of being out of the country at the time she filed so you can show any auditors that (and keep it for the statutory 7 years).

I think the big issue here is that, since our marriage was pretty much over whilst I was back in my home country wrapping up my mothers funeral and stuff, she expected me to stay there and not come back to the US, and now it's biting her in the butt because she never expected me to even want access to that transcript because in her head, I wasn't supposed to come back. Well I did, I came home... now she's worried her bad behavior might be exposed. Think that might be it...

Either way,

I'm definitely going to the IRS and try to get a copy on Wed next week. I have her SSN and name, mine too. Hopefully that should be enough.

She is restricting me access to it saying until she gets the divorce decree, she won't do anything. Kinda ridiculous. So after that I reminded her that they were filed without my knowledge so restricting me access to them is even more questionable, which is true, I had no idea until recently, wasn't even in the country when it was done. I just don't want to be baited into this game playing with her.

Thanks so that would explain why when I entered my SSN nothing came up at all. My friend suggested I go down to the tax office and request it there. I would think if I was used in a joint filing I have certain rights to see something that technically I would be responsible for too. Btw is something a little odd about her filing joint federal and not for state and local? I thought you had to file as joint on all, or not at all. Or am I mistaken?

Well the plot thickens. She's just finally told me she filed federal taxes jointly but not state and local. Not sure what to make of this, but... Assuming she did, how do I go about getting it? I tried online and it didn't work, and obviously I don't live at that address anymore. I can't ask her because I know for a fact she won't hand over any transcripts or anything, because she isn't even willing to write an affidavit for me. She gave me a maybe after she gets the decree, which I know means all she wants is to get it and be off the hook. Which is funny since I never had her on the hook, anyway!!! As soon as we separated I asked not a single thing from her, not a cent, even until this final divorce waiver except that. I've been polite and amicable about the whole thing yet she can't even take the time to help me out. To add to it she said she must have my case number and alien number "if" she is going to do an affidavit. Can't help but feel she has bad intentions as soon as the decree comes through.

So what's my next step, do you guys think? Considering I doubt I will get anything from my "ex".