Bush's itchy finger for Iran

[no name 1]

Bush scolds Congress, talks Iran and Iraq

President says a new intelligence report on Iran provides 'a warning signal'.

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Tuesday that the international community should continue to pressure Iran on its nuclear programs, saying Tehran remains dangerous despite a new intelligence report finding it halted its development of a nuclear bomb.

"I view this report as a warning signal that they had the program, they halted the program," Bush said. "The reason why it's a warning signal is they could restart it."

Bush spoke one day after a new national intelligence estimate found that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in the fall of 2003, largely because of international scrutiny and pressure.

That finding is in stark contrast to the comparable intelligence estimate of just two years ago, when U.S. intelligence agencies believed Tehran was determined to develop a nuclear weapons capability and was continuing its weapons development program.

It is also stood in marked contrast to Bush's rhetoric on Iran. At his last news conference on Oct. 17, for instance, he said that people "interested in avoiding World War III" should be working to prevent Iran from having the knowledge needed to make a nuclear weapon.

Bush said Tuesday that he only learned of the new intelligence assessment last week. But he portrayed it as valuable ammunition against Tehran, not as a reason to lessen diplomatic pressure.

‘Nothing's changed’

"To me, the NIE (National Intelligence Estimate) provides an opportunity for us to rally the international community -- to continue to rally the community -- to pressure the Iranian regime to suspend its program," the president said. "What's to say they couldn't start another covert nuclear weapons program."

He also asserted that the report means "nothing's changed," focusing on the previous existence of a weapons program and not addressing the discrepancy between his rhetoric and the disclosure that weapons program has been frozen for four years.

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Bush said he is not troubled about his standing, about perhaps facing a credibility gap with the American people. "No, I'm feeling pretty spirited -- pretty good about life," Bush said.

"I have said Iran is dangerous, and the NIE doesn't do anything to change my opinion about the danger Iran poses to the world."

In Kabul, Afghanistan, Defense Secretary Robert Gates reinforced the U.S. position that the new U.S. intelligence assessment shows that Tehran remains a possible threat. He said it shows that Iran has had a nuclear weapons program and that as long as the country continues with its uranium enrichment activities, Iran could always renew its weapons program.

The U.S. intelligence assessment "validated the administration's strategy of bringing diplomatic and economic efforts to bear on Iran," Gates said Tuesday, speaking at a news conference with Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai.

First in nearly 7 weeks

Bush called the news conference, his first in nearly seven weeks, to intensify pressure on lawmakers amid disputes over spending and the Iraq war. Taking advantage of his veto power and the largest bully pulpit in town, Bush regularly scolds Congress as a way to stay relevant and frame the debate as his presidency winds down.

Democrats counter that Bush is more interested in making statements than genuinely trying to negotiate some common ground with them.

Specifically, Bush again on Tuesday challenged Congress to send him overdue spending bills; to approve his latest war funding bill without conditions; to pass a temporary to fix to the alternative minimum tax so millions of taxpayers don't get hit with tax increases; and to extend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

"Congress still has a lot to do," Bush said. "It doesn't have very much time to do it."

On another matter, Bush was asked about a rape victim in Saudi Arabia who was sentenced to prison and 200 lashes for being alone with a man not related to her -- a violation of the kingdom's strict segregation of the sexes. Saudi Arabia has faced enormous international criticism about the sentencing.

"My first thoughts were these," Bush said. "What happens if this happens to my daughter? How would I react? And I would have been -- I'd of been very emotional, of course. I'd have been angry at those who committed the crime. And I'd be angry at a state that didn't support the victim."

Bush, however, said he has not made his views known directly to Saudi King Abdullah, an ally. But he added: "He knows our position loud and clear."

The president said the U.S. economy is strong, :lol: though he acknowledged that the housing crisis has become a "headwind." He said administration officials are working on the issue, but he is wary of bailing out lenders. "We shouldn't say, 'OK, you made a lousy loan so we're going to go ahead and subsidize you.' "

Asked about the 2008 election, Bush steered himself back out of commenting on politics. "I practiced some punditry in the past -- I'm not going to any further."

On Iran, Bush said the report's finding would not prompt him to take a U.S. military option against Tehran off the table.

"The best diplomacy -- effective diplomacy -- is one in which all options are on the table," he said.

The president also said that the world would agree with his message that Iran shouldn't be let off the hook yet.

In fact, Europeans said the new information strengthens their argument for negotiations with Tehran, but they also said that sanctions are still an option to compel Iran to be fully transparent about its nuclear program.

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

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Edited December 4, 2007 by devilette

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Dubbya can't even spell the word, diplomacy, let alone pronounce it. But he likes drums and rattles.

[GaryC 7]

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

Glossed over that part huh?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Basically, Steve failed to notice the "coincidence" of Iran's halt being almost simultaneous with rotten-mohajir A.Q. Khan being revealed. The halt was due to Iran not being able to get more KRL-design centrifuges (and the subsequent reduction of enrichment capabilities). The later date is basically a function of existing equipment.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

That's right. F#ck diplomacy.

[no name 1]

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

Glossed over that part huh?

And WWIII could happen in February 08 or November 2010. 'Could' is most deffo not the same as 'has', is it?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Devilette, you also missed the fact that all of Iran's centrifuges are of KRL-design and manufacture. With A.Q. Khan's morals (none discernible), another possiblity gets introduced--that of Iran PURCHASING a nuke (copy of Chinese design).

[GaryC 7]

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

Glossed over that part huh?

And WWIII could happen in February 08 or November 2010. 'Could' is most deffo not the same as 'has', is it?

Could as in, if they desired to do so. You want to bet your life that they don't desire a bomb?

[GaryC 7]

Devilette, you also missed the fact that all of Iran's centrifuges are of KRL-design and manufacture. With A.Q. Khan's morals (none discernible), another possiblity gets introduced--that of Iran PURCHASING a nuke (copy of Chinese design).

Thats the most likely way they will do it. Buy one and copy it using the uranium that they are now enriching. I hope the Bush haters don't let their uncontrolled hatred for Bush cloud their judgment for a real threat. Just because they hate Bush does not mean that everything he says is wrong.

[no name 1]

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

Glossed over that part huh?

And WWIII could happen in February 08 or November 2010. 'Could' is most deffo not the same as 'has', is it?

Could as in, if they desired to do so. You want to bet your life that they don't desire a bomb?

The current hoolpa was that they already had a bomb.

[GaryC 7]

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

Glossed over that part huh?

And WWIII could happen in February 08 or November 2010. 'Could' is most deffo not the same as 'has', is it?

Could as in, if they desired to do so. You want to bet your life that they don't desire a bomb?

The current hoolpa was that they already had a bomb.

Bullsh!t. No one, including Bush, ever said that they have a bomb right now. The desire is to prevent them from getting one.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

European officials insisted that the international community should not walk away from years of talks with an often defiant Tehran that is openly enriching uranium for uncertain ends. The report said Iran could still build a nuclear bomb by 2010-2015.

Glossed over that part huh?

And WWIII could happen in February 08 or November 2010. 'Could' is most deffo not the same as 'has', is it?

Could as in, if they desired to do so. You want to bet your life that they don't desire a bomb?

The current hoolpa was that they already had a bomb.

Bullsh!t. No one, including Bush, ever said that they have a bomb right now. The desire is to prevent them from getting one.

Gary's correct on that.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

That's right. F#ck diplomacy.

Amen brother, amen....

[one...two...tree 2,762]

That's right. F#ck diplomacy.

Amen brother, amen....

Political Science - Randy Newman

No one likes us-I don't know why

We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try

But all around, even our old friends put us down

Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?

No, they're spiteful and they're hateful

They don't respect us-so let's surprise them

We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old

Africa is far too hot

And Canada's too cold

And South America stole our name

Let's drop the big one

There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia

Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo

We'll build an All American amusement park there

They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paris

More room for you and more room for me

And every city the whole world round

Will just be another American town

Oh, how peaceful it will be

We'll set everybody free

You'll wear a Japanese kimono

And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow

So let's drop the big one now

Let's drop the big one now

[no name 1]

My bad.

They were not continuing to make a bomb (despite UN obligations), from 2003-onwards.