IR2 Visa

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, gawjusgal14 said:

@Hank I made appointments for the kids' passport application tomorrow at a nearby USPS facility, hopefully everything turns out well. I already printed the application form and have our documents ready.  I am  bringing my US passport, and certificate, kids birth certificate, their passport with the immigrant visa stamp  and also prepared some photocopies, checks for payment. I had to wait for their SSA card/SSN to arrive because it was needed on the passport application. I had trouble with their SSA  card though because their name was incomplete. 

I received it yesterday and their names were incomplete. FYI My kids have really long names  😣 eg:

Anna Patricia Karenina - first name 

Mendoza-middle name

Lopez-last name

 

Upon receipt her SSA card reads:

Lopez, Anna Patrici

 

 

 

Do I still need to have it corrected?I know that the last name and first FIRST name is correct and I was thinking that the reason for the incomplete (spelling) name was because of the character limit and I was wondering if I should nor there is a need for me to go to SSA and have it corrected? I was contemplating if I should do it before their passport appointment in the morning or right after..  I am still hesitant because I know that once they get their US passport and officially become USC I would need to go to the nearby SSA office and inform them that the kids are now USC. What shall I do? What can you suggest? 

 

Thank you in advance...😉

Very possible the name issue is because of limited character spaces.  You may want to call SSA to ask on this to verify.    Looks like first name is limited to 20 characters, middle and last name limited to 22 characters ..  could be slightly less.   (I counted the spacing on the SS-5)

 

Passport has character limitation also, I believe those are limited to 35 characters (for each; first, middle, last  from what I counted)

 

 

[gawjusgal14 3]

7 hours ago, Hank_ said:

Very possible the name issue is because of limited character spaces.  You may want to call SSA to ask on this to verify.    Looks like first name is limited to 20 characters, middle and last name limited to 22 characters ..  could be slightly less.   (I counted the spacing on the SS-5)

 

Passport has character limitation also, I believe those are limited to 35 characters (for each; first, middle, last  from what I counted)

 

 

thank you @Hank..I will do that now.

PS: passport application done..waiting for them to arrive in a couple of weeks. Hopefully everything turns out well. Thank you for all your inputs..really appreciate it.  

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, gawjusgal14 said:

thank you @Hank..I will do that now.

PS: passport application done..waiting for them to arrive in a couple of weeks. Hopefully everything turns out well. Thank you for all your inputs..really appreciate it.  

My wife got her U.S. passport in about 4 weeks when she applied.

 

 

[gawjusgal14 3]

On 9/25/2018 at 5:50 PM, Hank_ said:

My wife got her U.S. passport in about 4 weeks when she applied.

 

 

Thanks @Hank...waiting game for us and hopefully we will have it in 4 weeks. 😊

[gawjusgal14 3]

On 9/28/2018 at 11:26 AM, gawjusgal14 said:

Thanks @Hank...waiting game for us and hopefully we will have it in 4 weeks. 😊

Hello @Hank was able to get my kids passport last 18th of October. It came with the letter that says they should send their green card to change their status. The IO told me that their green card would be mailed to us but I never received any. Now it’s the 20th and I received a letter from the USCIS saying that they should pay the $220 for the immigrant fee. What should I do? Help please.

[Hank_ 9,174]

6 minutes ago, gawjusgal14 said:

Hello @Hank was able to get my kids passport last 18th of October. It came with the letter that says they should send their green card to change their status. The IO told me that their green card would be mailed to us but I never received any. Now it’s the 20th and I received a letter from the USCIS saying that they should pay the $220 for the immigrant fee. What should I do? Help please.

Ah you didn't pay the ELIS fee to USCIS?   You have to pay the fee for each of your kids or USCIS will not produce nor mail their green cards for you to surrender.      Ya it is necessary.    

 

https://www.uscis.gov/forms/how-pay-uscis-immigrant-fee

[gawjusgal14 3]

9 hours ago, Hank_ said:

Ah you didn't pay the ELIS fee to USCIS?   You have to pay the fee for each of your kids or USCIS will not produce nor mail their green cards for you to surrender.      Ya it is necessary.    

 

https://www.uscis.gov/forms/how-pay-uscis-immigrant-fee

@Hank I know that but I already have their US passports. Do I still need to get their green cards now that they are USC?!?

[Hank_ 9,174]

12 hours ago, gawjusgal14 said:

@Hank I know that but I already have their US passports. Do I still need to get their green cards now that they are USC?!?

 

From my previous post  :      Ya it is necessary.   

 

True your kids citizenship is automatic, AFTER they enter the country to become LPR (Legal Permanent Residents .. green card holders)  ... the green card is the evidence of them becoming LPR... then they legally become citizens, and surrender their green cards.    

 

Get it done!!

Edited October 21, 2018 by Hank_

[gawjusgal14 3]

Isn’t the Immigrant Visa stamped on their passport a proof too?!? I am getting confused because I filed my IR-2 petition for them here in the US and they got interviewed at USEM. All along I thought I already paid for their green cards when I paid their application fee from NVC ($120 for the Affidavit of Support and $325 for the Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee). When they arrived the IO told me that their green cards would be mailed to our home address so all along I thought it was already paid for.  

I needed your two cents because I feel line it will be a waste of money to pay $220 and then surrender it since they do not have a need for it anymore. I want to know if it will be a good idea not to get it anymore since they were already issued their US passports and are US Citizens already. 

Thanks in advance.

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, gawjusgal14 said:

Isn’t the Immigrant Visa stamped on their passport a proof too?!? I am getting confused because I filed my IR-2 petition for them here in the US and they got interviewed at USEM. All along I thought I already paid for their green cards when I paid their application fee from NVC ($120 for the Affidavit of Support and $325 for the Immigrant Visa Application Processing Fee). When they arrived the IO told me that their green cards would be mailed to our home address so all along I thought it was already paid for.  

I needed your two cents because I feel line it will be a waste of money to pay $220 and then surrender it since they do not have a need for it anymore. I want to know if it will be a good idea not to get it anymore since they were already issued their US passports and are US Citizens already. 

Thanks in advance.

Yes the I-551 stamp is a "green card".  But you can not surrender their Philippines passports.      You need the physical green cards .. as USCIS has already asked for them.

 

The fees paid at NVC do not pay for the green card, this is the ELIS fee.   

 

You already know this as you were notified by USCIS regarding paying the ELIS fee and then when the green cards arrive - surrender them.    

 

IT IS THE PROCESS....  Get it done.

 

 

Citizenship by naturalization has a process and requirements .. thus conditional.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2018 by Hank_

[gawjusgal14 3]

22 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

Yes the I-551 stamp is a "green card".  But you can not surrender their Philippines passports.      You need the physical green cards .. as USCIS has already asked for them.

 

The fees paid at NVC do not pay for the green card, this is the ELIS fee.   

 

You already know this as you were notified by USCIS regarding paying the ELIS fee and then when the green cards arrive - surrender them.    

 

IT IS THE PROCESS....  Get it done.

 

 

Citizenship by naturalization has a process and requirements .. thus conditional.

 

 

 

 

I have been reading here that some parents with minor kids who came to the US thru IR-2 Visa Petition decided to get a US passport right after their kids were admitted and never paid for the green card. I understand that it is a process and I am just wanting to save $$$ because I do not see the need for the physical green card because the I-551 stamp on their Philippine Passport is valid and they came and was admitted to the US in a legal way, and now that they are USC and having their US passports on hand, I personally feel like there is no need for the green card anymore. I am sorry if I sound like I am being stingy or something I was just trying to be practical you know. 

@Hank Do you think my children would get in trouble for not paying their ELIS fee and not surrendering their GC to USCIS? Are you saying that even if they were issued US passports they aren't still considered USC?!?!

FYI: They did not get their citizenship thru Naturalization but thru Acquisition.

They automatically acquired US citizenship and did not go through Naturalization. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by gawjusgal14

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 minute ago, gawjusgal14 said:

I have been reading here that some parents with minor kids who came to the US thru IR-2 Visa Petition decided to get a US passport right after their kids were admitted and never paid for the green card. I understand that it is a process and I am just wanting to save $$$ because I do not see the need for the physical green card because the I-551 stamp on their Philippine Passport is valid and they came and was admitted to the US in a legal way, and now that they are USC and having their US passports on hand, I personally feel like there is no need for the green card anymore. I am sorry if I sound like I am being stingy or something I was just trying to be practical you know. 

@Hank Do you think my children would get in trouble for not paying their ELIS fee and not surrendering their GC to USCIS? Are you saying that even if they were issued US passports they aren't still considered USC?!?!

FYI: They did not get their citizenship thru Naturalization but thru Acquisition.

They automatically acquired US citizenship and did not go through Naturalization. 

You are a naturalized citizen?   You are how they acquired their citizenship .. and yes it is automatic, because of YOU.  Still it is naturalization .. they were not born of USC parents.

 

You don't want to pay the ELIS fee and do not want to surrender the green cards .. then I suggest you talk to USCIS regarding this.

 

Hope all goes well.

 

 

[gawjusgal14 3]

1 hour ago, Hank_ said:

You are a naturalized citizen?   You are how they acquired their citizenship .. and yes it is automatic, because of YOU.  Still it is naturalization .. they were not born of USC parents.

 

You don't want to pay the ELIS fee and do not want to surrender the green cards .. then I suggest you talk to USCIS regarding this.

 

Hope all goes well.

 

 

@HankJust talked to USCIS they said my kids are USC and there is no rush for the need of the green card. They just said that if I wanted to apply for N-600 I would need a copy of their green card for that and then that is the time I decide if I want to pay, but for now my kids are safe and their US citizenship is not subject for approval nor on hold/pending just because I did not pay for the green card. 

[Hank_ 9,174]

2 minutes ago, gawjusgal14 said:

@HankJust talked to USCIS they said my kids are USC and there is no rush for the need of the green card. They just said that if I wanted to apply for N-600 I would need a copy of their green card for that and then that is the time I decide if I want to pay, but for now my kids are safe and their US citizenship is not subject for approval nor on hold/pending just because I did not pay for the green card. 

Well that is good news for you.

 

Hearing that makes me wonder about the letter you received from USCIS ... sort of a "why bother sending it". 

 

You, or your kids will not need the N-600 as that is for applying for their own Naturalization Certificate .. they have U.S. passports  < That is all the evidence that is needed to prove U.S. citizenship.     

 

Thanks for the update.  This will help others that come behind you.   Truly do appreciate.

[gawjusgal14 3]

12 hours ago, Hank_ said:

Well that is good news for you.

 

Hearing that makes me wonder about the letter you received from USCIS ... sort of a "why bother sending it". 

 

You, or your kids will not need the N-600 as that is for applying for their own Naturalization Certificate .. they have U.S. passports  < That is all the evidence that is needed to prove U.S. citizenship.     

 

Thanks for the update.  This will help others that come behind you.   Truly do appreciate.

@Hank I was also confused and they rvrn referred me to a higher ranking officer ?     ( according to them) to address my wuery. They said that if I do not have the US passports yet then I have to pay and then once green card has been delivered to me I will have to surrender it, so i told them that it was stated online that I can apply for a US passport for my minor kids without the physical green card, just the     I-551 on their foreign passport and he said that is correct. 

At first he said that the passport application cannot be processed unless there is a green card but i told him that it was clearly stated online on the travel.state.gov site that I can apply for US passport without the green card so he retracted his previous statement. Then he asked me if I have the US passports already and I said yes. I told him that I do not see the need to pay for the Immigrant Fee to get the card because it is considered invalid and asked if I will get in trouble for not paying. I told him it was not practical and even said that what if I cannot pay for it. I asked and anticipated the worst case scenario for the benefit of others because I have read stories like my case. He said I need not worry because there is no need for the immigrant fee to be paid asap especially in the case of my kids who are now USC. He then suggested that I just go pay it when I want to apply for the N-600 for my kids because he said by the time I decide to apply for N-600 their I-551 is expired, (upon checking though should I decide to apply for N-600, their I-551 would suffice)and I would really need the physical green card during the  application for N-600, (but I do not really feel the need for it right now, maybe in the future I guess?!) he even apologized that there is no fee waiver for the Immigrant Fee  unlike N-600.