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I read form 221 they gave give and they want additional proof of relationship and interview with petitioner (ME)

he can but i dont know if that will be enough. did he take extra evidence to the interview?? did they ask to see the evidence?? when did you last meet??

It's been over a year since we saw each other, And yes I know she did say why this long how is it that we've gone that long without seeing each other. But when you love somebody time really doesn't matter. But seems to them it does. He did planned on coming to the states last year, but his mother passed away. Few months after we started process, and we thought we would wait it out.

UK might not ask for proof of relationship but every case is unique. If it's out of the normal cases that the couple only see each other once every year through 3 years that could easily be the thing, adding that both of you not make enough money(so far that's what OP posted). As far as I know, they mostly concentrate on the affidavits at your embassy.

As far as ongoing relationship goes, skype call/chat logs, phone calls emails, any electronic correspondence you've had in between visiting. When visiting; hotel bills, ATM receipts(USC in your country). If it's possible, sworn statements from people around you having seen you together.

These are only suggestions, I'd wait up gathering it until you know exactly the reasons, as others have said. But keep it in the back of your head so you're ready to respond when needed. I'm sorry the interview didn't go well.

Then he simply needs more verification that there is a bona fide relationship. print out ALL your chat logs, emails, grab your letters, customs forms if gifts were mailed, off our facebook account that has all that evidence of you two as a couple (is your status Engaged?)

This is one of those times when you thought you had enough and you did not. Grab it all, keep proving to them you have all this information until they ask you to stop and they have seen enough to know it is real.

I know thank you!

Same here. My fiancee has not been in the US ever. Now I am freaking out a bit. I am putting our Skype calls together into a word file...I want to send my honey all the proof we can provide

Yes make sure you get all you can. I wish I could had gone with him to the interview, and know exact word to word what was said. Maybe his answers weren't enough for her, from what he said to me I do feel he could probably had answer differently. What's done is done and we have to move on, and keep trying to finally get there.

and the form said what...?

That it was refused but could be overcome with submitting evidence in relationship

London is a very easy consulate to get through if you are an Anglo.

I'm wondering if the woman (who was nasty?) came from a high-fraud country where this kind of practice is very common? You said you were older--how much older?

I will ask the mods to move this to the UK forum as the OP will get better information there. London is unlike high-fraud consulates and folks giving advice based on their own consulate is not necessarily helpful.

NO he is older,I'm the petitioner was born here in the states. He is from England

I wonder if this is the reason... When my husband was at his K-1 interview, (back then he was my fiance, of course) he told them we met in the U.S., but he was also asked if I had been to Finland to visit him. (The answer was yes) They seem to want to know if both people have visited each others countries, maybe that is important to some embassies? Not sure, but I guess it could be possible.

I'm sorry about all this. I hope you find the exact reason your fiance was denied so you can work on fixing the problem.

Thanks you! Yes he has not been here, but when you file it never says you have to visit each other. Just says at least 2 times you've had to met within the time that you file. He had planned on coming last year but his mother passed away. A little over a month that's when we file the petition. His boss was coming to the states, so he had to keep the business going. We thought we would wait out. But seems it wasn't good. I know they have to question people, but seems the interviewer wasn't just getting it. One of the questions was why so long without seeing each other. First response was cause he loved me. Which I think it's a perfect answer why other reason do all of us that are going through this process hang on for so long.... Because we LOVE that person! She made it seem like it's a sin to fall in love with someone from a different country. You can't help whom you fall in love with. But anyways we love each other, and this isn't over for us. Another bump in the road, but we will keep going cause we LOVE each other. Have an attorney and spoken to her she is going to review the 221 they gave him and go from there. Thanks again for your well wishes

he can but i dont know if that will be enough. did he take extra evidence to the interview?? did they ask to see the evidence?? when did you last meet??

He did but took more evidence but they didn't bother to look at them. Handed him the slip that it was refused, but it can be overcome by submitting evidence and said additional proof of relationship. And that it would require additional processing

london doesnt normally ask for proof of ongoing relationship so something has raised a huge red flag... maybe the fact that he has never visited the country he wants to move to.

when was the last time you visited him??

what questions where asked and where they answered correctly??

did you provide all the supporting documents for the co-sponsor... wage slips?? letter from employer... etc??

what exactly does the 221g ask for??

It asks for additional proof of relationship... Can he print out phone calls he has done to me trough skype

Yes, I do know of people who refiled and eventually got through it. My finance and I have made a committment that we will never, ever give up. We have a strong relationship in which we talk twice a day. We could over come this kind of road block if they said we did not have enough evidence of a relationship. I have over 2,000 pages of skype chat log alone for six months plus lots more. If you are really strong, then you can over come it but it is a slightly uphill battle now.

I know thank you... Am not going to give up, cause I love him that much. Will do all I can to get through this

If you can get information from form 221 and what they put there it could help to determine the cause for denial, or if the additional evidence is needed. If they put that visa for immigration purposes it is not a good sign and most likely they will send it back to USCIS with intent to deny. If your fiance can scan the form, hide the personal info and send it to you so you can attach it, we can see what was the reason. It is very unusual with what you described that they will deny it. I believe London allows co-sponsoring so this shouldn't be a problem. What it seems like that your evidence didn't proof on going relationship. You said that you visited him 3 times in 3 years, this could raise a flag as it sounds like not very often, and he never visited you from the country that doesn't require visitor's visa, usually not a good signs.

You might be able to refile and start all over again, but before that you have to understand and eliminate all the red flags.

He read it to me and marked that it can be overcome by submitting evidence if it's based on petition

I'm sorry it didn't go well for you.

Talk to him and find out exactly what went down at the interview, especially what reasons and form that gave him at the end.

We cannot help you unless you provide more details, otherwise we are just playing guessing game here.

I did talk to him as I need to get a hold of attorney to let her know about it. Which like I said they ask about the times we've seen each other. Why he has never been here in the states which he was truthful and said cause of his job didn't make enough to have come to the states. And yes they said about me not making enough. They gave him the form 221 and gave him back his passport

You need to provide details as to how much information they took in to the embassy. Was it one email ? two emails ? one email per week ?

Based on what you tell us, we can help but you must be very specific as to your quantity of evidence. Also, what are the details of your relationship. How did you meet ? A relative introduce you ? There must have been a red flag somewhere and you might know what it is. It just doesn't make sense if you had a real relationship and if he answered all the questions correctly and knew you.

Also, what was your RFE for ? How did you overcome it ?

It was for more evidence which I had sent pictures,emails lots, flight tickets, and itinerary. Second time around I sent my passport stamped, receipts of me being there, and more photos

You are a woman petittioning a man? Are you older ? What is your age primarially ? Support is a key factor.

I'm a woman, he is older than me I'm 32

He said the person that interview him seemed more interested on me not being able to support him, I got co-sponsor. I don't know, they also said about relationship us being together for 3 years how has he been able to hold on for that long his answer was caused he loved me. He has never been to the states, but in this time I've been there 3 times. He said the lady was a bit nasty

Just a question; is your fiance of Indian origin/was born in Pakistan/of Middle Eastern origin?

I have heard a few people in England have trouble because they were of Indian origin/born in Pakistan/of Middle Eastern origin.

No he was born in England, but no Indian origin or any all his family from England

They gave form, and gave him back his passport

Will phone him to get more info and what they asked and said

Thanks on info I will ask him on exact details and go from there

Posting this again as I had posted on wrong forum. My fiancee had interview in London today and was denied. Don't know much details, but he said they said I didn't make enough money. I knew that and for that reason I had a co-sponsor. Also they said not enough proof of our relationship. They had pictures, emails, copies of flight tickets, passport stamped. Don't know what else they would want. Anyone knows what other options do we have? Thank you

Sorry my head is not in the right place... Don't know exact details as my fiancee spoke to me briefly. He was not good as well

Hello everyone my fiance was in London today for interview.... It wasn't good,I'm dying inside. They said I didn't make enough money, which I already knew that is why I had a co-sponsor. They also said not enough proof on relationship.. Don't what they meant with that. There's pictures of us, emails, flight tickets, passport stamped. I don't know!!! Has anyone got a clue of what to do, what other options do we have? Thanks

Thanks again to all for reply. Have taken your answers in consideration. Will mention to him

Thanks everyone for your reply. Just that he is going back north on same day, and wants to know if he will be out before check out time of Hotel which is 12 noon time

My fiance has his interview on the 6th of January @ 9.30... What would be the best time for him to arrive there. I know on Embassy site says to arrive no more than 30 mins. before, but have read of people getting there earlier cause of the queue. Any suggestions on time?

09042-450100 think this is the number for embassy in london. they should be be able to tell you if they have recieved your packet. you will need the benficary passport number. poss case number when calling.

Thanks! Though I believe that number is for within the UK.... Don't know

we sent ours on october 29th and are currently waiting to hear back (although medical was not until a week later)...

He sent forms on 21st of October. He does not have a medical date yet. They said for him to call back till he had interview date. All the best to us all!!