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get the professional to agree that if he doesn't win the appeal on the first shot, he waives his fee, and second, make sure you get a fee estimate in case you do win.

That's on my discussion list.

No body is perfect, anyone can make a big mistake sometimes not intentionally..

all of you have your own point i guess, but i understand her in her situation,that she share her problem in this site to get some advice not to be judged I guess

Just do what ever you think is best for your case.

Well, hope everything will be ok.

Good luck.

Some people just don't understand how ignorant their words are and unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it. A wise man said, It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. He is very right. Just ignor them.

Thanks for you comment

Even if you apply after 3 years, I would advice to go with a lawyer at your interview. It really helps. I filed a lawsuit against USCIS alone but had a lawyer present when i went to them, that really helped.

I still have my free consultation with an attorny tomorrow so I guess I'll go and talk to him about the issue just to get some legal opinion. Like you said, I have already listed all my questions and I'm sure it will help me alot..I will definitely hire an attorny next time to represent me and help me through the citizenship process. Thanks for your advice.

I think I will wait 3yrs to apply again. My green card wont be expired till 2018 so I dont have anything to lose. Once you learn from your mistake, you won't do it again and you try to make it right. That's what I'm doing with my life and trying live my life to the fullest. Thanks to those who shared their opinion with me.

Seems you have a pattern of misunderstanding, first the return policy and then the instructions on the citizenship application.

Don't misunderstand you dodged a bullet when you didn't get charged with misrep on the citizenship application and the advice here to let a sleeping dog lie.

An attorney has 2 motives, one to keep his BMW running and two the best interest of his client. If his BMW is due for a tune-up his advice might reflect that. He doesn't get the big paycheck if you don't file the appeal, so take any advice in that direction with a grain of salt.

If you misunderstand and file an appeal, be prepared for an expensive dose of the same kind of harsh reality you got here on the forum today.

Good luck.

First off, I couldn't agree more with one of the member's comment here that some people here are too immature and unprofessional. I appreciate honest and even harsh comments ONLY in respectful manners. Personal attacks and ignorant judgement are NOT considered as an advice. That only makes you look like a fool! No matter how educated you might be. So my advice to those is don't waste your time here, posting your ignorant comments on this thread if you have no knowledge of giving an advice/help/etc in a professional and respectful manner. Because I won't waste my time to read your IGNORANT COMMENT anyway.

Seems you have a pattern of misunderstanding, first the return policy and then the instructions on the citizenship application.

Don't misunderstand you dodged a bullet when you didn't get charged with misrep on the citizenship application and the advice here to let a sleeping dog lie.

An attorney has 2 motives, one to keep his BMW running and two the best interest of his client. If his BMW is due for a tune-up his advice might reflect that. He doesn't get the big paycheck if you don't file the appeal, so take any advice in that direction with a grain of salt.

If you misunderstand and file an appeal, be prepared for an expensive dose of the same kind of harsh reality you got here on the forum today.

Good luck.

First off, I couldn't agree more with one of the member's comment here that some people here are too immature and unprofessional. I appreciate honest and even harsh comments ONLY in respectful manners. Personal attacks and ignorant judgement are NOT considered as an advice.

I really think that if you tried to appeal by saying "I didn't know I needed to disclose my past charges, etc" it will just make you look worse. Follow other's advice and wait that three years.

It's a tough situation for an appeal. I agree.

Personally I would just wait the 3 years. Apply again in 3 years including this time all the information as to exactly what the incident entailed, and you should be approved. Appealing now may be an option, but it will take a lot of time and energy and stress AND $650 plus lawyer fees. Personally it just doesn't seem worth it. But maybe you have a specific reason why you really want to be naturalized right now, maybe you have the opportunity to get a job that only citizens can do, I don't know.

You are right. The more I think about it the more I agree with most of you to wait. I think I just paniced when I saw the denial notice. Never thought that would happen because in my heart I knew I told the truth but now I know that I misunderstood the whole question and it backfired me. However, I will talk to my attorny for the final advice and will decide based on his advice.

ya know, some people on this site are soo immature! When somebody asks a question they aren't asking for you to judge them they are asking for your help. SO if you think the person is an idiot than keep it to yourself, YOU can be the bigger person and just not comment on the topic.

Thank you. I was just being honest about telling you all about my situation and just asked for advice. I already admitted that, that was a mistake and I shouldn't be that stupid to do such a thing. But what's done is done. You learn from your mistakes and move on with your life. Some of these users have good points and some comments are just as ignorant as can be and I simply ignore them.

The denial notice and the form to appeal is standard practice, I think they are required to notify you if an appeal is available after you've been denied Immigration benefits, though there's no guarantee that your appeals will be approved. Remember one thing you can indeed appeal but you might get a second denial based on the original reason for your first denial, and this is where things starts to get out of control cause you might have to explain why you decided not to disclosed the incident that made you ineligible in the first place.

That's exactly why I haven't taken any actions yet. I'll talk to my attorny tmrw. Thanks for your comment.

It might be worth a shot. But be very honest on your forms and try to explain your prior misunderstanding with the question. I don't know what your chances are of a successful appeal, but your chances are zero if you don't try. A lawyer can probably give you better advise. Really you are probably lucky they let you off without a misrepresentation charge. Good luck in your decision.

Thanks, Moroccan. I will see my attorny tomorrow. He definitely knows a lot more about these issues and the procedures. I think I will give myself another chance to explain myself and the situation.

I strongly suggest to you to not appeal, and just wait for the next 3 years to give it another shot, you've already miss represented yourself after not disclosing your shoplifting incident, not only will you dig the hole deeper for yourself but you will also bring yourself in front of USCIS infamous radar. You're lucky they did'nt take further action with you for not telling the truth on N400 form. withholding information from USCIS is misrepresentation and these guys has 0 tolerance for that.

I understand your point but I was wondering that once they send you an appeal form with the denial from( which they exactly know for what reason they denied you) does it mean that they are still WILLING to consider your appeal and your explanations? and if i go ahead and file an appeal what are the chances? I don't think that the OI or USCIS give someone a chance to appeal if they know they do NOT want that person as a citizen. Maybe I'm wrong.

That's why I joined this forum to get different perspectives and opinions on this matter.

What you said was wrong and I was correcting it, people are deported for many more reasons other then terrorism. It does not matter if you are married to a US citizen if you do something wrong you can be deported.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

No he brought her to the US legally she came in on a tourist visa. They were given information that this was OK to do even though it was not and it back fired on them. That is NOT terrorism and they were married AND!!!!!!!! she did not enter illegally.

whatever the reason was it's not the same issue in my case. No deportation has been issued for me and I have no reason to be worried about that. Just a denial citizenship which I can apply again in 3 yrs. So none of those that you mentioned are my concerns. Thanks for your comment though!

Actually...... that isn't true. People are deported for MANY more reasons other than terrorism and they are married to US citizens.

A veteran just had his wife deported back to Germany suppose you didn't read that story?

She was an illigal immigrant and I'm not. The guy brought her to the U.S. illegally and I came to U.S with green card. So yes. I know that story.

You have been detained for shoplifting, charged with petty theft and paid the fine. You did not do that because you were accused mistakenly, but because you were guilty as charged. You are a thief.

Yet you did not disclose this, wrongfully assuming the Feds are too stupid to find out within a comprehensive FBI background test.

Tell you what: if I had been the I.O. I would have seen this as a deliberate misrepresentation and declared you a persona non grata for the rest of your natural life. If I were you, I would thank my god for sparing me deportation and keep my mouth shut for another 3 years. If I was the judge getting your complaint on my table, I would order you deported before going to the bathroom.You apparently have no idea how lucky you got.

WOW,first of all you are very rude and mean and your post is very ignorant. You don't need to personally attack someone with your opinions.

I didn't steal( Exchanded my item myself without going to the customer service.) I was 18 and that was very stupid. I didn't hide anything intentionally. I thought since I was NOT arrested then the answer to the question is NO. And I was wrong. Now I wantet to know what are my options. And just for your info, once you are married to a U.S-BORN Citizen, you won't get deported unless some serious homland security issues like terrorisim is the case. Besides if YOU think you are a good example of a good moral character, you better have some respect for someone who's husband is a Physician-Soldier and is putting his life for fighting for YOU and YOUR country.

You need a lawyer, doubt you can re-open it though since they said you can apply again in 3 years.

Along with the notice that they sent me, there is an appeal form as well. I have 30 days to apply for it if I decide to.

Anybody?..

Hi everyone

I have an issue with the department of immigration. I applied for naturalization in may and now they issued me a denial which I wish to appeal. I just want to know what are the chances to win the appeal in my case.

On June 2004 I had petty incident at Ko'hls for $15. I wasnt taken to the police station niether handcuffed or fingerprinted but got a ticket for it, went to the court, paid the fine and they told me the case is dissmised and it will be removed from my records. When I applied for n400 I did not include any document regarding that matter and said no to the question, have you ever been arrested. I think I was totaly misunderstood about the definition of "being arrested". I didn't intentionaly lie. Now my notice says you were arrested and your application is denied because of lack of good moral character. However, it also note that I can apply for citizenship again in three years. I want to file for an appeal but my question is do I have a chance to win an appeal? I am going to hire an attorny for this matter but want to get some opinions from others as well..

It's been 7 years since that incident and I haven't had any legal problem since then/2004. Now i'm married and have a child. I'm a college student and promoted at my job. I am also a military spouse. what are the chances they will consider my appeal? Any input is very appreciated.