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    Preparing for Interview-Phone records?

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    to Eagle +Eyed,....

    I hope to let you know soon, in the next few days or weeks,... that in fact, an I-129F can be obtained without a phone record.

    I believe the preponderance of other evidence that I presented will be/was sufficient to allow the reviewers to make an appropriate decision, one that I'm hoping/looking for.

    Look at it. Phone records in and of themselves prove nothing, other than how many times you dialed a number and how long you spoke. NOTHING ELSE.

    Helpful? Sure.

    Necessary? Not so sure.

    My phone company only makes available the last 3 months records. What good is that? Some. Little?

    So, I wouldn't freak out, just over that, if the rest of your case is or seems solid.

    I HOPE TO LET YOU KNOW SOON.

    SO, STAY TUNED!

    ________

    p.s. I did this once before and included whatever scant phone records were available. No problems with the visa. But, I didn't think the phone records made or would have broken the case for the visa.

    Thanks.. yes keep us all posted and good luck to you!

    BOOM!!! Yardie Pardie ova here!! Positive vibez ONLY

    in Caribbean

    Posted

    YARDIES!!! :help:

    Help please :blush:

    How many of you were asked for phone records at fiance interviews??

    I have Skype logs for proof. I also get Tel3 credit on my phone and call his quick and hangup before a minute so that he can call me with his credit, being so much cheaper that way... Anyway the Tel3 phone records I can access online which show calls back to back (due to poor connections and one in five calls actually connect to him...) and all calls are under 5 minutes.. My actual phone records would have to be accessed by Net10 and I've gone over this with them before, seems like it's not easily accessible, time consuming and no guarantee to actually get MY OWN RECORDS!! :bonk:

    I posted this the overall k-1 visa forum but thought I'd make it regional and see what you all experienced.

    Thanks in advance!!

    Will issues with change of address affect us?

    in Removing Conditions on Residency General Discussion

    Preparing for Interview-Phone records?

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    I am getting everything gathered for fiance's interview... Currently I'm working on the I-134 and supporting documents. I will be in jamaica Nov. 30th for a week and plan to carry down anything he will need for the interview (though I will be there at the time of the interview to bring whatever else.)

    I have a prepaid phone and access to records seems to be the worst thing...Aparently I have to take a picture of each phone I want records pulled for (I've had two) and get the sim card in the picture, along with the dates for the records and detailed explanation of WHY I want access to my personal phone records... blaaaah... Each person on the phone with my prepaid company (Net10) tells me a little different of how to do it so I'm in doubt with the whole process. One customer rep on the phone said it takes a month to process the request and can only get one month of calls.

    Currently as tangible proof of communication we have Skype calls/web chats from February to present day. The calls are long and sometimes all day long, day after day there's never a day without Skype calls. I also have proofs of Ezetop.com Mobile Top-up online (for fiance to call me international minutes) and there's online receipts of adding credit to my phone as well through Tel3.com. I can access my phone's Tel3 international credit call history by getting records online; however, it's only one or two minute phone calls due to me calling fiance and he just rings back. There's some days where Tel3 service is terrible and doesnt connect properly so my call history shows days where I call 5-10 times in a row to try and get through successfully... I'm paranoid that they'll see that like my fiance doesn't answer and when he does we talk for one minute only!! :wacko: I'm getting overly paranoid now, guys...

    Anyway he'll also have tons of pictures of us together and him meeting my family in August when they traveled to meet him. I have a few Western Union receipts, along with plane tickets and schedules etc.

    So do I pursue the phone records (may not even be possible to access them for more than 30 days prior to today or may be not possible to access at all..) or do I continue on with what we have and skip the phone records?? Thanks in advance!

    JAMAICA police report

    in Caribbean

    Posted

    My fiance got his record from a local station, he just have to clarify foreign record or local record that he does need, then they can do it there locally and he can pick it up there also.it's something new so it did take him quite some time and we had nooo idea what was going on, but finally did get through!

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    The I-864 can't be amended or rescinded. However, someone who submits an I-134, which isn't legally binding, is not required to also submit an I-864 when it comes time to adjust status and get a green card. Your dad could sign an I-134 to help your fiance get a visa. Once he comes to the US and marries you, if you qualify on your own by that time to submit an I-864 as the sole sponsor then you won't need your dad to sign an I-864, and he won't be on the hook for anything.

    Also, AZ is correct. Before tax earnings are what counts. An a 1040 or 1040A form it would be the line that says "total income". On a 1040EZ it would be the line that says "adjusted gross income". This is spelled out in the I-864 instructions.

    Alright, this is all great information/advice.

    Thank you all.

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    That's 20,800... What does this pertain to ?

    I'm answering my own question!!

    Have I been miscalculating... Do you count the actual take-home amount on your pay checks or the money earned before taxes?? :huh:

    I think that's obvious question now that I have it worded out... If I'm counting what I earn a month BEFORE taxes are taken out... i'm only $200 short of the $1,930 needed a month to make the sponsor!!

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    You seem like a very level headed and intelligent woman, but I respectfully have to disagree on your statement above. 125% of the poverty guidelines for 3 is about $23,000 - how on eartth could 3 people possibly exist on that?

    When you first posted about this problem several weeks ago it seemed that your father was not going to be willing to sign, so my question is - what have you done since then to prepare for a contingency plan? If you plan to be in Jamaica on November 30, I advise you to grab a part time job TODAY and you'll have several pay stubs from the new job under your belt to get you over the 125% hump. Now is probably the best time to find a temporary job as most stores are gearing up for the holiday season - so you'll be able to get some extra income and be done with the 2nd job after the interview - this will at least buy you some time to prepare for the AOS income requirement - where an I-864 will be required.

    I'm sorry to say that it really does sound like your parents are standing their ground on this and trying to convince / pressure them to do something they are uncomfortable can damage your relationship with them long term...

    "Well here I am 4 weeks later and NOA2 approved... yet NOW is the time my dad and mom want to speak up against their signatures on the I-134 and I-864. An argument lasted quite some time tonight and now I'm sitting here unsure of how to feel or what to say really..."

    Yes - it's 4 weeks later, but I believe that NOW is not when your parents spoke up against co-sponsoring - it was 4 weeks ago, and it seemed THEN that your dad had made his decision not to sign...

    I've really thought about going the part time job route for awhile actually... I speculate on how much it really would matter though, being a job I'd get say, in December and would work a few months until we file the I-864, would the officials even care to see paystubs on such a job that has lasted such a short time and possibly even temporary? WOuldn't they say it'd have to be a longer past history of working there and plans to stay there in the future to keep up the the 1,930 a month needed to be a sponsor? A part time job could easily bring in an extra $530 a month for me to make it to that $1,930 mark but my question is will they care to see temporary/short lived job experience, and would that count for sufficient sponsor salary?

    With regards to my dad signing... He is understanding more by this morning how the two forms differ. The I-134 being more of a proof and not the legal binding form. That's the form he's much more comfortable with. Now, the I-864 he's questioning, and I totally understand that. It's a huge thing to ask- I get that for sure!! Though I would do it in a heartbeat for my own child, I understand they're at different point in their life than am I so it may be easier for me to just say that! :whistle:

    The issue with getting a second job has always been with my mom. My son goes to day care full time Mon-Fri but my mom picks him up in the evenings as I am off work late, after daycare hours close. She complains enough already and in September I was working two jobs, which only lasted three weeks due to her saying it was too much to ask of her.... watching my son, "babysitting" as she calls it. So, there's that roadblock also, which may be easily overcome with the notion that it's temporary and not a permanent schedule, I don't really know. What I do know is I'll be spending my mornings before work this week searching for a job part time that would bring in $530 extra a month- which is only a littler over $132 a week- should be easy, but again, there's the daycare issue right now... Side note, daycare lady is losing her house and in a month we may have no daycare at all... :bonk: Been searching for somewhere else for the lil man to go but it's taking longer than expected!

    So now I'm curious... If I make the $1,930 a month starting December, then January and possibly February when fiance may be here... Will those 3 months be suffient to be a sponsor alone? Also, the I-864 is done at the time of the green card application, correct?

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    It is just over $10 an hour.

    Most people do not use co sponsors.

    Co-sponsors do not have to be parents.

    With making just over ten an hour is supposed to be above the poverty line by 125%? Maybe for 2 people in the household? I've checked the site at it was $23,163 for the year and $1,930 for the month. I'd have to take home much more than I am biweekly- taxes do take out a lot each two weeks..

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    You parents are probably at or nearly at the end of their intended working lives. They may have enough saved to provide for themselves and some amount of emergencies. But most parent that are old enough to be grandparents are looking forward to the time when they won't work anymore. Now you have come and asked them to co sign for something. They are worried that this may affect their ability to retire comfortably or even retire at all. Like most parents they have probably been told stories about immigrants from 3rd world places taking advantage of their spouses and their sponsors. What is you near future potential for increasing your earnings ? What does your spouse intend on doing here ? Have you sat down and tried to budget a life on what you make ? I know some parts of the country are cheaper than others but no way could you live well in southern California at 125%

    This is very true- my dad stated many times about the want to retire in 15 years and be able to be well off in that way...

    As far as increasing my earnings, the job I'm at has a commission check on the 15th of every month that has potenial to be huge... I just started at this job in October, having left a job with more annual salary but too much drive time and overnights which I was trying to get away from. :wacko:

    Fiance is willing to try anything for work, with the hope of driving truck. There's a few Mexican restaurants in the area I live and have a few connections that may hire him as bus boy or something simple to start out with.

    And yes I've budgeted my life. Everything is tight tight tight, with no room for extra spending otherwise it's on the credit card. My salary pisses the hell out of me, yes, due to 2 year schooling degree and ten bucks an hour to show for... However, I can honestly say that we're living just fine with having extra money to things not needed for survival- my fiance and I can talk for hours on the phone with enough money be paying that bill- EXPENSIVE!!

    Jobs where I'm living at pay less per hour but with an apartment rent under $600 a month I can work with that. Money has never been something that has stressed me so, there was always a way to pinch pennies and make whatever I wanted happen to work... Now that it's not just an issue of saving but actually saving isn't enough, I'm in a whole different land with the rule on earnings for the visa... where earnings are black and white and it's either you make "enough" or don't. I can save all the money left each month and have more than someone who may make more than I do, but I plan where I put my money. Now all of that is put aside and doesn't matter what is saved from what isn't... It's how much I make per hour, per paycheck...

    I got your PM and answered your question, but just for anyone else who might want the same information:

    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86988.pdf

    9 FAM 40.41 N4.6-3 Use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support (page 15):

    Because INA 212(a)(4)(C
    ) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the Act, for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support, has been reduced considerably. Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 will be beneficial.
    This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864.
    Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below.

    THANKS!! :thumbs:

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    No child has the right to expect let alone demand anything from their parents once they have hit adulthood. If your parents offer then fine, if they don't then also fine. They have worked hard and have earned the right to enjoy the rewards of their hard work in any manner they please and they shouldn't feel pressured into giving one cent to their children. I am the parent of adult children and they each get very different access to the fruits of my labor, all the way from No way to me investing in their starting a business. However I would never sign an affidavit of support for any of them. If they aren't at a point where they are making the money to care for a family they aren't at the point where they should be uprooting someone from their home country and bringing them to a strange country. Your parents probably feel about the same way.

    Yes understandable (though I've never demanded... but okk...)... however honestly the 125% above poverty line for 3 people in a household seems high, in my opinion. I know people making half that with more than just one kid and they do get along just fine. I have absolutely no intention of asking for any money from them-ever. Even the wedding is on me. I guess I'm looking at this differently... I can see it as a parent perspective but more than anything I'm seeing it as word given as a Yes months ago, now it's changing and I don't fully understand why because nothing else has changed... and on top of that, I don't fully understand how to best describe it to them. They're getting all kinds of information and I'm no expert on either one of the forms or the legal issues that can stem from them...

    I-134 Affidavit of Support- Obligations of Co Signer??

    in K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures

    Posted

    Well here I am 4 weeks later and NOA2 approved... yet NOW is the time my dad and mom want to speak up against their signatures on the I-134 and I-864. An argument lasted quite some time tonight and now I'm sitting here unsure of how to feel or what to say really...

    :(

    My dad says he'll be calling immigration lawyers tomorrow to ask advice if he should sign.

    My mom says a Jamaican man with 10 years of schooling (didn't finish the last 2) won't be able to find work in the U.S.

    My dad says again that he doesn't want to lose his life savings over the chance of me "changing my mind" or what the F*** ever he's talking about... They both know I've never EVER planned on marrying, things have changed and I've fallen in love... Now I'm singing a tune to marriage and they're questioning everything.

    I wish I could say I make enough for the guidelines. I have a son, so the head count is 3 (myself, son, finance). I am moving into a new apt this Saturday and work 40 hours a week at a steady desk job... Doing good, I'd say with 2 year schooling degree to show for.

    My mom says again that they have the right to feel this is a crazy question for me to even THINK about asking them... Basically I'm rude and inconsiderate to bring these papers before them and explain the process, explain how honestly I need their signature.

    My dad is always believing negatives in life come and positive is hard to find. My mom is cynical and just never really has cared much for me. Sooo now we're sitting here, when I should be so happy to have FINALLY received the NOA2 and trying not to really lose it because I don't know what the hell I do from here.

    I will be in Jamaica Nov. 30th and want to have all the updated documents brought with me, including I-134. We have a month to figure out what the decision is and then get all the proofs and papers for it! :bonk: I'm gonna have a meltdown. Any words of advice, knowledge... anything is much appreciated.

    Also, I'm assuming I should be the sponsor and my parents should be filing as co-sponsors?

    How do you explain to your parents that MILLIONS of people have their parents, friends, families sign these documents???? And their lives aren't ruined over it.

    Basically I feel like they don't care how much I'm telling them this marriage is forever... they're still cynical and hold on to the what-ifs and how will it affect US? :wacko:

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